Family Asked To Pay For Guardrail After Son's Death | Ohio News Network (ONN)

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Earl and Mildred Mathis lost their son in March, when he crashed into a guardrail and was decapitated.
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dave your an idiot. do us all a favor and stop sucking up our oxygen.
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2 cents wrote:
dave your an idiot. do us all a favor and stop sucking up our oxygen.
sorry the guy died, but if he had insurance, it would have been paid for...why should we pay for it as tax payers??
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Nov 12, 2010
 
He had to have been driving like a crazy man to die like that there. I feel bad his parents have to foot the bill, though. He should have had some sort of insurance so if you do die under these circumstances your loved ones aren't left to pay it.
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If his parents are in their 70" I think its a safe bet he was an adult, Therfore I dont think its his parents responsibility that he did not have insurance.
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mpooh wrote:
If his parents are in their 70" I think its a safe bet he was an adult, Therfore I dont think its his parents responsibility that he did not have insurance.
Next of kin, I believe. If someone has something to settle with your estate after you pass, it becomes their responsibility. Someone correct me if that isn't how it is.
I see stupid people

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If he did not have insurance then he legally was not allowed to drive. Was he driving a car owned by his parents? If so they should be responsible for the bill, not the taxpayers. As far as suing ODOT, what the heck for? Their son damaged a guardrail owned by ODOT and the taxpayers of Ohio, he should be responsible for the cost whether he died or not. Sorry for your loss, but just because your son was killed in a crash that was his own fault does not give the right to walk away from the monetary damages.
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dave your an idiot. do us all a favor and stop sucking up our oxygen.
So what you are saying is if your kid was driving without insurance and tore up somebody elses property and died doing it,you would not pay because he died,right?WRONG!!!!
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I can't believe what people are writing here. It just shows you how greedy our world is. The fact is they lost a son no matter how old he was and regardless of if he had insurance. I think someone should look into how ridiculous that it is of odot to even ask for these parents to pay this. If i was the parents I would ignore the bill and if they kept sending it i would tell them where to stick it. As for everyone else posting comments about the parents having to pay the bill grow up and get a clue.
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cstealers wrote:
I can't believe what people are writing here. It just shows you how greedy our world is. The fact is they lost a son no matter how old he was and regardless of if he had insurance. I think someone should look into how ridiculous that it is of odot to even ask for these parents to pay this. If i was the parents I would ignore the bill and if they kept sending it i would tell them where to stick it. As for everyone else posting comments about the parents having to pay the bill grow up and get a clue.
so lets say, for argument sake, if he hit another car and damaged that persons car, should that person have to pay for the damage he caused...?? I think not, sorry the guy died, but everyone is responsible for what they do in life, good or BAD! It was selfish of him to not have insurance and if something happened to him, who did he think would pay for it??...that is why everyone should have insurance, especially burial insurance...why make your loved ones pay for something after you have died, especially if they are broke...not fair, you just never know
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If these people are in their 70's, then I assume their son was an adult over 18. If he had no insurance or any money in his estate then the matter is closed. People are not responsible for the debts of deceased relatives. These folks should tell ODOT to go pound sand and contact their state representative about getting these government goofs off of their backs.
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dave wrote:
pay the bill....your son crashed into it and tore it up.... now pay up...was he also driving around without car insurance?
If you are so worried about it why don't you pay it.
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As an adult, the son was responsible for damages, etc. If he had no estate, why should his elderly parents pay for anything (they wouldn't be liable for credit card bills, etc. unless they were cosigners)? So much money is wasted,$800+ is a drop in the bucket for ODOT but not for this elderly couple. If the damage was $500 or less, ODOT said they would not have requested payment. Let it go and let this family move on after the terrible loss of their son (it doesn't matter whether he was at fault or not; it was a terrible thing to happen). I'm sure all the McNastys would make a stink if they received a bill like that and say they were not responsible.
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He did the damage and needs to be billed, which is typical and standard practices, so unless the estate claims and proves the poor roads or someone else caused the accident, the estate is on the hook for the bill. If there were no estate assets, then the estate will need file that they have no money to pay the claims, so the burden is not unfairly placed on the other grandmother and young adult taxpayers. It is a terrible tragic loss and sad all around.
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Reader 10 wrote:
If these people are in their 70's, then I assume their son was an adult over 18. If he had no insurance or any money in his estate then the matter is closed. People are not responsible for the debts of deceased relatives. These folks should tell ODOT to go pound sand and contact their state representative about getting these government goofs off of their backs.
"When somebody dies, how can they pay?" Earl Mathis said. "He didn't have insurance. He didn't have a bank account and he was just living day to day."
If he was living day to day, chances are it was his parents car. ODOT will send the bill to the registered owner of the car and it is their responsibility to pay for damages resulting from the use of their uninsured vehicle. If the car was insured then the insurance company would pay the bill.
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My point is its not his parent responsbilty to pay ,then we pay state taxes for road work so I think that would come under taxes already paid by the people living in Ohio
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Frank wrote:
<quoted text>So what you are saying is if your kid was driving without insurance and tore up somebody elses property and died doing it,you would not pay because he died,right?WRONG!!!!
Frank, you are mistaken. A debtor, creditor, etc. can make a claim against an estate, but the next of kin doesn't inherit debt. Examples:

1. Person dies in a car wreck like this and he is a lien on the car. The lien holder collects insurance (if there is any) and can make a claim against the estate for anything else that might be due. If he estate is insolvent, the lien holder is out of luck.

2. Person dies in a hospital after racking up a bill. Hospital can bill insurance and try to collect from estate. If there's no money, them hospital is out of lick.

3. Credit cards are the same way assuming thy aren't joint accounts. That's why the insurance the CC companies sell is a scam.
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All you people on here saying all these hurtful comments to these people is awful. I am sure ODOT has the money to pay it, they waste enough money anyways. Besides this guy died isn't that enough for you people? Also you dont know a thing about why this guy didn't have insurance, maybe he lost his job last year or something. Obviously you rude people on here have never been on hard times before or I think you would shut your mouth. And dont give me that taxpayers bullshit.....ohio wastes enough money also. If you would think that this is wasting money that is your cold heart thinking that. I would rather waste tax money on helping someone, then giving goverment workers a raise because that is where most of your tax money goes into the pockets of greedy goverment workers and elected officials!
R U SERIOUS

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mpooh wrote:
If his parents are in their 70" I think its a safe bet he was an adult, Therfore I dont think its his parents responsibility that he did not have insurance.
MY EXACT SENTIMENTS!!!

Why should his parents be responsible for HIS fatal accident. Like they said, the guy didn't have insurance, therefore, I doubt he has an estate that would be willing to pay the claim.

ODOT needs to just take this on the chin and chalk up the loss.
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The family does not have to pay the bill since they did not cause the damage, ODOT needs to go after the dead person who did the damage, or his estate. They cannot hold others responsable for what someone else did. Heck anyhow if it was a illegal alien I bet ODOT would not say a thing. Besides if $500.00 and under is not billed why don't they just bill the difference between the cost minus the $500.00? If one of my family members did something they cannot hold me responsable for it.
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SooperFunky wrote:
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Next of kin, I believe. If someone has something to settle with your estate after you pass, it becomes their responsibility. Someone correct me if that isn't how it is.
Only the executor of the estate can "dibby" out funds to SECURED creditors FIRST and then any other claims can be paid after. BUT, there is absolutely NO familial obligation (only moral) to pay for your deceased loved one's final expenses.

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