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Thornton Police shoot, kill suspect during confrontation at house

There are 25 comments on the Fox 31 KDVR story from Mar 10, 2010, titled Thornton Police shoot, kill suspect during confrontation at house. In it, Fox 31 KDVR reports that:

A police officer shot and killed a burglary suspect Wednesday in a confrontation when the person returned to the house where it all began.

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Mountain Man

Loveland, CO

#1 Mar 10, 2010
One less criminal we have to worry about.

And for all of you who think the cops over-reacted, there is a rule called the 21 foot rule. It says that an aggressor can cover somewhere around 21 feet and stab you with a knife in the time it takes a trained person to draw, aim and fire. In reality it is probably closer to 30 feet.
ALF

Littleton, CO

#2 Mar 10, 2010
One psycho night on a bender and suicide by cop. One more degenerate out of the gene pool, not to mention the tax money saved feeding and defending - excellent.
Customs572

Brighton, CO

#3 Mar 10, 2010
Sounds like a suicide by cop ~

Since: Feb 10

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#4 Mar 10, 2010
Nice to know our cops are spending more time on the shooting rage.

Keep up the good work fellas, you just save the taxpayers a ton of money.

Nothing good happens in Thornton anymore.

Since: Feb 10

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#5 Mar 10, 2010
That's shooting RANGE, but rage works too.
Proud citizen

United States

#6 Mar 10, 2010
Nothing makes me more proud to know the people protecting us do their jobs. The men in blue rarely get a thank you and put their lives on the line each and everyday for all of us. These heroes should be honored, they saved not only their own lives but a child and others. Way to go guys...
LatinEarp

Denver, CO

#7 Mar 10, 2010
Sounds like TPD did everything right and had the time to do so. My condolences to the family of both the suspect who is doa and of the officers (they need support now too).

I will say that the taser really sucks these days! I don't even wear it anymore. I have 0 confidence in the taser. They need to trash it and go back to the drawing board!
Thankful

Broomfield, CO

#8 Mar 10, 2010
Thank you Thornton PD for keep us safe...
wendy C

Chicago, IL

#9 Mar 10, 2010
I live within 3 houses of this incident, and this is first time there has EVER been anincident of this magnitude in our neighboorhood. I feel that the statementthat you made that nothing good happens in thornton anymore, Thornton is a very good community, with one of the best school districs ect. And obviously something good did happen if you think about it, response time was very fast, and they responded in huge numbers, and I give props to Paramedics who provided cpr on the suspect, we observed them working on the suspect for approx 30 min prior to transport. And I agree that taxpayers were saved alot of money since suspect was more then likely DOA, and we will not have to "foot the bill for trail and housing him in prison
Never Would Have Guessed wrote:
Nice to know our cops are spending more time on the shooting rage.
Keep up the good work fellas, you just save the taxpayers a ton of money.
Nothing good happens in Thornton anymore.
news crier

Denver, CO

#10 Mar 10, 2010
My thoughts go to the officer at this time.

As a friend of law enforcement officers I know these things can have a tremendous affect on the officers involved.
wendy C

Chicago, IL

#11 Mar 10, 2010
I dont feel it is right to label someone, with not knowing the full dynamics of the siuation that lead up to the events that made this person make the choices he did. Refering to it as a night on a bender is a statement without proof, as there is no evidence at this point that the suspect was under influence of any drugs or alcohol. Must agree that the suspect was intent on not surviving this incident. The officers gave him verbal warnings to drop the weapon, and after utilizing the taser and it being ineffective with suspect still not complying with police orders the office reacted as needed to ensure safety of himself , fellow officers and our street.
ALF wrote:
One psycho night on a bender and suicide by cop. One more degenerate out of the gene pool, not to mention the tax money saved feeding and defending - excellent.
wendy C

Chicago, IL

#12 Mar 10, 2010
Thornton PD and emergency response crews did a great job, timely response and evaluation of the situation and reacted as the officer felt appropriate to ensure the safety of the officers and the victim and our quite neighboorhood. We are all so glad that the young boy was not physically harmed in incident, but who knows what long term affect this may cause for him, for having to be subjected to this level of violence at such a young age. The neighbors prayers go out the the families affected by this incident.
Proud citizen wrote:
Nothing makes me more proud to know the people protecting us do their jobs. The men in blue rarely get a thank you and put their lives on the line each and everyday for all of us. These heroes should be honored, they saved not only their own lives but a child and others. Way to go guys...
wendy C

Chicago, IL

#13 Mar 10, 2010
As being a witness to majority of the events that unfolded in this case, it does not appear that thorton police office over reacted in any way, they are trained to serve and protect and have to be able to make split second decisions in these types of situations. They did attempt to use a lesser form of force to stop the suspect, and when the suspect ignored the officers commands to drop the weapon and continued to approach officers they reacted in the appropriate way to ensure all concern safety.
Mountain Man wrote:
One less criminal we have to worry about.
And for all of you who think the cops over-reacted, there is a rule called the 21 foot rule. It says that an aggressor can cover somewhere around 21 feet and stab you with a knife in the time it takes a trained person to draw, aim and fire. In reality it is probably closer to 30 feet.
Mountain Man

Loveland, CO

#14 Mar 10, 2010
wendy C wrote:
As being a witness to majority of the events that unfolded in this case, it does not appear that thorton police office over reacted in any way, they are trained to serve and protect and have to be able to make split second decisions in these types of situations. They did attempt to use a lesser form of force to stop the suspect, and when the suspect ignored the officers commands to drop the weapon and continued to approach officers they reacted in the appropriate way to ensure all concern safety.<quoted text>
Wendy I am all for what they did. I train several times a month with law enforcement officers and I have all the respect in the world for what they do.
Eaglewings

Brighton, CO

#15 Mar 10, 2010
I can see that he approached the officers with a knife so why was'nt he shot on the hand or leg. I can understand that if the officers were shot at than of course they would have a reason to respond in the same manner. Was it really necessary to kill this victim or could they have dealt with another way.
plato

Castle Rock, CO

#16 Mar 10, 2010
The bottom feeders like Cole, Walter Gerash and David Lane will come out now to try to profit from this.
Mountain Man

Loveland, CO

#17 Mar 10, 2010
Eaglewings wrote:
I can see that he approached the officers with a knife so why was'nt he shot on the hand or leg. I can understand that if the officers were shot at than of course they would have a reason to respond in the same manner. Was it really necessary to kill this victim or could they have dealt with another way.
The reason is, they don't want to be killed with a knife. Police are not taught to shoot to wound. They tried the stupid taser. How bout they let the guy stab them and when the knife is safely stuck in the cops chest then they can disarm the guy.

You are a fool, and if you choose make the psycho out into the victim, then you are part of the problem. Pull your head out please!
Mountain Man

Loveland, CO

#18 Mar 10, 2010
Eaglewings wrote:
I can see that he approached the officers with a knife so why was'nt he shot on the hand or leg. I can understand that if the officers were shot at than of course they would have a reason to respond in the same manner. Was it really necessary to kill this victim or could they have dealt with another way.
One more thing. You watch too many movies. Hmmm why didnt the cop just magically shoot the knife from the man's hand, like in hollywood. You have no idea what it is like to be in a life and death situation.

I could sit and try to explain some of the physilogical responses that your body may go through during a situation like this, but it would do no good.

I can't fix stupid. You want to educate yourself? Go read Grossman's book "On Combat" it covers everything you would ever want to know about how your body reacts to situations like these.
I HATE democRATS

Loveland, CO

#19 Mar 10, 2010
One less burden for us tax-payers...

Since: Feb 10

Broomfield, CO

#20 Mar 10, 2010
Eaglewings wrote:
I can see that he approached the officers with a knife so why was'nt he shot on the hand or leg. I can understand that if the officers were shot at than of course they would have a reason to respond in the same manner. Was it really necessary to kill this victim or could they have dealt with another way.
There is always one in a crowd. Some peoples children!

Two questions:

A) Are you trained in a POST certified form of defensive tactic, such as KOGA or PPCT?

B) Have you ever been stabbed?

I can answer yes to both of these. I'm also certified in TKO (knife offense/defense).

That said, I am more afraid of a knife than a gun. They didn't have to even attempt to use a TASER or other form of Less Lethal, given the circumstances. I would have shot him until the threat was eliminated once the threat was presented.

This guy flipped out, burned up a car, and was done with life.

The police acted appropriately.

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