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joke of a company

Kenosha, WI

#1 Mar 16, 2010
They offered me manager position first thing, I laughed. Everyone is ten years old in the office and what a joke the company is. It is completely a scam and do not be a foolish person and believe what they say about income and benefits.
Curious

Baltimore, MD

#2 Mar 17, 2010
Did you recently have an interview w/the company? I'm interested in knowing more. Thanks.
Also curious

Milwaukee, WI

#3 Mar 18, 2010
I would also like to know if you had an interview and what all was covered during the interview? I have an interview with them on Monday and have been questioning what they exactly to there and would like to know if I'm not 'spinning my wheels.'
Curious

Baltimore, MD

#4 Mar 19, 2010
The initial interview is only 15 minutes just to "feel you out" and they don't tell you much or allow room for questions until and unless you're approved for a second interview. The second interview is an all-day interview in which you shadow an employee, get told the things you have to memorize for the quiz upon your return, and when it's all over, THEN you can ask questions about income, benefits, etc. You get a very low base pay, plus commissions per contract you get signed. They promise you advancement opportunity based on performance, with the potential of becoming manager and opening your own office within months. I'm skeptical.
Disapointed

Waunakee, WI

#5 Mar 30, 2010
This company is not what it seems. Although they have a pretty respectable website and a promising description, it was not what I expected. The all day job shadow I was on consisted of mapping out a particular area of a city and going unannounced business to business "looking over" phone billing statements to make sure that the companies had gotten the proper reduced rates (whether or not they actually had been offered these rates is something of a mystery). Many of the places were upset before we even had a chance to see their billing statements. It was a very upsetting day to say the least. As stated by curious above, they offer a very low base pay and are mostly based on commission. Not a bad group of people or overall atmosphere, but a very disappointing opportunity that just wasn't they way I would conduct that type of service.
LaceyA

Chicago, IL

#6 Apr 1, 2010
Can u elaborate on exactly how low the low base pay is? I have an interview tomorrow but I live 2 hrs away, would like to know if the trip is even worth it or if I'm wasting my time right off the bat. Thanks!
This company is not what it seems. Although they have a pretty respectable website and a promising description, it was not what I expected. The all day job shadow I was on consisted of mapping out a particular area of a city and going unannounced business to business "looking over" phone billing statements to make sure that the companies had gotten the proper reduced rates (whether or not they actually had been offered these rates is something of a mystery). Many of the places were upset before we even had a chance to see their billing statements. It was a very upsetting day to say the least. As stated by curious above, they offer a very low base pay and are mostly based on commission. Not a bad group of people or
overall atmosphere, but a very disappointing opportunity that just wasn't they way I would conduct that type of service.
Damon

Milwaukee, WI

#7 Apr 4, 2010
I had a second interview with them at ELS and what you do during that is basically job shadow for the full working day. They interview a lot of people because they're looking for the best people for the job. When I interviewed, there was a total of 40 people interviewing for the week along with me...myself and and another girl for the position. They do business to business sales for new customer acquisition for a fortune 500/100 company. I've been working there for almost a month and it's not a scam. They promote within, so if you're looking to be a manager right on the spot,it won't happen. Everyone starts from entry level. It's probably the most fun job I've ever had, but it requires hard work. If you're looking for a chance to move up in a company and looking for a team environment, then this is definitely the place to come to.
job hunter

Kenosha, WI

#8 Apr 5, 2010
Well nobody has still said what the base pay is exactly....
Damon wrote:
I had a second interview with them at ELS and what you do during that is basically job shadow for the full working day. They interview a lot of people because they're looking for the best people for the job. When I interviewed, there was a total of 40 people interviewing for the week along with me...myself and and another girl for the position. They do business to business sales for new customer acquisition for a fortune 500/100 company. I've been working there for almost a month and it's not a scam. They promote within, so if you're looking to be a manager right on the spot,it won't happen. Everyone starts from entry level. It's probably the most fun job I've ever had, but it requires hard work. If you're looking for a chance to move up in a company and looking for a team environment, then this is definitely the place to come to.
job hunter

Kenosha, WI

#9 Apr 5, 2010
What exactly does the "entry level" job consist of and what is the base pay?
Montu

Portage, WI

#10 Apr 7, 2010
Again, please can someone explain what the "Low base pay" actually is. It seams that they are agressivly trying to hire and have over 40 job posting on popular career web sites.

If this is a scam the public needs to know before countless unemployed workers waste time and money tring to secure legit employment.
Job hunter

Milwaukee, WI

#11 Apr 17, 2010
Disclosure... This is a Cydcor affiliate. All Cydcor affiliate managers are ICL's, basically franchise offices. They create a downchain, and the ICL's can have smaller ICL's under themselves.
The job is not for the ethical person at heart. You can become a manager (All ICL's went through this process), but the odds are 1 in 1000 or worse.(You need to work hard, use controversial techniques, and have lots of luck). You are more likely to end up in debt than to get the managers posltion
Had Interviews

Milwaukee, WI

#12 Apr 26, 2010
I have been through the entire interview process.

The company is a joke. Do NOT waste your time if you have ANY sort of schooling beyond high school. I was offered the position,(as will anyone whom wants to).

You are a door to door salesman with a suit, paid $300 base salary per week + benefits. You have to either be extremely lucky or be a pencil pusher and scum to make any money.

Put it this way, during your 2nd interview (full-day shadow) they take you to a fast food restaurant to discuss "benefits" and then you pay for your OWN meal. I'll follow this topic to help out as much as possible, feel free to ask questions.
Wondering

Allendale, MI

#13 Apr 28, 2010
Lacey A, did you go through with it? What was the outcome?
Is there anyone else out there that actually works for them currently that can shed some light on what employment with ELS is like?
Still Wondering

Allendale, MI

#14 Apr 28, 2010
Also...what are you actually selling? The website is so vague.
Samm in Kenosha

Kenosha, WI

#15 Apr 28, 2010
I have an interview for tomorrow morning, after reading your posts, I'm not sure I want to waste my time. Has anyone gone farther than the second interview shadow thing? Are you even paid for that day? Is the base salary even if you don't sell at first?? How's the support for new crews?
Sales Professional

Milwaukee, WI

#16 May 6, 2010
Here is a copy of the letter that I sent out to Lindsay

Lindsay:

As the HR Director for ELS Advantage, I am somewhat disappointed in you and your organization. I had recently applied for a position with your firm and after my initial 15 minute interview I have heard nothing back from you. To me this is rather impersonal and does not place you in a high echelon of top employers. While I personally do not think that I was a good fit for your opening due to the fact that you are/were looking for entry level sales and I have had over twenty five years of professional sales experience; it would be common courtesy to first acknowledge that I came in to see you and secondarily to mention that other candidates were a better fit. Perhaps this can serve as an object lesson in proper business etiquette and is something that you can learn from and act upon in your future hiring decisions.

Respectfully
saki

Chicago, IL

#17 May 17, 2010
http://www.ripoffreport.com/Employers/Katin-I...

Same company, same location, same scam, different name.
panka

Milwaukee, WI

#18 May 17, 2010
Hey,Can one help me figuring out if these positions are open for Account Representative?And does it include door-to-door selling?
Katrina

Milwaukee, WI

#19 May 17, 2010
panka wrote:
Hey,Can one help me figuring out if these positions are open for Account Representative?And does it include door-to-door selling?
They offered me the same thing, I believe it is door to door, based off of commissions, unless you like that thing take, i am not.
1st Interview

Burlington, WI

#20 May 27, 2010
joke of a company wrote:
They offered me manager position first thing, I laughed. Everyone is ten years old in the office and what a joke the company is. It is completely a scam and do not be a foolish person and believe what they say about income and benefits.
I agree with the comment above and other comments posted. I had my 1st interview today and the office alone is suspect. They seem nice, but nice does not = job security, pay, ethical work, etc. Way too vague to be trusted.

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