Elimination of calendar choice is lam...

Elimination of calendar choice is lamentable

There are 12 comments on the The Reporter story from May 13, 2008, titled Elimination of calendar choice is lamentable. In it, The Reporter reports that:

It's a sad day in the Vacaville Unified School District, and not because of state budget woes.

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Dave

Vacaville, CA

#1 May 13, 2008
If the parents of children in the year around schedule want to keep that system, lobby to get the whole district on the year around schedule. If the problem in the superintendent's office is management of different systems, get them to consolidate into a single system - the year around schedule. Trying to get any govenment entity to run on two different tracks is a fiscal nightmare. Get it on either one track or the other.

Since: Mar 08

Clarksburg, CA

#2 May 13, 2008
Families with elementary school kids plus jr. high and/or high school students will find it easier to have everyone on the same schedule, right? And it will save the school district a lot of money to have everyone on the same schedule. As it is, there always has to be staff working because in a sense, the school district never really has a vacation.

I think year-round kids have a lot of "down time" just before each block of vacation days starts, where the class doesn't do much work. Then when school starts again they review and review before they get started on new material.

Traditional year kids get more steady learning, even with the long summer weeks, if the kids read during the summer. Sign up for the Library's Summer Reading Program. Prizes and fun, plus weekly parties.
Cry Me a River

San Francisco, CA

#3 May 14, 2008
Hey, Melanie Richardson, it's time you learn that the world doesn't revolve around you and your Browns Valley/Cooper elitist brethren.
mean people suck

United States

#4 May 14, 2008
Cry Me a River wrote:
Hey, Melanie Richardson, it's time you learn that the world doesn't revolve around you and your Browns Valley/Cooper elitist brethren.
Oh, you ARE angry!
Rush from Vacaville

Milpitas, CA

#5 May 14, 2008
Do any of you actually know what you're talking about? Have you actually had or have children in the YR system? We have been fighting to keep the YR program for 3 years now and the superintendant is getting his way -finally- by going through a back door. Those of us who have been involved in the "discussions" for the last 3 years are very aware of the "real" reasons the superintendant wants this scheduling. It is NOT because it is better for the kids. He has NEVER shown us "real" proof that it is because it costs the system too much money. The parents of Browns Valley and Cooper have NEVER been so presumptuous as to try to get EVERYONE in Vacaville on one schedule. We would NEVER try to FORCE our choice of YR on their children. Those families have every right to have their kids in the system of their "choice." Yes, we feel that the YR system is beneficial to those who are lucky enough to go through that system. Yes, it would be more convenient for those of us to have our younger and older children on one schedule, but we are smart enough to know, and the testing scores have proved, that children in the YR system fair better. I know my children have certainly benefited. People have purchased homes in these areas BECAUSE of the "choice" of YR versus "traditional" scheduling. It is so easy for those of you who have read Ms. Richardson's letter to attack her with your opinions. I think her letter was spot on and very well written. Not once did she try to convince anyone to change the whole system or try to convince those in the traditional system that they are wrong in their choice. Angry? Yes. I am a bit angry...
cooper parent

Fairfield, CA

#6 May 14, 2008
Rush from Vacaville wrote:
Do any of you actually know what you're talking about? Have you actually had or have children in the YR system? We have been fighting to keep the YR program for 3 years now and the superintendant is getting his way -finally- by going through a back door. Those of us who have been involved in the "discussions" for the last 3 years are very aware of the "real" reasons the superintendant wants this scheduling. It is NOT because it is better for the kids. He has NEVER shown us "real" proof that it is because it costs the system too much money. The parents of Browns Valley and Cooper have NEVER been so presumptuous as to try to get EVERYONE in Vacaville on one schedule. We would NEVER try to FORCE our choice of YR on their children. Those families have every right to have their kids in the system of their "choice." Yes, we feel that the YR system is beneficial to those who are lucky enough to go through that system. Yes, it would be more convenient for those of us to have our younger and older children on one schedule, but we are smart enough to know, and the testing scores have proved, that children in the YR system fair better. I know my children have certainly benefited. People have purchased homes in these areas BECAUSE of the "choice" of YR versus "traditional" scheduling. It is so easy for those of you who have read Ms. Richardson's letter to attack her with your opinions. I think her letter was spot on and very well written. Not once did she try to convince anyone to change the whole system or try to convince those in the traditional system that they are wrong in their choice. Angry? Yes. I am a bit angry...
Test scores are higher at Cooper and Browns Valley because those children come MOSTLY from upper-middle class families. Those parents are highly involved with their children's education, and they come to school fed, prepared and motivated to learn. That is the key. Test scores are not about calendar. Cooper and Browns Valley have great teachers and programs, as do all of Vacaville's elementary schools. The one element that is different for those two schools is the number of "good" families sending their kids there.
That said, I have no opinion or preference of school calendar. Their are benefits with both. There are drawbacks with both.
Rush from Vacaville

Milpitas, CA

#7 May 14, 2008
Cry Me a River wrote:
Hey, Melanie Richardson, it's time you learn that the world doesn't revolve around you and your Browns Valley/Cooper elitist brethren.
Let me guess? You're a parent from one of Vacaville's schools who are on the "traditional" calender? I am so tired of your attitude toward those who go to Browns Valley or Cooper schools? What did we "actually" EVER do to you?
Rush from Vacaville

Milpitas, CA

#8 May 14, 2008
cooper parent wrote:
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Test scores are higher at Cooper and Browns Valley because those children come MOSTLY from upper-middle class families. Those parents are highly involved with their children's education, and they come to school fed, prepared and motivated to learn. That is the key. Test scores are not about calendar. Cooper and Browns Valley have great teachers and programs, as do all of Vacaville's elementary schools. The one element that is different for those two schools is the number of "good" families sending their kids there.
That said, I have no opinion or preference of school calendar. Their are benefits with both. There are drawbacks with both.
And, so there should be a choice for both.
Anthony

United States

#9 May 14, 2008
Bad bad superintendent for pushing his agenda. He's not as concerned with education above all else like the noble teachers union who put their salaries above all else. How come I don't see anyone commenting on their greed? Are you afraid if you don't back the teachers in every way they'll take it out on your kid?

It took two to make this tango but only the super is the big bad wolf.

Since: Mar 08

Clarksburg, CA

#11 May 14, 2008
Vacaville schools used to be on the traditional schedule... all of them... and there was a big fuss about any of them going year-round. The superintendent of schools here finally got the School Board to do the year 'round thing and then we had it.

Now we are doing away with it and people are fussing again. It's all a matter of what you get used to, I guess. Personally, I don't like YR because for low-performing kids, the frequent vacations give them more chances to forget what they knew.
Ben

Pleasanton, CA

#12 May 14, 2008
Well said.
Anthony wrote:
Bad bad superintendent for pushing his agenda. He's not as concerned with education above all else like the noble teachers union who put their salaries above all else. How come I don't see anyone commenting on their greed? Are you afraid if you don't back the teachers in every way they'll take it out on your kid?
It took two to make this tango but only the super is the big bad wolf.
Cry Me a River

United States

#13 May 14, 2008
Rush from Vacaville wrote:
BLAH BLAH BLAH
Don't like it? Go out and start a charter school.

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