Who do you support for Governor in Oh...

Since: Aug 12

Lithonia, GA

#26042 Feb 25, 2014
Canton wrote:
The only people I have ever known to get an abortion were wealthy, young Christian Republicans that didn't want their entire education and their careers shut down by an unwanted child. This I know first hand, because one of them was my cousin. How many abortions were due to small town church communities, and the absolute shun they would place on the upstanding, Christian families who had a young, pregnant unmarried daughter? If it's the Democrats that are so willing to get an abortion, then why has the abortion rate dropped 13% under Obama?
You don't know any black people do ya? If you ever saw any statistics you'd know your so full of shitt its shooting out your nose.
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#26043 Feb 25, 2014
UdintBuildThat wrote:
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You don't know any black people do ya? If you ever saw any statistics you'd know your so full of shitt its shooting out your nose.
Statistics show that teenage pregnancy drops dramatically after 20.

If a seagull brings a white baby and a crow brings a black baby, what brings no baby?
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#26044 Feb 25, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Statistics show that teenage pregnancy drops dramatically after 20.
If a seagull brings a white baby and a crow brings a black baby, what brings no baby?
your answer is abortion.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26045 Feb 25, 2014
UdintBuildThat wrote:
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You don't know any black people do ya? If you ever saw any statistics you'd know your so full of shitt its shooting out your nose.
Interesting that you have so readily available, on the tip of your tongue, the statistics on abortion in the black community. I know many black people but don't often find myself randomly blurting out questions like whether or not they have had an abortion. I am sure though, that like you stated, the statistics would completely nullify any idea that Christians may look down on unwed, young pregnant women. I know. Let's ask the Muslims, gays, or atheists how they feel about Christians never looking down on any group of people.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26046 Feb 25, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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your answer is abortion.
If all of the abortions suddenly stopped in this country, I wonder if any particular group would cry the loudest over having to help contribute as a society to those children's upbringing? I just can't put my finger on who that group might be, but I am willing to bet if you took your finger and pointed it directly at your chest, it would suddenly reveal the answer to that question.
woo-boy

Van Wert, OH

#26047 Feb 25, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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your answer is abortion.
Not even close, but it's a shame, no, a crying shame it didn't happen to you. It's called a SWALLOW.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26048 Feb 25, 2014
joanna50 wrote:
Perhaps concentrate on the similarities instead of the differences.
But if we did that, how would Fox News and MSNBC make any money off of dividing this nation? If that were to happen, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Rachael Maddow would shrivel up and blow away in the wind. If the people of this country stood united, then the politicians we elect on both sides of the fence would actually have to do their jobs. The American workers wouldn't have to scratch and claw just to exist in this world and we wouldn't be hearing things like how Vladimir Putin is a "Conservative Hero". Perhaps if we traced back to what it was that so drastically divided this country, it would lead us to GW Bush and a war in Iraq. Some of us weren't waving our flags and quoting our Bibles when we attacked the wrong country, based on false information.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26049 Feb 25, 2014
I wish that the Conservatives would look up who pays the Tea Party candidates and what is motivating them on issues like climate change or labor in this country. Like the GOP, corporations realized what easy pickings the religious right was to cash in on pushing forward their agenda. The real reason why the Tea Party Republicans in Congress are so against health care reform is due to the fact that many American workers, who are stuck in low paying, crappy jobs for the sole reason of getting health care coverage for their family, could tell the "job creators" to stick it up their @ss. There is a reason why the oil industry has spent millions to refute climate change and why their agenda ends up coming out of the mouths of the religious right. It is scary to think that those same corporations have taken over the EPA in this country. Look it up.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26050 Feb 25, 2014
In June 2005, a memo revealed that Philip Cooney, former chief of staff for the White House Council on Environmental Quality, and former lobbyist for the American Petroleum Institute, had personally edited documents, summarizing government research on climate change, before their release. Cooney resigned two days after the memo was published in The New York Times. Cooney said he had been planning to resign for over two years, implying the timing of his resignation was just a coincidence. Specifically, he said he had planned to resign to "spend time with his family." One week after resigning he took a job at Exxon Mobil in their public affairs department.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#26051 Feb 25, 2014
Canton wrote:
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If all of the abortions suddenly stopped in this country, I wonder if any particular group would cry the loudest over having to help contribute as a society to those children's upbringing? I just can't put my finger on who that group might be, but I am willing to bet if you took your finger and pointed it directly at your chest, it would suddenly reveal the answer to that question.
why wonder when you can read history?

why point fingers when you will plainly see? Problem is what you see will be 180 degrees from your above post.

and speaking about upbringing....... we abort a million a year, as in comparison to 20 million illegal aliens. That is 20 years of abortions. How many refugee Somalians?

We can up-bring that, but not our own children?

End all illegal alien and refugee government payments, and use it for unwanted children. Maybe the kid will do what the kid's parents failed at.

the loudest criers are the same as always.....no change.

wolf has been screamed for 50 years, and nothing has changed with % of population in poverty.

read history.

Since: Jan 13

Lexington, KY

#26052 Feb 25, 2014
Canton wrote:
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But if we did that, how would Fox News and MSNBC make any money off of dividing this nation? If that were to happen, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Rachael Maddow would shrivel up and blow away in the wind. If the people of this country stood united, then the politicians we elect on both sides of the fence would actually have to do their jobs. The American workers wouldn't have to scratch and claw just to exist in this world and we wouldn't be hearing things like how Vladimir Putin is a "Conservative Hero". Perhaps if we traced back to what it was that so drastically divided this country, it would lead us to GW Bush and a war in Iraq. Some of us weren't waving our flags and quoting our Bibles when we attacked the wrong country, based on false information.
Well a girl can dream cant she.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26053 Feb 25, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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why wonder when you can read history?
why point fingers when you will plainly see? Problem is what you see will be 180 degrees from your above post.
and speaking about upbringing....... we abort a million a year, as in comparison to 20 million illegal aliens. That is 20 years of abortions. How many refugee Somalians?
We can up-bring that, but not our own children?
End all illegal alien and refugee government payments, and use it for unwanted children. Maybe the kid will do what the kid's parents failed at.
the loudest criers are the same as always.....no change.
wolf has been screamed for 50 years, and nothing has changed with % of population in poverty.
read history.
I guess I could look up the nonexistent records of what would happen if all the abortions in this country magically stopped, but then I'm not an idiot so we'll just skip over that one. As far as you somehow linking Somalian refugees with lumps of cells and a woman's choice to keep a child, it is a stretch to say the least and let me remind you that this country was built by people who fled their country of origin. For you to refer to the immigrants that come to this nation as "that", speaks volumes on your true feelings on the matter. In this mostly Christian nation, when the Conservative Right had a majority in the Supreme Court and in Washington, and "God's President" GW Bush was in office, abortion was still legal. Not only that, but a person would have to be pretty dense not to realize that women would just travel to Canada or Mexico if it were made illegal. So basically, since we all know it's not going anywhere, anytime soon, all you and yours are really accomplishing in your stand against abortion is to pat yourselves on the back, and to absurdly tell each other how somehow you are the true and only interpreters of a divine and unseen being's will.

The "loudest criers" about illegal aliens are the same Republican "Job Creators" who have been paying their bills for the last 30 years or so and who have been cashing in on all that under the table, cheap labor. If parent's are suck failures in this country, then it needs to be laid directly at the feet of the overwhelming Christian majority in this country, who have had their hands on the steering wheel of this nation since the 50s.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26054 Feb 25, 2014
joanna50 wrote:
<quoted text>Well a girl can dream cant she.
I could say you're a dreamer, but you're not the only one...
Canton

Canton, OH

#26055 Feb 25, 2014
•37% of women obtaining abortions identify themselves as Protestant, and 28% identify themselves as Catholic

Gee, at least 65% of all abortions are done by Christian women. Boy, you guys really cleaned my clock on that one. How absurd of me to suggest that young women fear being shunned by their Christian communities for being unwed mothers, considering the overwhelming majority of women doing it are Christian. I wonder if the 10% drop in people who identify themselves as Christian in this country, has anything to do with the 13% drop in the abortion rate?
Canton

Canton, OH

#26056 Feb 25, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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why wonder when you can read history?
why point fingers when you will plainly see? Problem is what you see will be 180 degrees from your above post.
and speaking about upbringing....... we abort a million a year, as in comparison to 20 million illegal aliens. That is 20 years of abortions. How many refugee Somalians?
We can up-bring that, but not our own children?
End all illegal alien and refugee government payments, and use it for unwanted children. Maybe the kid will do what the kid's parents failed at.
the loudest criers are the same as always.....no change.
wolf has been screamed for 50 years, and nothing has changed with % of population in poverty.
read history.
"We can up-bring that, but not our own children?"

Give us an example of how the Liberals stopped you from raising your children?

Since: Jan 13

Lexington, KY

#26057 Feb 25, 2014
Canton wrote:
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I could say you're a dreamer, but you're not the only one...
Well played
Canton

Canton, OH

#26058 Feb 25, 2014
Gale Norton
Secretary of the Department of Interior (2001-2006)
• Closely linked to Abramoff.
• Joined Shell Oil immediately after leaving DOI.
• Currently under federal investigation for discussing employment with Shell Oil while she was still DOI Secretary.

Gale Norton served as the Secretary of the Department of Interior from 2001 to 2006, at the height of Jack Abramoff’s influence. At the beginning of his administration, President Bush suspended many of Clinton’s late-term executive orders regarding the environment. One environmentalist called Gale Norton “James Watt in a skirt.” Abramoff clients contributed about $500,000 to Council of Republicans for Environmental Advocacy (CREA), an organization that she created with Grover Norquist and Italia Federici. After taking office, Norton would make a succession of decisions in favor of Abramoff’s Indian casino clients. After resigning from DOI in 2006, Norton joined Royal Dutch Shell – a company that she regularly dealt with in her position as DOI secretary. Under the Obama administration, Norton was subpoenaed by a grand jury for holding discussions with Shell about employment while in the role of DOI Secretary. Under her watch, DOI granted Shell three oil shale releases on federal land, worth as much as hundred of billions.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26059 Feb 25, 2014
Read along with me XXXrayted and all he folks that think they came up with the idea that climate change doesn't exist, all on their own...

Secretary of the Department of Interior (2006-2009)
• Selected by Bush for his willingness to push increased oil & gas drilling.
• Policies had a crippling effect on the Endangered Species Act.

Dirk Kempthorne served as Norton’s successor as DOI Secretary from 2006 to 2009. Kempthorne was chosen by President Bush to replace Gale Norton as DOI Secretary specifically with the intention of pushing for increased oil and gas drilling in 2006. Under the Kempthorne-managed DOI, federal agencies were no longer required to submit plans to the Fish and Wildlife Service or the National Marine Fisheries Service. This, wrote The New York Times, led to dangerous “self-consultation” for agencies with very different priorities. According to Kempthorne, the Endangered Species Act “was never intended to be a back door opportunity for climate change policy.” Asked to defend such a change weeks before President Obama was to be sworn in, Kempthorne responded,“we have 39 days of work left.” In the months leading up to the decision, record numbers of polar bears were seen swimming in open water off of the coast of Alaska. Prior to joining the Bush administration, Kempthorne’s political career was largely funded by timber, mining and energy contributions:$86,000 in total, or 8% of his entire campaign war chest.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26060 Feb 25, 2014
J. Steven Griles
Deputy Secretary of the Department of Interior (2001-2004)
• Former coal lobbyist.
• Highest ranking member of the Bush administration to be sent to prison during Abramoff scandal.
• Romantically linked to two women in DOI, both involved in scandals.

J. Steven Griles served as Deputy Secretary of the Interior from 2001 until resigning in 2004. In 2004, the DOI’s own inspector general called Griles a “train wreck waiting to happen.” Prior to joining the Bush administration, Griles was a coal industry lobbyist. Griles was the highest ranking member of the Bush administration to be sent to prison during the Abramoff scandal. He was sentenced to a ten months imprisonment after pleading guilty to obstruction of justice. Days after his guilty plea, he would marry his DOI subordinate Sue Ellen Wooldridge, who was part of an ethics scandal involving the purchase of a home with ConocoPhillips lobbyist. Prior to joining the Bush administration, Griles served in the Reagan administration’s DOI then became a coal industry lobbyist with National Environmental Strategies, Inc. Griles continued receiving payment of $284,000 a year from the coal lobbying firm as he served as DOI Deputy Secretary. While at the DOI, he arranged multiple meetings with former oil and gas industry clients and even awarded $2 million in federal contracts to a former client. Griles advised Jack Abramoff on using members of Congress to pressure the DOI and gave him information on internal decision making within the agency. Before his conviction, Griles left the White House to become a lobbyist for ConocoPhillips.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26061 Feb 25, 2014
Sue Ellen Wooldridge
Deputy Chief of Staff for Sec. Gale Norton
• Purchased $980,000 home with J. Steven Griles and a ConocoPhillips lobbyist.
• Delayed $500 million pollution cleanup for ConocoPhillips.

Sue Ellen Wooldridge was the Deputy Chief of Staff for DOI Secretary Gale Norton. During her time at DOI where she provided the agency with ethics advice, Wooldridge became romantically involved with J. Steven Griles. Wooldridge went on to the Department of Justice as an attorney in charge of environmental and natural resources. Wooldridge and her romantic partner and once-superior Griles purchased a $980,000 home in March 2006 in South Carolina along with a third buyer: Don R. Duncan, a lobbyist for ConoPhillips. Less than a year after the three purchased the home, Wooldridge delayed $500 million pollution cleanup of a superfund site run by ConocoPhillips. Three days after Griles plead guilty, Wooldridge and he were married.

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