When cuts hit home Columbus Dispatch Politics

There are 20 comments on the Jul 9, 2009, DispatchPolitics story titled When cuts hit home Columbus Dispatch Politics. In it, DispatchPolitics reports that:

After 11 years of staying in an assisted-living facility, 106-year-old Mary Wampler is being forced into a nursing home.

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Cass

Columbus, OH

#1 Jul 9, 2009
Why cut assistance to the elderly who, in most cases, have been contributing members of society? They have no means of helping themselves. We should start taking a close look at the young women who have babies just to get numerous types of aid and a free ride. Many of them are nothing but leeches.
Judy

Grovetown, GA

#2 Jul 9, 2009
I wonder why the families of these precious "Senior Saints" don't take them into their homes. Maybe it would disrupt their lives!!! HUMMMM!!!
inge

Tampa, FL

#3 Jul 9, 2009
The perfect example of politics at work. It costs mor to put people into the nursing home and yet they are going to do that. Makes no sense. Yes, sterilize the serial child producers.
Thinking

Hilliard, OH

#4 Jul 9, 2009
People should talk to their state legislature about their feelings. The process of needing assistance should be in levels. If someone can stay home with assistance that's level one (least expensive). Assistance-living places is level two (a little more expensive). Long-term care homes are level three (most expensive).

The potential of level one should be provided whether the elderly person lives alone or at home with family or with a friend. It would be basic assistance.

Just making negative, nasty comments doens't solve a problem.
Donna

Cincinnati, OH

#5 Jul 9, 2009
Judy wrote:
I wonder why the families of these precious "Senior Saints" don't take them into their homes. Maybe it would disrupt their lives!!! HUMMMM!!!
Unfortunately, a 106 year old woman might not even have anyone left in her family to care for her. If she had a son/daughter, they would probably be 80 something. I agree that this is a very sad situation. When a person gets to be the age of this woman, disrupting her life by moving her into a new facility and with strangers is a major disruption in their lives. Sometimes older people who live in these facilities for a number of years bond to their helpers and fellow residents like a family would. I guess you could say because they are in that situation that they have no other choice but to become a part of a family relationship with the people at these facilities. To me, this is very sad. And, without becoming too political, is this the "change" that President O'Bama promised?? Too bad, if it is.
PeteCMH

Lancaster, OH

#6 Jul 9, 2009
Thinking wrote:
People should talk to their state legislature about their feelings. The process of needing assistance should be in levels. If someone can stay home with assistance that's level one (least expensive). Assistance-living places is level two (a little more expensive). Long-term care homes are level three (most expensive).
That's just what Ohio has now - the PASSPORT, Choices, and PACE programs assist with level one care, the Assisted Living waiver provides is available for level two care, and Medicare-funded nursing home placement is for level three.

It's absolute lunacy that the legislature and the Governor want to take money AWAY from PASSPORT/Choices/PACE (which have been proven to be 1/3 the cost of a nursing facility) and give MORE money to the nursing homes. If anything, these programs should be funded at a higher rate, as they are much more cost effective, and much preferred by the seniors enrolled in them.

Since: Jul 09

Powell, OH

#7 Jul 9, 2009
Yes, it is indeed the change that President Obama promised. This is what happens when politics gets involved in our lives. The government can't run Medicaid and Medicare without corruption and incompetence. Just imagine if they ran health care too. We're being fed a bunch of lies about the benefits of a government run health care system. We must refrain from letting the government run every aspect of our lives.
BUNNIE

Grove City, OH

#8 Jul 9, 2009
Judy in Florida, I read negativity and sarcasm in your comment. Maybe I am wrong. Apparently, you do not realize that many, many, many people have their parents or other aging relatives living in their homes, or if you realize it, you haven't had to experience it. Maybe you have a reason for your comment but it seems that you have anger in your heart. It seems that many people are very quick to scrutinize someone for their living conditions. Many of us who are age 65 plus, are now returning to work. I am not complaining. It is a fact. I just don't think that comments like what you made are productive. Our mother is living with one of our siblings. She has already lived with me and two other siblings over the past six years. Only because she became ill, did she decide to give up her senior apartment and move in with us. Our dad died in 1991. Mother recently wanted to go to assisted living so she could have her independence again. After we applied to the proper authorities, we found out that our state no longer is allowing her to do so because she is on Medicaid and can't afford to self pay. From what we understand, this took place during the present administration. If the rest of us could do it, we would pay it for her. So please, before making a statement like you made, consider other's feelings. After a person has lived as a citizen in our country and has contributed many years of work and taxes which we have all done, they should be able to have top priority of consideration during their later years. I feel that taking away any benefits that would enable them to maintain an independent life, is just wrong. This is what we have found to be happening. We speak from personal experience. Mom will be 89 in February. She is now worrying that her benefits will be decreased. She has enough to worry about as her youngest of six, our 52 year old brother, is dying of Cancer. We need to do something. We need not to take away anything from our seniors. They made our country what it is. We are free and still live in the most wonderful country in the world. And I am allowed to say that. I was born here, raised here, went to school here worshipped here, married here, raised four kids here, paid many, many years of taxes here. I am proud of that. I feel I have a right to state my opinion when it comes to taking care of our elderly. Again,taking away their benefits is not right.
Strickland is heatless

New York, NY

#9 Jul 9, 2009
There's not enough words to describe how heartless our goverment officials are. They get their cushy packages and don't give a damn as to the damage they will cause to these people! And to think we will pay more and cram them in a 2x4 for more money! Goverment at it's best!
Long Term Care Insurance

Carthage, IN

#10 Jul 9, 2009
Last year the Governor sent out letters to all Ohioans to get Long Term Care Insurance. All of this can be avoided with coverage. Yes it is a little expensive but we are talking about insurance that pays an average of $70,000 a year if you need assistance. This is not the good ol' days where the kids quit their jobs and take care of their parents. Lets say they can't afford the Long Term Care coverage. There are policies were if you have cash just setting in a CD, you can give that cash to an Insurance Company and they can leverage your money. Example:
49 year old...has 50K in a CD in a bank...you can give that money to an insurance company and they can turn that 50K into 300K for long term care! Why use your own money dollar for dollar when you can leverage your money! The only stipulation is that you have to be healthy. On top of all of this, if you need your money back you have a 100% money back guarantee.

I am an agent for the top rated insurance company in the United States, and I know this is how our policy works. You have to work with a company that is rated well with the rating companies because this is something you may not use for 40 years, and it is nothing but a promise to pay on paper.

My company is rated AAA by all four of the rating companies. Good luck Ohioans, most do not plan to fail, they just fail to plan.
JAR

Cincinnati, OH

#11 Jul 9, 2009
When will the 50K turn into 300K? In thirty years?
flushdobamyturrd

Placitas, NM

#12 Jul 9, 2009
perhaps if we're luck someone will put obammyturd in an assisted living facility
Jane

Duluth, MN

#13 Jul 9, 2009
Long Term Care Insurance wrote:
Last year the Governor sent out letters to all Ohioans to get Long Term Care Insurance. All of this can be avoided with coverage. Yes it is a little expensive but we are talking about insurance that pays an average of $70,000 a year if you need assistance. This is not the good ol' days where the kids quit their jobs and take care of their parents. Lets say they can't afford the Long Term Care coverage. There are policies were if you have cash just setting in a CD, you can give that cash to an Insurance Company and they can leverage your money. Example:
49 year old...has 50K in a CD in a bank...you can give that money to an insurance company and they can turn that 50K into 300K for long term care! Why use your own money dollar for dollar when you can leverage your money! The only stipulation is that you have to be healthy. On top of all of this, if you need your money back you have a 100% money back guarantee.
I am an agent for the top rated insurance company in the United States, and I know this is how our policy works. You have to work with a company that is rated well with the rating companies because this is something you may not use for 40 years, and it is nothing but a promise to pay on paper.
My company is rated AAA by all four of the rating companies. Good luck Ohioans, most do not plan to fail, they just fail to plan.
That's great for people working now, but it doesn't fix the problem for people living in assisted living now.
justwondering

Bellefontaine, OH

#14 Jul 9, 2009
To Long Term Care Insurance, I am 54, obese, diabetic, and have high blood pressure. I don't smoke or drink. I am active and the blood pressure is under control with 3 meds. How likely would it be that I would qualify for LTCI?
victoria

Grove City, OH

#15 Jul 9, 2009
I do beleive we need control over these women who take advantage of the system popping out a baby every year just because here lazy no goods. Iv seen many of them at the welfare offices when I take my patient there just laughing about it. it makes me sick. Elderly people have rights too.they get no respect.we need to make this nation a god fearing nation again and just maybe he will bless us once again instead of curse us. may god help this country!!!!!!!!!
Fred Ballard

United States

#16 Jul 9, 2009
Ms. Ginter, you need to understand that the politicians don't care a whit about these families or the devastation this is causing them. All they care about is their re-election campaign war chests. If these families could come up with more money than the nursing homes, then they, too could buy their very own politicians and keep their loved ones in assisted care where they belong. It's all just legal bribery, and until the campaign laws are changed, which would be a cold day in hell, then he who gives them the most money, owns them. Maybe we should tax campaign contributions. Think how much money could be raised then!
Had enough

United States

#17 Jul 9, 2009
I agree Victoria! Only I would go one step further; Before the State doles out my tax money to the baby producing welfare recipients how about drug testing them! If I have to be drug tested to work, they should be drug tested to collect my tax dollars. That should save tax payers a fortune! Reduce the welfare recipients and leave the elderly alone, they have put in there time and money! The freeloading has to stop!
Ignorance is something

Cleveland, OH

#18 Jul 9, 2009
For the two of you Obama-blamers on here, note that this is a STATE policy, not a national one, so Obama has nothing to do with it. Get over it, you lost. Stop trying to blame everything on Obama. Remember how PO'd you got when the liberals used to blame everything on Bush? Oh, right, maybe this is your payback. Just like Governor Sanford calling for Clinton's impeachment for having an affair and lying about it, yet not being willing to step down when he is caught in quite a lie of his own. Hypocritical and two-faced is what it is.
Parasite Government

Columbus, OH

#19 Jul 9, 2009
It's not the role of government to pay for the care of your parents or grandparents. I'm sure there are examples of people who are alone due to unfortunate events, but governmemt is a horrible substitute for family.

My elderly Father did far better living with one of this children than he ever did in any nursing home or "assisted living" facility. It is just further evidence of the social decay in this country that Grandparents are dumped on the state by family.

Of course, under National Health Care, and their stated goal of reducing "end of life" expenses, old people may just be turned into "soylent green" sooner than you may think.

“KISS THIS SMOKERS BUTT”

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#20 Jul 9, 2009
Ignorance is something wrote:
For the two of you Obama-blamers on here, note that this is a STATE policy, not a national one, so Obama has nothing to do with it. Get over it, you lost. Stop trying to blame everything on Obama. Remember how PO'd you got when the liberals used to blame everything on Bush? Oh, right, maybe this is your payback. Just like Governor Sanford calling for Clinton's impeachment for having an affair and lying about it, yet not being willing to step down when he is caught in quite a lie of his own. Hypocritical and two-faced is what it is.
I am a democrat but politics aside, welcome to Obuma nation and his socialized healthcare which could lead to elimination rather than treatment and only the fittest will survive to save money that Obama has squandered to set up his kingdom

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