Church split follows years of infighting

Aug 29, 2010 Full story: www.argusleader.com 65

Fierce fighting among some Lutherans culminated in Friday's formation of the North American Lutheran Church, the nation's newest church body. The church has strong ties to a little-known ministry in the Twin Cities and a new seminary in Brookings.

The battles have included scorching accusations of blasphemy, "devilish" behavior and the leader of a reform group declaring that last year's vote on gay clergy amounted to the biblical sign of the beast: 666 ... Full Story
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“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#1 Aug 29, 2010
from argusleader:

"A violent thunderstorm swirled over the Twin Cities as ELCA leaders gathered to consider the gay clergy policy last August at the Minneapolis Convention Center.

"The Rev. Jaynan Clark, WordAlone's president, said she felt discounted and despised by supporters of the measure. The churchwide assembly 'has thus far been like a freight train out of Hell,' she said in a WordAlone news release.

"The release described a tornado that had ripped through downtown, and Clark drew a parallel between the storm and the controversial vote.

"'According to National Public Radio, the tornado came out of nowhere,' Clark wrote.'On the other side of the street from the Minneapolis Convention Center, the cross on top of Central Lutheran was bent toward the ground and tents and tables were turned over.'

"Votes then were tallied and results flashed on a screen, Clark wrote in the news release.

"'The numbers could not be denied,' she wrote.'The statement on human sexuality passed by one vote bringing the percentage to a number not unknown to those who read their Bibles - 66.67."

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#2 Aug 30, 2010
What does this have to do with TEC, joline?

Nothing.

Good thing it doesn't expose your bigotry.

LOL..........
T McCabe

Fayetteville, TN

#3 Aug 30, 2010
One is reminded of the Puritan Divines in New England thinking that every storm was a message from God to them.

They really didn't know much about mental health issues in those days.

One has to wonder if people that worry about:

"the cross on top of Central Lutheran was bent toward the ground and tents and tables were turned over."

should seek profession mental health care as quickly as possible.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#4 Aug 30, 2010
MiddleWay wrote:
What does this have to do with TEC, joline?
Nothing ...
Nothing?

"As far back as 1999, some Lutherans in the ELCA were talking about creating a new denomination. Angered by the ELCA's agreement with the Episcopal Church that year, they gathered in regional meetings across the country.

"The agreement, known as 'Called to Common Mission,' established full communion between the ELCA and the Episcopalians, allowing for the exchange of clergy between the two denominations."

Next time read the article before you post your ignorance.
Listen to the Word

Kingman, AZ

#5 Aug 30, 2010
The agreement between the ELCA and TEC undoubtedly matched two birds of a feather. Both allow and foster everything from low church (ala Reformed theology and pietism) to middle church (ala Lutheran theology)and high church (ala Roman theology). Both also embrace those contemporary religious shinanigans which only caricaturize historic Christianity, both embrace homosexuality was a God-pleasing and Bible promoted "life style" and both are befuddled because their members and churches are leaving in droves -- either in person or with their offerings and other support.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#6 Aug 31, 2010
Joe DeCaro wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing?
"As far back as 1999, some Lutherans in the ELCA were talking about creating a new denomination. Angered by the ELCA's agreement with the Episcopal Church that year, they gathered in regional meetings across the country.
"The agreement, known as 'Called to Common Mission,' established full communion between the ELCA and the Episcopalians, allowing for the exchange of clergy between the two denominations."
Next time read the article before you post your ignorance.
Nope, still don't know what this has to do with TEC, we talk to lots of denominations, we're not romans after all.

LOL..........
T McCabe

Fayetteville, TN

#7 Aug 31, 2010
MiddleWay wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, still don't know what this has to do with TEC, we talk to lots of denominations, we're not romans after all.
LOL..........
I am very happy we are moving closer the The Moravian Brethren.

They really are good people and so much nicer then 'Anglicans'.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#8 Aug 31, 2010
MiddleWay wrote:
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Nope, still don't know what this has to do with TEC, we talk to lots of denominations ...
This is more than just "talk":

"... The agreement, known as 'Called to Common Mission,' established full communion between the ELCA and the Episcopalians, allowing for the exchange of clergy between the two denominations."

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#9 Sep 1, 2010
Joe DeCaro wrote:
<quoted text>
This is more than just "talk":
"... The agreement, known as 'Called to Common Mission,' established full communion between the ELCA and the Episcopalians, allowing for the exchange of clergy between the two denominations."
And that just chaps your little ass, doesn't it.

LOL

Jealous..........

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#10 Sep 1, 2010
MiddleWay wrote:
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And that just chaps ...
I'm not Lutheran.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#11 Sep 2, 2010
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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I'm not Lutheran.
Really?

I had no idea.

You seem more like, as TA put it, a 'brain-washed' roman.

LOL!

No icky posts or symbols to him, I see.

OF course, being in love with him, I suppose you can overlook his remarks to your cult..........
Think Again

Winterville, NC

#12 Sep 2, 2010
MiddleWay wrote:
<quoted text>
Really?
I had no idea.
You seem more like, as TA put it, a 'brain-washed' roman.
LOL!
No icky posts or symbols to him, I see.
OF course, being in love with him, I suppose you can overlook his remarks to your cult..........
You are a brain-washed Episcopalian.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#13 Sep 3, 2010
Think Again wrote:
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You are a brain-washed Episcopalian.
And you are perfect.

6000 year old earth.

Go worship your book.

LMAO..........
T McCabe

Fayetteville, TN

#14 Sep 3, 2010
Think Again wrote:
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You are a brain-washed Episcopalian.
Is that really the best you can come up with as a reply.

Are we on the playground and back in grade school?
Think Again

Winterville, NC

#15 Sep 3, 2010
T McCabe wrote:
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Is that really the best you can come up with as a reply.
Are we on the playground and back in grade school?
I figured I would start dumbing down my responses so you could understand them. I am only trying to help you out sock puppet.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#16 Sep 4, 2010
T McCabe wrote:
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Is that really the best you can come up with as a reply.
Are we on the playground and back in grade school?
I think he is.

No grown man can be that stupid and ON PURPOSE!

LOL..........

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#17 Sep 4, 2010
MiddleWay wrote:
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I think he is.
No grown man can be that stupid and ON PURPOSE!...
I'm not so sure: have you read your own posts lately?

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#18 Sep 4, 2010
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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I'm not so sure: have you read your own posts lately?
Nope, I don't reread my posts endlessly.

I know you do and get some kind of thrill from being wrong so often.

LOL, now run along joline, take your hate and bigotry with you...
T McCabe

Fayetteville, TN

#19 Sep 4, 2010
MiddleWay wrote:
<quoted text>
I think he is.
No grown man can be that stupid and ON PURPOSE!
LOL..........
Perhaps it is his 'second childhood'.
Think Again

Winterville, NC

#20 Sep 4, 2010
Joe DeCaro wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not so sure: have you read your own posts lately?
You hit the nail on the head.

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