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Independent

Grissom Afb, IN

#2 Feb 4, 2013
wendy wrote:
So I went a filed my taxes and at the end they started asking questions about my insurance. I currently do not have insurance I make to much to get it thru state my work does not offer it and I don't make enough to buy my own so I just don't carry any.. but starting 2014 you are required to carry health insurance if not you get a fine from the government ..but now they raise the bar of income to receive state insurance and I qualify but only cause I have a child. But if you don't qualify its $186 a month Obama just wants more money to send to china
This is the bill that former speaker Nancy Pelosi said" we have to pass it so the people know what's in it" we were promised it would be on line so we could read it, there would be Transparency, it would be broadcast on C-Span, yes this over 2700 page bill was forced upon the American people, Obamanites think they are going to get free healthcare, do they have another thing coming. They stole over 700 billion dollars from Medicare to pay for it, and our seniors were told that would not be touched, this is only the start. Our politicians are exempt from this bill, they have their own plan.
v8s10freak

United States

#3 Feb 4, 2013
wendy wrote:
So I went a filed my taxes and at the end they started asking questions about my insurance. I currently do not have insurance I make to much to get it thru state my work does not offer it and I don't make enough to buy my own so I just don't carry any.. but starting 2014 you are required to carry health insurance if not you get a fine from the government ..but now they raise the bar of income to receive state insurance and I qualify but only cause I have a child. But if you don't qualify its $186 a month Obama just wants more money to send to china
sounds like a good plan to me would you rather pay $500 to $600 dollars a month for health care. go thru cobra or any other health insurance and thats what you will be paying.quit listing to the republican propaganda B.S
Independent

Lafayette, IN

#4 Feb 4, 2013
v8s10freak wrote:
<quoted text>sounds like a good plan to me would you rather pay $500 to $600 dollars a month for health care. go thru cobra or any other health insurance and thats what you will be paying.quit listing to the republican propaganda B.S
You are one of the dumbest Obamanites I have ever heard spew. you are clueless of what is going on around you, are you on drugs or just stupid?
green

Brandon, FL

#5 Feb 4, 2013
are thay going to fine people that and give them ins. or just make them pay a fine? and no ins. i thank there just going to call it a tax and when you pay tax 's that it no ins.
v8s10freak

United States

#6 Feb 4, 2013
green wrote:
are thay going to fine people that and give them ins. or just make them pay a fine? and no ins. i thank there just going to call it a tax and when you pay tax 's that it no ins.
ask independt he has all the low down on the republican propaganda B.S
v8s10freak

United States

#7 Feb 4, 2013
excuse me thats independent
green

Brandon, FL

#8 Feb 4, 2013
ok ha ha you made me laugh
confused

Versailles, IN

#9 Feb 4, 2013
wendy wrote:
So I went a filed my taxes and at the end they started asking questions about my insurance. I currently do not have insurance I make to much to get it thru state my work does not offer it and I don't make enough to buy my own so I just don't carry any.. but starting 2014 you are required to carry health insurance if not you get a fine from the government ..but now they raise the bar of income to receive state insurance and I qualify but only cause I have a child. But if you don't qualify its $186 a month Obama just wants more money to send to china
Let me make sure I understand. You're eligible for medicaid under the new plan because you have a child? For free? And you're bitching about it? Did I miss something?
Independent

Lafayette, IN

#10 Feb 4, 2013
confused wrote:
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Let me make sure I understand. You're eligible for medicaid under the new plan because you have a child? For free? And you're bitching about it? Did I miss something?
Yes you have missed a lot, Obama care is not free, so many Obamanites were conned in to believing this, it is a tax for everyone .
Independent

Lafayette, IN

#11 Feb 4, 2013
v8s10freak wrote:
<quoted text>ask independt he has all the low down on the republican propaganda B.S
freak, you have no clue what this will do to you and your family, it is just starting, and by the way if amnesty is passed your job will be obsolete, you make to much money,they will get a former illegal alien to do what you did for half the cost, illegal aliens are very good at laying brick.
What else is new

Brookville, IN

#12 Feb 4, 2013
Independent wrote:
<quoted text>You are one of the dumbest Obamanites I have ever heard spew. you are clueless of what is going on around you, are you on drugs or just stupid?
Typical Republican stance (NOT independent because you have never once indicated anything that leads me to think you are independent. You suck the coat-tails of the far right Republicans). Typical stance is if somebody doesn't agree they must be stupid, dumb, clueless or on drugs. Yeah. That makes sense. You have to be right because its you. Right? Go stand up for that right to free speech again.
Independent

Lafayette, IN

#13 Feb 4, 2013
What else is new wrote:
<quoted text>Typical Republican stance (NOT independent because you have never once indicated anything that leads me to think you are independent. You suck the coat-tails of the far right Republicans). Typical stance is if somebody doesn't agree they must be stupid, dumb, clueless or on drugs. Yeah. That makes sense. You have to be right because its you. Right? Go stand up for that right to free speech again.
Where have I said anything about how great the repubs are, you dems are really clueless on most things that deal with politics. I really do not care if you think Im Independent or not because you are closed minded when it comes to the liberal democrats and Obama like most on here who support him. It has been a rare Occurence for any die hard dem to debate me on any thing I have posted, most like to make some sort of comment like you have. If what I have posted is some kind of "republican propaganda" prove me wrong.
Independent

Grissom Afb, IN

#15 Feb 5, 2013
wendy wrote:
You will be fined if you do not carry insurance .. yes me and my child are free but his dad is not cause we are not married but we live in the same house pay the same bills but since we haven't said I do we are considered single so we still loose out on money. If we were married it would be free for both of us. And I'm not worried about me how about the rest of the world that struggle the way if is and now a fine if you can't afford insurance. You obamanites are f**king stupid if you think he's helping us .. you all are so blinded by his lies that America is crumbling all around you.. when its your family that struggles don't cry about it just remember you voted for the terrorist Obama
The bits and pieces that has came out so far is that we all are going to have to pay something, buy into it fines or whatever,that is the only way they can pay for it, nothing is free. Dont forget they are robbing Medicare of 700 billion dollars to help pay for it. We have had the Benghazi,Libya coverup, where the US ambassador and three others murdered including two navy seals, the Fast and furious scandal where guns were ran across the border to the Mexican cartels, one of those guns was linked to the death of border agent Terry. The economy is mess still, unemployment went back up to 7.9percent and all Obama talks about is amnesty for the illegal aliens, gays in the Boy Scouts, obamacare, golf and vacations.
Wendy stick around these Obamanites need educated.
Pebbles

Valparaiso, IN

#16 Feb 5, 2013
v8s10freak wrote:
excuse me thats independent
You even read his posts?
I quit 32 years ago!!!
Pebbles
Independent

Grissom Afb, IN

#17 Feb 5, 2013
Pebbles wrote:
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You even read his posts?
I quit 32 years ago!!!
Pebbles
Now Peebles it hasn't been that long ago, was there even Internet that long ago? LOL! Admit it you can't wait to read my posts so you can make some sort of Unintelligible comment.
Pebbles

Valparaiso, IN

#18 Feb 6, 2013
Independent wrote:
<quoted text>Now Peebles it hasn't been that long ago, was there even Internet that long ago? LOL! Admit it you can't wait to read my posts so you can make some sort of Unintelligible comment.
Oh..........
Pooh-Kitty

Neches, TX

#19 Feb 6, 2013
wendy wrote:
You will be fined if you do not carry insurance .. yes me and my child are free but his dad is not cause we are not married but we live in the same house pay the same bills but since we haven't said I do we are considered single so we still loose out on money. If we were married it would be free for both of us. And I'm not worried about me how about the rest of the world that struggle the way if is and now a fine if you can't afford insurance. You obamanites are f**king stupid if you think he's helping us .. you all are so blinded by his lies that America is crumbling all around you.. when its your family that struggles don't cry about it just remember you voted for the terrorist Obama
Good God Gertie,I say yours is FREE because you get MEDICAID. What makes you so SPECIAL.? You got a KID , Big Whoopie Doo. You still aint no better then the next guy. You should have to pay for your own insurance like the rest of us.
Independent

Grissom Afb, IN

#20 Feb 6, 2013
Pooh-Kitty wrote:
<quoted text>Good God Gertie,I say yours is FREE because you get MEDICAID. What makes you so SPECIAL.? You got a KID , Big Whoopie Doo. You still aint no better then the next guy. You should have to pay for your own insurance like the rest of us.
Pooh leave te kid alone, Obama, Pelosi, Reid and all the democrats made it look like healthcare would be free, now people are starting to see the light, it ain't free.
Understand

Lafayette, IN

#22 Feb 7, 2013
wendy wrote:
Excuse me but you need to check yourself.. I have worked since I was 14 paying taxes and most of the time I was paying taxes in two different states cause I worked in one and lived in another. I have paid more than enough to this government. I have been denied insurance cause I make to much but I make to little to pay an insurance company for a policy. I have paid taxes for bums to sit and feed their faces on food stamps that we the working people pay for.. I see people with insurance handed to them for free when they don't work a day in their life. I HAVE WORKED MY A** OFF TO GET WHAT I DO HAVE AND ILL BE DAMNED IF YOUR GOING TO TALK SMACK TO ME ABOUT PAYING FOR STUFF.. TELL THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE FOR FREE SITTING IN THEIR COMFORTABLE HOUSE WATCHING THEIR BIG SCREEN TV EATING UP ALL OUR TAX MONEY TO GET UP AND FIND A JOB AND PAY FOR SOMETHING.. if the government would help the working class their would be more workers and less crack head bums and our taxed wouldn't be so high cause their would be more people actually paying them..
I agree yet even when you have insurance, you pay a big deductable and 20% of the bill. I think it is insurance companies and drug companies out to screw the American people. I sure would like to know what the top brass are paid. Medical bills even with insurance can be devistating and you could lose your home and retirement savings with the prices.Next thing you know your name is in the paper for not being able to pay your hospital bill.
These companies seem to wan't us to be on welfare or NO CARE!
Independent

Grissom Afb, IN

#23 Feb 11, 2013
Last week, a new Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report updated the amount of money Obamacare robs out of Medicare from $500 billion to a whopping $716 billion between 2013 and 2022.

According to the CBO, the payment cuts in Medicare include:

A $260 billion payment cut for hospital services.
A $39 billion payment cut for skilled nursing services.
A $17 billion payment cut for hospice services.
A $66 billion payment cut for home health services.
A $33 billion payment cut for all other services.
A $156 billion cut in payment rates in Medicare Advantage (MA); $156 billion is before considering interactions with other provisions. The House Ways and Means Committee was able to include interactions with other provisions, estimating the cuts to MA to be even higher, coming in at $308 billion.
$56 billion in cuts for disproportionate share hospital (DSH) payments.* DSH payments go to hospitals that serve a large number of low-income patients.
$114 billion in other provisions pertaining to Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP*(does not include coverage-related provisions).

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