Parents voice their concerns

Parents voice their concerns

There are 118 comments on the The Reporter story from Oct 23, 2009, titled Parents voice their concerns. In it, The Reporter reports that:

A Browns Valley Elementary School first-grader who died Sunday has tested positive for the H1N1 virus, prompting a four-day dismissal of students at the school.

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concerned vacaville mom

Vacaville, CA

#1 Oct 23, 2009
My son does not attend Browns Valley School or the High school that has closed for disinfecting. He attends Cooper. My son is in week 3 of illness (flu) The first week was fall break, the second week I let him attend on that Fri. because his fever was gone, he then went to school on this past Monday as well, then Tuesday I pulled him from school when the school nurse called to say that he was coughing and becoming weak. I took him to the doctor that day....yes he was recovering from the flu but "SWINE" was never mentioned, he also has wheezing in his lungs. The Doctor said he could return tomorrow (fri.) if no fever was present. NOW I am scared to death that he may catch something else. I think I may wait til Monday to send him back. My prayers go out to that little girls family.
celticwitch

Vacaville, CA

#2 Oct 23, 2009
First off, my prayers too go to the family who lost their daughter and to the families of Browns Valley kids and staff.
My son attends Cooper. I just read the Reporter's latest story on this. I have a few questions:
1. Will it take the death of another child before the district decides parents need to know that H1N1 is making the rounds at another school? Because, regardless of all prevention IT WILL go thru all our schools.
2. Aycocks final line in the article concerning the days the school is closed not being made up at the end of the school year: school's (in referenance to Brown's Valley) average daily attendance would not be harmed. WHO CARES??!!!!!! If a school has to be closed for a couple of days or weeks if nothing else than to give parents and kids peace of mind, does anyone truely believe that the thought racing across every parents mind at that time will be whether or not the daily attendance record would be harmed?!
3. I have seen a few things that I do not agree with that Cooper Admin and/or the distict have pushed thru or swept under the carpet, but due to Aycocks own words in an interview with a newscrew that the district had been in touch with the Health Dept. since 8:30 a.m. Monday, I am sick to my stomach trying to reason out why if the possibility was there then, and it was important enough for him to send out two nights worth of phone calls to parents, why wasn't Brown's Valley closed sooner?
4. I don't care how much policy has changed within the district, I want and need the district to start proving the a child in their care is more important than the good old dollar, reputations, and politics.
Homeschooling is looking better and better.
Tara

Vacaville, CA

#3 Oct 23, 2009
God bless the family. My prayers are with you.
Attendee

Vallejo, CA

#4 Oct 23, 2009
celticwitch wrote:
1. Will it take the death of another child before the district decides parents need to know that H1N1 is making the rounds at another school? Because, regardless of all prevention IT WILL go thru all our schools.
2.(in referenance to Brown's Valley) average daily attendance would not be harmed. WHO CARES??!!!!!! If a school has to be closed for a couple of days or weeks if nothing else than to give parents and kids peace of mind, does anyone truely believe that the thought racing across every parents mind at that time will be whether or not the daily attendance record would be harmed?!
3. why wasn't Brown's Valley closed sooner?
4. I don't care how much policy has changed within the district, I want and need the district to start proving the a child in their care is more important than the good old dollar, reputations, and politics.
Homeschooling is looking better and better.
I was present for the School Board Meeting Last night and there was a lot of good information presented by the Health Officials. Many of the quotes from them, and Aycock were derived from that session. That meeting will be rebroadcast on Sunday night and answers many of the questions you have so it might be worth watching if you can.
H1N1 is likely present througout our community. The little girl's death was tragic and and likely was not caused by H1N1 alone; but more likely was caused by an underlying condition (i.e. asthma or someting else) that was exacerbated by the Flu's course of pathology. That is what is waiting to be determined. The H1N1 virus is very short lived and doesn't stick around long on surfaces. I think the one girl's passing is enough for all of us to be sadly aware of te virus' presence, if we weren't already by the media surrounding it for months.
Aycocks statement regarding the extra days was a direct response to a question put to him from a Brown's Valley parent. Out of context it seems callous. Ironically the parent was frustrated with Aycock's response because the parent felt the days should be added back in to the year.
Why Brown's Valley wasn't closed earlier is the million dollar question. It probably could have been. Honestly any infection caused by little Lexi would have occurred last week, but it could have prevented a further spread. The closure was connected to the increased absenteeism which was being monitored. When the County Health officials and Aycock saw it increase, they followed CDC policy and closed the school. I agree with you that it should have probably been closed Tuesday.
As a parent of a student in the district I am concerned. I just really have a hard time believing any decision was being driven financially. Even if you feel that is how Aycock operates, the decision was made in collaboration with the County Health Officials who would have easily overrode Aycock should they feel he wasn't acting responsibly. I am not saying this to support either Aycock or the County Officials (who also have children in different districts) but are doctor's with a responsibility to protect the public. I would accept that the decision was driven by lack of understanding or was delayed because it was too bureaucratic, but I am not yet so cynical as to say it was financially driven. In fact in this case the financial incentive was exactly aligned with the public good, oddly enough. The more the virus spreads, the more attendance drops shich is what impacts revenues. I would stick with poor processes and analysis paralysis.
Vacaville

Oakland, CA

#5 Oct 23, 2009
He is damned if he did close earlier, not damned that he has closed now for 4 days. All of you need to get some common sense as they are doing everything they can do in this situation.

Give the school district and principals a break and pray for the family of the child that died.
Christine

San Francisco, CA

#6 Oct 23, 2009
My 14yo daughter attends Will C Wood and my 10yo son attends Cooper. When my daughter came down with a 102 temp Sunday morning and became suddenly ill, swine flu was the furthest thing from my mind. I took her into the pediatrician Monday who said 'flu' and just to keep her home with naps, cooling baths, lots of water, Ibuprophen/Tylonal. My son, "healthy", continued attending Cooper until Wed morn when he awoke with 103 temp. Called the pediatrician who said NOT to bring him in, that "various forms of swine flu and many other illnesses were sweeping through the community" and that they were so overrun, their office was no longer testing routinely for H1N1. I canceled my work for the week and stayed home to tend the kids and get their homework. My son's Cooper teacher says there are 7 students out with the flu. I asked a substitute teacher about her Cooper kindergarten class who said their were 9 students out of 24 missing. My neighbor with two kids (Wood and Cooper) also have "the flu." The neighbor 5 doors down said a parent in her son's classroom told the teacher and Cooper principal Mr. Robinson that her child "had H1N1." I met with Mr. R after school yesterday to learn the school cannot close unless ordered to, the County will not order closure unless positive tests are run at the doctors and county level. As my pediatrician stated she was not running H1N1 tests, this seems a chicken-and-egg scenario. Robinson stated that the reality is that all Cooper students have probably already been in direct contact with H1N1, that some parents are sending sick kids to school (medicated with Ibuprophen to keep the fever down) and they are sending sick kids home every day. He says the virus cannot last on desks more than 3 hours so every day the classroom automatically starts fresh with no cleaning. I inquired about not having a note as doc did not see my son and Robinson said the school is very understanding, requests we file for Independent Study if the child is absent 5 days or more, requests we NOT send feverish/vomiting/coughing children to class--keep them home to recover and prevent the spread to others, and work with teachers to keep students up-to-date on classwork. Both my kids will be out through the week. My son is now projectile vomiting with 103 temp but my daughter is finally on the mend, just tired and weak. Clearly, the ilnness is NOT just limited to Brown's Valley. It is a community problem.

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#7 Oct 23, 2009
Vacaville wrote:
He is damned if he did close earlier, not damned that he has closed now for 4 days. All of you need to get some common sense as they are doing everything they can do in this situation.
Give the school district and principals a break and pray for the family of the child that died.
Who are "they?"
Christine

San Francisco, CA

#8 Oct 23, 2009
Not sure why I am labeled above "from Oakland CA" as I am a longtime Vacaville resident.--Christine
Christine

San Francisco, CA

#9 Oct 23, 2009
Sorry, one more thing: Robinson said, while the typical rule is 'don't sent kids to school if they have had a fever in the past 24 hours' however, during this flu crisis, he advised not to send children to school post flu until they can go 48 hours without a fever UNmedicated. My son just got out of bed: high fever, chills, says 'his hair hurts'(scalp), coughing, sore throat, cheeks pink, lots of peeing but no diarhea and "feels yucky all over." His stomach does not hurt but I think the times he vomited it was due to hard coughing. Worst is the terrible headache.--Christine
all about the benjamins

Sacramento, CA

#10 Oct 23, 2009
It is all about funding. Schools are under enormous pressure to keep attendance up, hence they are very hesitant to close. They "might" get a break from the state, but that isn't sure. When they have to make cuts next year, no one is going to remember why. And if they close every time the is a hint of H1N1, they won't have any money.
It is horrible what happened and my heart goes out to the family, but you can't blame the schools for the decisions they make because they have to be that way due to the way our states funds its schools...
wise

Vilonia, AR

#11 Oct 23, 2009
Christine wrote:
Sorry, one more thing: Robinson said, while the typical rule is 'don't sent kids to school if they have had a fever in the past 24 hours' however, during this flu crisis, he advised not to send children to school post flu until they can go 48 hours without a fever UNmedicated. My son just got out of bed: high fever, chills, says 'his hair hurts'(scalp), coughing, sore throat, cheeks pink, lots of peeing but no diarhea and "feels yucky all over." His stomach does not hurt but I think the times he vomited it was due to hard coughing. Worst is the terrible headache.--Christine
this is no joke. last week for about my scalk hurt. i told muy wife that it hurt to just touch my hair. is this a sigh of some flu? and no hair jokes. i still have mine.
wise

Vilonia, AR

#12 Oct 23, 2009
must still have whatever it was as i can't spell this morning.
BMX Biker

Clarksburg, CA

#13 Oct 23, 2009
Keep your kids home and don't take them anywhere? I bet that on Friday and Saturday nights there will be sleepovers and all the usual... but I hope not.
worried mom

Vacaville, CA

#14 Oct 23, 2009
First my prayers go out to the family that lost there little girl, I don't know what I would do if I lost my son. I am sooooooo worried about this flu!!!! I know that fear should not rule, but My son is in first year of school and this is going on!!!!! I kept my son home from school today and Sierra Vista has not confermed any cases ...yet. I think they should just close the schools for a couple of days...all of them. I don't even know when my son can get the vacinne , it is not available at Northbay yet!!!! I also feel bad for the parents at Brownsvalley becuse they were't notified until the call on wed night because I got the same one.Parents should have known on monday if there were any suspicions That H1N1 was in our schools.
worried mom

Vacaville, CA

#15 Oct 23, 2009
all about the benjamins wrote:
It is all about funding. Schools are under enormous pressure to keep attendance up, hence they are very hesitant to close. They "might" get a break from the state, but that isn't sure. When they have to make cuts next year, no one is going to remember why. And if they close every time the is a hint of H1N1, they won't have any money.
It is horrible what happened and my heart goes out to the family, but you can't blame the schools for the decisions they make because they have to be that way due to the way our states funds its schools...
I understand that schools need our children to attend to make the school money...but they need to handle this as though they all had a child that is attending a vacaville school! Would the Big Wigs send there kids to infected schools???? I think not. One more thing... I don't think this is a little hint of H1N1, it has hit close to home taking a little girls life In OUR TOWN!!!!!
angel

Alameda, CA

#16 Oct 23, 2009
My son attends Wood, during the break he was sick with a horrible cough, and high fever, 2 weeks prior he had recieved his reg flu shot. Every single one of his close friends,(there are about 8-9 ) were sick same symptons, high fever, croupy type cough, making him throw up, all over icky feeling, headache, things tasting and smelling bad,lasts for about 3 days then he was good for a day then start all over again and that went on for about, well actually his stomach is still upset and is having trouble eating still and this is the 3rd week, the symptons are so inconsistant its hard to tell what it is, he still has that headache off and on, My husband has been fighting this same thing for the last 2 weeks and I have had the cough and its all rattly in my lungs esp. at night I wake up coughing so bad I cant catch my breath, and fever for the last 2 weeks off and on also. This is the strangest episode of flu ever. I have an 18 yr old, he works retail and hasnt been sick yet,didnt get a flu shot either and he has asthma, so we asumed he would have gotten this thing. Its just scary, My son who is in the Army has had both typs of flu shots has been hospitalized (overseas) twice with what they thought was H1N1. Im not sure these shots are even working. Has anyone gotten the vaccine and still gotten sick?
Vanden High MOM

Pleasanton, CA

#17 Oct 23, 2009
Christine wrote:
My 14yo daughter attends Will C Wood and my 10yo son attends Cooper. When my daughter came down with a 102 temp Sunday morning and became suddenly ill, swine flu was the furthest thing from my mind. I took her into the pediatrician Monday who said 'flu' and just to keep her home with naps, cooling baths, lots of water, Ibuprophen/Tylonal. My son, "healthy", continued attending Cooper until Wed morn when he awoke with 103 temp. Called the pediatrician who said NOT to bring him in, that "various forms of swine flu and many other illnesses were sweeping through the community" and that they were so overrun, their office was no longer testing routinely for H1N1. I canceled my work for the week and stayed home to tend the kids and get their homework. My son's Cooper teacher says there are 7 students out with the flu. I asked a substitute teacher about her Cooper kindergarten class who said their were 9 students out of 24 missing. My neighbor with two kids (Wood and Cooper) also have "the flu." The neighbor 5 doors down said a parent in her son's classroom told the teacher and Cooper principal Mr. Robinson that her child "had H1N1." I met with Mr. R after school yesterday to learn the school cannot close unless ordered to, the County will not order closure unless positive tests are run at the doctors and county level. As my pediatrician stated she was not running H1N1 tests, this seems a chicken-and-egg scenario. Robinson stated that the reality is that all Cooper students have probably already been in direct contact with H1N1, that some parents are sending sick kids to school (medicated with Ibuprophen to keep the fever down) and they are sending sick kids home every day. He says the virus cannot last on desks more than 3 hours so every day the classroom automatically starts fresh with no cleaning. I inquired about not having a note as doc did not see my son and Robinson said the school is very understanding, requests we file for Independent Study if the child is absent 5 days or more, requests we NOT send feverish/vomiting/coughing children to class--keep them home to recover and prevent the spread to others, and work with teachers to keep students up-to-date on classwork. Both my kids will be out through the week. My son is now projectile vomiting with 103 temp but my daughter is finally on the mend, just tired and weak. Clearly, the ilnness is NOT just limited to Brown's Valley. It is a community problem.
My daughter attends Vanden High and she came home with chest pain and body aches...the next day a sore throat came..then soon after a fever of 103 that went up and down for 3 days. By day two she had chest pain, body ache, joint pain, vomiting, diarreah, sore throat, cought and fever. She has had the flu before but this was way worse than she has ever had! I took her to kaiser (wearing a mask of course) and the doctor said "yes, she probably does have it, but she will just have to ride it out like any other flu." He also said "since she is healthy and not high risk, we WILL NOT test her." I don't get it either!! She did ride it out and is now better. My son goes to Golden West and got sick 2 days after my daughter was better. His was not as bad. So be prepared if you go to Kaiser...they will not test your child if they are not high risk.
Rebecca

Vacaville, CA

#18 Oct 23, 2009
My daughter is 11 and goes to Callison Elementary. I called and pulled her out of school for a week this morning, just to be on the safe side. She is not sick and has not been but at the same time I couldn't bear to lose my child. I asked them to enroll her in the independent study program so she still gets credit for the days and the school still gets their funds. So my question is why not send work home for a couple of days for all of the kids in Vacaville schools? They can do that and still get the credit for the students showing up right? It seems safer then us losing another young child in our town. Put everyone on a two day to one week independent study program. I know it wouldn't be easy but it just seems safer.
Reader

Vacaville, CA

#19 Oct 23, 2009
celticwitch wrote:
First off, my prayers too go to the family who lost their daughter and to the families of Browns Valley kids and staff.
My son attends Cooper. I just read the Reporter's latest story on this. I have a few questions:
1. Will it take the death of another child before the district decides parents need to know that H1N1 is making the rounds at another school? Because, regardless of all prevention IT WILL go thru all our schools..
Will it take a newsflash for you to know that the flu is making its way through the schools?

FLU IS MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH ALL THE SCHOOLS. At Browns Valley, a child died.
There are children out at every school. They are children with fever and cough and sore throat all over Vacaville.

You don't need the district to tell you this. People are sick everywhere. Thank God for most, it is mild.

God bless this child and her family.
Reader

Vacaville, CA

#20 Oct 23, 2009
Christine wrote:
Sorry, one more thing: Robinson said, while the typical rule is 'don't sent kids to school if they have had a fever in the past 24 hours' however, during this flu crisis, he advised not to send children to school post flu until they can go 48 hours without a fever UNmedicated. My son just got out of bed: high fever, chills, says 'his hair hurts'(scalp), coughing, sore throat, cheeks pink, lots of peeing but no diarhea and "feels yucky all over." His stomach does not hurt but I think the times he vomited it was due to hard coughing. Worst is the terrible headache.--Christine
I think you should call the doctor again! Insist he be seen. My two kids have also had the fever and cough already. Neither temp went above 103, and both were only mildly uncomfortable for about 3 or 4 days.

I have also had kids out of my classroom for 5 to 7 days.

Your child sounds worse than all that. Can't they give the Tamiflu?

Hang in there! I am so sorry!

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