Mississippi judge jails attorney for not reciting Pledge of Allegiance

Full story: Santa Cruz Sentinel

A Mississippi judge jailed a lawyer for several hours for refusing to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, ordering the attorney to "purge himself" of contempt by standing and repeating the oath like the rest of the courtroom.
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LosingUS

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sammy wrote:
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Alex is nothing but an entertainer and does not care about reality. Try reading some books and do your own research.
"Slap" reality. Try coming out if denial, do your own reading.
http://www.policemisconduct.net/
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"Slap" reality. Try coming out if denial, do your own reading.
http://www.policemisconduct.net/
For every nut cop there are many good ones. There are millions of cops and everyone has a cell recorder. Look at the odds. This is pure media hype to get your emotions going. The TV does the same thing. No one will broadcast the things that they are using to rip you off.

If you are worried about enforcement start a neighborhood watch and ask the mayor to stay away from you area. Fat chance your will find citizens willing to testify in court against the criminals. It is the citizens that are the thugs.
Patrick Henry

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sammy wrote:
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Alex is nothing but an entertainer and does not care about reality. Try reading some books and do your own research.
You seem to know a lot, can you recommend some books?
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Feb 13, 2014
 
Yes do we have rights?
sammy

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Feb 13, 2014
 
Patrick Henry wrote:
<quoted text>You seem to know a lot, can you recommend some books?
"Public Opinion" by Walter Lippman
"Closing of the American Mind" by Allan Bloom
"John Stuart Mill and the art of life" Oxford University Press
"Common Sense" Thomas Paine
Anarcho-Communis t

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For every nut cop there are many good ones. There are millions of cops and everyone has a cell recorder. Look at the odds. This is pure media hype to get your emotions going. The TV does the same thing. No one will broadcast the things that they are using to rip you off.
If you are worried about enforcement start a neighborhood watch and ask the mayor to stay away from you area. Fat chance your will find citizens willing to testify in court against the criminals. It is the citizens that are the thugs.
And I'm sure there were many good people in the SS, too. But as an institution the SS was a terrible evil and the same for the cops. If you can't see that the police are a state sanctioned mafia with a monopoly on violence then you haven't been paying attention. There have to better ways to control sociopathic behavior in society than to create an institution that attracts authoritarian sociopaths.
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And I'm sure there were many good people in the SS, too. But as an institution the SS was a terrible evil and the same for the cops. If you can't see that the police are a state sanctioned mafia with a monopoly on violence then you haven't been paying attention. There have to better ways to control sociopathic behavior in society than to create an institution that attracts authoritarian sociopaths.
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It is the poor behavior of the criminals that create hard cops. The bigger problem is those that vote in a government and demand protection and security. You cannot be secure and have the government provide without loss of freedom. For example speed limits are the result of people complaining about people driving fast. Either you drive defensively and let people speed or slow everyone down so you can smoke and listen to the radio when driving. You lose freedom when you want security.
Anarcho-Communis t

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It is the poor behavior of the criminals that create hard cops. The bigger problem is those that vote in a government and demand protection and security. You cannot be secure and have the government provide without loss of freedom. For example speed limits are the result of people complaining about people driving fast. Either you drive defensively and let people speed or slow everyone down so you can smoke and listen to the radio when driving. You lose freedom when you want security.
There is a mighty wide gulf between cops writing speeding tickets and cops beating homeless people to death. Or cops beating and jailing people for video recording them. Or cops beating and jailing striking workers or protesters. The primary purpose of modern 'law enforcement' is to protect private property and by private property I'm not referring to your personal home or your car..I'm referring to private property in the Marxist sense of the word. I've had a cop tell me I had 12 hours to get out of 'his' town because he didn't like the book I happened to be reading in the restaurant we both happened to be at...it never passed thru his mind that he had absolutely no legal justification for saying something like that but he didn't care. That's what happens when you give sociopaths a gun and a legal mandate to behave like dictators in their interpersonal interactions with the citizenry.
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Feb 13, 2014
 
Anarcho-Communist wrote:
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And I'm sure there were many good people in the SS, too. But as an institution the SS was a terrible evil and the same for the cops. If you can't see that the police are a state sanctioned mafia with a monopoly on violence then you haven't been paying attention. There have to better ways to control sociopathic behavior in society than to create an institution that attracts authoritarian sociopaths.
Good points, as ruthless as the SS were they still didn't hate and go to war with their own people. Maybe we are being forced to "purge" our Constitutional rights as the Attorney in the article.
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Feb 13, 2014
 
" The primary purpose of modern 'law enforcement' is to protect private property and by private property"
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That is where you made a mistake. The local police are to collect taxes for local government. They are paid by local government. Protecting you property is a federal job done by the Federal government. You rights are given by federal government not local government. Cops beat local people because they elect corrupt local officials. Local government is political and gives favors to those with money that support them. Next time do not vote for those who bought their way on the ballot. Write in a vote for an honest person. If you want legal rights in local issues file a complaint with the FBI. As long as local people have the right to make local laws there will be local tyranny.
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Feb 13, 2014
 
sammy wrote:
" The primary purpose of modern 'law enforcement' is to protect private property and by private property"
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That is where you made a mistake. The local police are to collect taxes for local government. They are paid by local government. Protecting you property is a federal job done by the Federal government. You rights are given by federal government not local government. Cops beat local people because they elect corrupt local officials. Local government is political and gives favors to those with money that support them. Next time do not vote for those who bought their way on the ballot. Write in a vote for an honest person. If you want legal rights in local issues file a complaint with the FBI. As long as local people have the right to make local laws there will be local tyranny.
Your position seems very confused. Fines could be argued as a form of taxation but thats neither the goal or the end effect of law enforcement. Your confusing private property for personal property and both are the domain of local law enforcement. The FBI exists (other than to act as an inward facing CIA, see COINTELPRO) to enforce federal law and investigate interstate and federal level crimes. The FBI only gets involved if the crimes are significant or cross state lines.

Its a strange stance, to sort of exonerate the police for their own brutality and misconduct and divert the blame to elected politicians and, by extension, the people who elected them. And then to go on to dclare that all power should be centralized in a federal authority?
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Your position seems very confused. Fines could be argued as a form of taxation but thats neither the goal or the end effect of law enforcement. Your confusing private property for personal property and both are the domain of local law enforcement. The FBI exists (other than to act as an inward facing CIA, see COINTELPRO) to enforce federal law and investigate interstate and federal level crimes. The FBI only gets involved if the crimes are significant or cross state lines.
Its a strange stance, to sort of exonerate the police for their own brutality and misconduct and divert the blame to elected politicians and, by extension, the people who elected them. And then to go on to dclare that all power should be centralized in a federal authority?
I agree wholeheartedly, Sammy first says there us no problem, then blames the problem on the people, goes on to shift the problem again from the people to local Government. If a Cop commits a crime it is that officer who is at fault, period, and that officer should be held accountable.... However, we all know no matter how bad the crime, the Department will cover it up and in the rare event that officer does get convicted he will be quietly released after "winning" his appeal....As far as contacting the FBI, good luck with that, personnel experience along with the late rebranding of the club, leads me to believe the FBI has better things to pretend to do. The FBI is no longer into "Law Enforcement" but is a counterterrorism club which, ironically by definition is dealing with local law enforcement, but they will disagree and take the grants, because their's big money in homeland security, few real enemies here at home, outside of local law enforcement.
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Feb 14, 2014
 
The FBI is the police of the police. They enforce federal laws as the local police do not have the power. Such as immigration, counterfeiting, human rights, terrorism, etc.

Personal property is generally considered private property that is movable
They both are protected by federal law. Real property is real estate.
A fine is a tax and does not fix the problem of taking people's rights. Fines are not an equal punishment. Government uses the media to put out propaganda because government can not enforce the laws so it uses fear and lies. All states have submitted to taking federal tax money to control their behavior. Just as income tax is used to control personal behavior because they can not make laws that are against your rights.
It comes down to people are naive enough through public schools to be slaves of the state.
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I don't see americans try to escape to other countries. We may have our faults, but we are still the greatest nation on earth. Go out and vote in November and let's try to improve things.
Apparently you have not noticed the amount of Americans moving to Canada, Mexico, Philippines, Costa Rica
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I do not recite the Pledge either as I am not an American, but a Mississippian under a forced union. Last time read the history book we withdrew and were forced back at gun point.
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I do not recite the Pledge either as I am not an American, but a Mississippian under a forced union. Last time read the history book we withdrew and were forced back at gun point.
Originally composed by Francis Bellamy in 1892 and formally adopted by Congress as the pledge in 1942.

The war between the states is over as MS takes more Federal money than anyone. Congress is a result of the voters and the voters have done a poor job, the result is what we have.
No one is forced to say the pledge and they also can trash the flag. That is our government given rights. The bigger problem is people are not even taking the responsibility for their own survival as they want a nanny government to force people to have beliefs and reward them with welfare.

“Uzi Does It”

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Feb 17, 2014
 
It was recently reported by Buckeye Firearms that an Ohio Sheriff has been indicted on 25 counts by a grand jury. Athens County Sheriff Pat Kelly is the same guy that refused to renew the license of many concealed carry permit holders for some very suspicious reasons.

Sheriff Kelly even refused to renew the handgun license rights of a man who had a 10-year-old domestic violence charge that was pleaded down to a conviction for disorderly conduct.

In order for you to qualify for a concealed carry permit in Ohio “you must not be under indictment, be charged with, or convicted of any felony. You also must not be under indictment, charged with, or convicted of any offense that involves trafficking in drugs, a misdemeanor offense of violence, or negligent assault.”

Now that the Sheriff has been indicted on 25 counts, including several felonies, it’s a tad ironic that he could have his own concealed carry permit refused.

- See more at: http://gunsnfreedom.com/ohio-sheriff-who-refu...
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mentul_autocrat wrote:
<quoted text> i love the "one nation under god" and people scream that this country wasn't founded on christian beliefs.
This country is founded on "We the People" not we the Jesus Christ. There is no mention of Jesus or god in the Constitution. The Founding Fathers were at best deists - check out the Jefferson bible. The inclusion of "under" god in the pledge since the 1950s is a violation of the first Amendment and is being challenged as is the god on the currency.
http://ffrf.org/legal/challenges/highlighted-...

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The primary purpose of modern 'law enforcement' is to protect private property...
That's a wrong answer.
Auntie Theist

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mentul_autocrat wrote:
<quoted text> i love the "one nation under god" and people scream that this country wasn't founded on christian beliefs.
This post is for the ignorant. "Under God" was added during the knee jerk reaction to communist "threats" in the 1950s. Here is the truth:
http://thedevilisindembooks.blogspot.com/2014...

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