Facing a worsening nurse shortage, schools lack resources to graduate more

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A construction worker, a medical secretary, a computer programmer, a firefighter and a pharmaceutical salesman all have something in common - they want to be nurses...

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JAM

Indianapolis, IN

#21 May 13, 2008
Don Joe wrote:
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Although I agree with most of what you say, many young people don't bother with education to become engineers for example because even if they did, there would probably be no jobs for them anyway. They they would have to pay outrageous sums for that education from the meager wages they get at fast food service.
Precisely. I did myself what I thought was a favor, and went to one of those vo-tech schools to learn medical coding. After $8000, which will be $11000 before the student loan is paid off, the only ICD-9 codes I see are the ones that come on the orders I look at when I REGISTER PATIENTS for MRI's, CT's, and US's. It was the only job available that I could take to MAYBE start earning a better living and eventually start paying back that loan, but it sure isn't $15/hr as a coder.

These Vo-Tech schools need to lose some of their accreditations because they're allowed to LIE about what they can help you accomplish in a short period of time. Where I went to school, the only thing necessary to qualify to GO to that school was a pulse and the ability to sign your name on a dotted line. If you can get student loans, forget it, they'll take you! Doesn't matter if you are able to sit still long enough to get through a class or keep your mouth shut for awhile so someone else can learn! They don't even require APTITUDE. Just come on in and you, too, will be able to earn $18/hr as a coder. Yea, right. The ironic thing is that I probably could, but by the time I get my CPC certification through the AAPC or AHIMA, I'll be an old woman. And even THEN, I'll be fighting the hundreds of other (younger)applicants to these kinds of jobs.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#22 May 13, 2008
It is a crime what has happened to nursing, but there is much balony being thrown her.

We have always had nurses from foreign lands in ht e US.

German and Irish nurses have set the standards in American nursing for years.

We have had both filipino and Jamaican nurses practicing for decades here. They are wondrful and caring nurses

The real problem, as I see it, is the hospitals, and insurance companies. The hospitals just do not want to payt full time nurses, They fill their schedules with per-diems, who have no ownership relationship with their floors and stations, or lower oders of health workers they can pay less..

The insurance copanies are dictating funding, and will not value the necessary quality nursing brings to health care. So, we see fewer and fewer RN's practicing full-time nursing. Many basic taske are done by lower order nurses, or aides.

Needless to say, the doctors still have not gotten over themselves.

Other true strains here are that nurses do less. Part of that is because of the way their work is structured, Many nurses are on an up-escalator, and actually expect to work behind a desk, and not get their shoes bloody.

Love to all nurses.
disgusted RN

Willingboro, NJ

#23 Jun 19, 2008
In case no one noticed .Most decent paying jobs are gone from this country thanks to globalization. liveable wage seekers do not make good nurses and quickly quit or are out of the profession asap.Nursing is hard work and the profession no longer enjoys the respect it once had.
melissaplexy

Cohasset, MA

#24 Jul 14, 2008
Peaty wrote:
The nursing schools pass you if you are young, look good in clinical, and have a movie star smile. Good grades, maturity ( age -54), patient skills/compassion, and intelligence have no bearing on the outcome.
Not so......nursing schools do not just pass you. Because of the shortage of nursing professors, students with high GPA's compete for positions in clinical training where the ratio of students applying is 4x the number of positions. The pre-med classes are rigorous and must be completed with high scores to apply. I attend a 4 year state college and they are not pumping out ill-trained nurses. Of course, compassion can not be easily tested and if you have none you don't belong in this profession. I have not stood beside a student that was not intelligent and compassionate.....perhaps you should research this subject further before you make insulting remarks.

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