High-speed rail: Brookfield residents...

High-speed rail: Brookfield residents meet tonight to talk about po...

There are 78 comments on the Fox6 story from Aug 17, 2010, titled High-speed rail: Brookfield residents meet tonight to talk about po.... In it, Fox6 reports that:

The Brookfield Common Council is meeting Monday evening to talk about the possibility of a passenger rail station being built in the city.

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Fedup

United States

#1 Aug 17, 2010
No train! No taxpayer goverment money! The jobs and what good things it will do for the economy are just more lies by you lefty loons! You will all be voted out!
Jim

Jackson, WI

#2 Aug 17, 2010
This will be a money pit if it goes through.
Is there a passenger train anywhere that has been
able to financially stand on it's own? As far as I
know they all are heavily subsidised.
This is the last thing we need to be spending
money on when our roads& bridges are falling apart.
Jeremy

Milwaukee, WI

#3 Aug 17, 2010
If we have a trainstop in Waukesha County does that mean that Waukesha County taxpayers will have to be part of the future taxes on this through a transit authority? It's enevitable if you join the transit system that the future tax will be yours. As a county resident that just moved out of Milwaukee for this very reason i do not want another service. I don't want a train. I don't want the tax. I moved to waukesha because I don't want these extra services and costs. Shoudln't this meeting include all county taxpayers and not just one community?
PR and Proud

Milwaukee, WI

#4 Aug 17, 2010
Do you know how many people from advanced cities which have solid train systems are moving into this area?

Milwaukee wants to keep Milwaukee small... as it always has... and good businesses keep leaving. Does that tell you something?

If there is nothing happening in Milwaukee, businesses don't want to be in Milwaukee.

The problem with this town is we tax for the craziest things. We cripple any sign of advancement. Milwaukee can't become another Detroit. We've got to move into the future... because the past is gone already.

If Talgo can help bring a working class back to this town, it will be good for the 'little guy'.

Jim, you're in Hartford. You've got the nice little quiet life you always dreamed of... let the people who want more have it.
David

Madison, WI

#5 Aug 17, 2010
Why don't they take the money for the propose high speed rail and use it for more practical means like trying to keep jobs from leaving Wisconsin.
no train tom

Waukesha, WI

#6 Aug 17, 2010
PR and Proud wrote:
Do you know how many people from advanced cities which have solid train systems are moving into this area?
Milwaukee wants to keep Milwaukee small... as it always has... and good businesses keep leaving. Does that tell you something?
If there is nothing happening in Milwaukee, businesses don't want to be in Milwaukee.
The problem with this town is we tax for the craziest things. We cripple any sign of advancement. Milwaukee can't become another Detroit. We've got to move into the future... because the past is gone already.
If Talgo can help bring a working class back to this town, it will be good for the 'little guy'.
Jim, you're in Hartford. You've got the nice little quiet life you always dreamed of... let the people who want more have it.
How many working class people can afford spending hundreds of dollars a week to ride this train???
Jim

Jackson, WI

#7 Aug 17, 2010
PR and Proud wrote:
Do you know how many people from advanced cities which have solid train systems are moving into this area?
Milwaukee wants to keep Milwaukee small... as it always has... and good businesses keep leaving. Does that tell you something?
If there is nothing happening in Milwaukee, businesses don't want to be in Milwaukee.
The problem with this town is we tax for the craziest things. We cripple any sign of advancement. Milwaukee can't become another Detroit. We've got to move into the future... because the past is gone already.
If Talgo can help bring a working class back to this town, it will be good for the 'little guy'.
Jim, you're in Hartford. You've got the nice little quiet life you always dreamed of... let the people who want more have it.
Milwaukee certainly does tax for the craziest things, they pretty much have to because
they can't stop finding ways to waste money! This is no exception and I suspect Milwaukee will be trying to get everyone else to chip in as usual.
Liberals like Doyle & Barrett tell us the majority will be paid for by the federal
goverment like that is free money. WE ALL PAY FOR THIS !
That is why even us " country boys " should have a say.
Joe Burgermeister

Kenosha, WI

#8 Aug 17, 2010
In the long run there is going to be high speed rail connecting all the major cities in the Midwest. Wisconsin should be shortsighted enough to not allow this. The Chicago to Minneapolis leg should go through Iowa. The Wisconsin State Motto should be "Backward", not "Forward".
Blazerbob

Campbellsport, WI

#9 Aug 17, 2010
The way I hear it Talgo will build the cars here with Talgo people then close up shot.
natrixgli

Cudahy, WI

#10 Aug 17, 2010
I can't believe how politicized this rail project has become. This is just the start of a bigger project of bringing the reality of an affordable, fast rail system to the United States like pretty much EVERY other developed country in the world enjoys.

It's a great investment in our future and the initial costs are paid already so there's no point bickering about it now.

Go to Europe or Japan some time and see how easy it is to cover large amounts of ground there for business or pleasure. Tell me then that you oppose that sort of convenience here in America.
John Doe

West Bend, WI

#11 Aug 17, 2010
The high speed rail system is all fine and dandy, If we had the money. There are so many crumbling roads in milwaukee that could use the stimulus money. It's going to be funny when they start to build it, then when Walker gets elected, he's going to tear it up and sell it for scrap.
AP in West Bend

West Bend, WI

#12 Aug 17, 2010
I also suggest people travel to Europe or even NY City to see what high speed rail is all about. I am a full supporter of this as a commuter option, bring it to Washington County too!
Gary

Trevor, WI

#13 Aug 18, 2010
I don't understand how people could want this. It's something along the lines of $100 for a roundtrip ticket. That's unrealistic, and only the most well off people can afford that, not the average joe.
TMA

Racine, WI

#14 Aug 18, 2010
So many people are out of work and jobs,but yet we they can spend that type of money on this??
Morons

Milwaukee, WI

#15 Aug 18, 2010
Hey you idiots, guess who has to build the rail?- Does that not create jobs? Oh and now you have a solid link between Milwaukee and Chicago...go get a job there now,@ 110mph it will take you 30 min of travel time.
By the way, this money is from federal funding so shut the f**k up.
Fat Idiots

Fort George G Meade, MD

#16 Aug 18, 2010
People that complain about the rail plan need to sit down and think about what they complain. This opportunity is giving WI the step-up to the future of which other states do not have. We have the ability to have a high speed rail line that will potentially alleviate the need for a car, thus the need for more roadways, therefore less pollution and congestion. Why take your car when you can confortably sit, read, sleep, sit at the bar, on your journey. Do you understand how much wasteful money is pumped into roads and the DOT for automobiles just so you can plump your fat butt into your SUV? All this while burning fuel on expensive concrete so no one can see the grease drip down your fat chin while you eat your burger? The DOT spends 10x the amount on the highway between Madison and MKE that the high speed rail line would spend. HSR is the first step, after this we'll have regional rail and suburban rail, as well as trams in the cities, all connecting each other. People will have to(I know how tough this'll be) get out and WALK to stations! We'll have to interact with other humans, I know, craziness. Cities will become denser with businesses popping up around the stations with beautiful parks and squares in place of all the ugly parking lots and giant roads that were built for the all-holy automobile. I am 100% conservative and I support this train, because I want to conserve the environment for my children. If you want something to complain about, demand an all electric line that actually goes at a high speed. You should want a better train than they propose. Sit down and think, not about yourself and your selfish desires, but what is best for the future.
NoNameCallingHer e

Sun Prairie, WI

#18 Aug 18, 2010
Supporters of this rail have clearly convinced themselves of how wonderful it will be to spend somebody elses money (since it's federal money it's not their money), started the name calling and profanity slinging (shut the f up???), and have figured out how to go to the grocery store on a train while relaxing in a bar car and get rid of roads while insulting people (Fat Idiots in the SUV's with food grease running down the chin). Well you fit the bill of the typical turtle rail supporter. Give us some logical proof of how this is a positive for us!

The train will do nothing but be a total waste of all our tax dollars for years to come. The cost alone to ride will make this not affordable for riders and to keep it going somebody has to pay the bill to run this back and forth between Milw and Mad. Who do you think is going to pay this money? Who? YOU and I. That's your money. You can not shop, go out to dinner, go to a ball game, go to school, etc. Because the train won't go there. We still need that road. Supporters claim this works in Japan. It is very small country and very concentrated. In works there because of those reasons. The US is spread out and we want the ability to be free to go where we want when we want.

Typical of every train supporter that I have encountered. Either you get mad and call names like 2 of you did, or your arguments have no clear and reasonable logic. There is no need for rail between Milw and Madison. Face it, your arguments won't hold water, and when you feel yourself losing to logic, you start insulting people. You need to get over your anger that your wrong and admit this will be the biggest waste of My and Your money that this administration (both fed and state) have come up with. It's spending money just to spend money. 50 rail jobs a year with a price tag of $10mil per year in tax dollars spent is not effective. Jobs will not be created on either end because of the prohibitive cost to commute. No business growth will occur around the stations. Proven by the fact that the Milw renovated train station has no businesses and the renovated Airport and Sturdevant stations have spawned zero development. Face it, rail make zero sense for WI, and the sooner you realize you are just angry instead of thinking clearly, the sooner we can start fixing the real problems. Get over it, because you are in the minority.
ProKenosha

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Aug 18, 2010
Could we put a pin in this high-speed rail until the roadways are safe?-Which before, during, and after would be the primary transportation choice of the area's citizens. Plus Milwaukee needs to double in size and Madison needs to triple to make this necessary.(I think Brookfield is fine with it's size as being a mid-point) The Amtrak to Chicago (which I use 6-8 times a year*) makes sense because of the city size, congestion of driving, and PARKING in Chicago (rare/expensive).

Also, once you arrive in Brookfield/Madison, unless you can walk from your station to your destination, you are still in need of transportation. Often times that would mean that you would need to spend on a rental (cabs/buses aren't always the answer). So strickly on a financial basis, would it be cheaper for me to take the train plus rent a car to visit someone just outside the city, or to take my own vehicle and pay the variable cost of gasoline?

*Taking the Amtrak to Chicago to goto a meeting at MillerCoors is great because it's right across from the train station. And it's way better than siting in traffic and paying $45 to park. But in Milwaukee and Madison we don't really have the congestion problem (yeah it crawls on 94 during rush hour, but it's not to the major-city level)

Thank you for reading my two-cents; sorry it got so long!

PS- Only my ISP is from MN, I'm from Kenosha/New Berlin.:)
Randy from Crivitz Wi

Tomah, WI

#20 Aug 18, 2010
Go ahead and build this. I can jump in my SUV (I need a SUV to get out of my driveway in the winter.) and drive to Madtown and get on this train and pay
$100 round trip to get to Mil. Sounds like somthing Washington would do.
PR and Proud

Milwaukee, WI

#21 Aug 19, 2010
no train tom wrote:
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How many working class people can afford spending hundreds of dollars a week to ride this train???
Talgo is already selling tickets?

Have you been outside the state? NYC? CHI? BOS?

Have you been to Europe, England notwithstanding?

It's not going to cost anyone that much money.

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