New York Primary Election Sept 14: Wi...

New York Primary Election Sept 14: Will you vote?

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really

Burbank, CA

#10959 Sep 23, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
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Wow - you can sustain a tantrum longer than any 6-year-old I know.
1) You have no clue what my view on tax rates is. It so happens I favor a flat tax, with every American above the poverty line paying the same flat tax rate on income, regardless of income. I want a 1-page federal tax return: Line 1 - how much did you make? Line 2 - Take 17% of that. Line 3 - Send it in. No deductions, no loopholes - AT EITHER END OF THE INCOME SPECTRUM. The whole Tax Code should not take more than 20 pages.
2) The "rich" don't pay a different tax rate than the rest of us. That's class warrior bullsh!t. Yes, Capital Gains are taxed at a different rate than ordinary income. Serfdom is voluntary in America - any American with $50, rich or not rich, can buy shares in Exxon Mobil on a DRIP plan. Only fools choosing serfdom do not.
3) There are good reasons for treating capital gains income differently than ordinary income for taxation purposes. Investors put capital at risk of total loss of their investment - wage earners do not take such risks. The nation needs capital - if capital is not rewarded or if returns on capital are taxed excessively RELATIVE TO OTHER NATIONS, it flows out of the US, and ALL AMERICANS LOSE. Rant your class warrior rants all you like - but that's the hard reality.
Get over it.
1: how are you republican? The whole premise of the republican argument right now, is they will not raise the tax rate of the upper class to match that of every other class and specifically will not entertain the concept of a flat tax...

2:the rich do pay a different tax rate than the rest of us, thats the entire point of tax brackets. And more than that, depending on income the higher earners get larger tax breaks. Under the paul ryan plan, the 6 tax brackets are removed to just two, High or low income earners, and high income earners receive a much larger tax break and lower tax rates than they currently have (dropping their tax rates by 10% and giving an additional $170,000 tax cut to the upper 20% while taking $159 more from lower income earners) To say that the rich don't pay a different rate...is just ignorant or stupidity...

3: I actually agree with you, however the current system for capital gains needs to be highly reformed
Geoff

Phoenix, AZ

#10961 Sep 23, 2012
Really wrote:
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Yea no one died cuz of his taxes, just the thousands that died in iraq when paul ryan voted to enter and extend or the thousands of chinese day laborers that died in factorys that mitt romney bought...just those
I know you liberals will be voting for Obama....as that will be a HUGE MISTAKE!!!!! do the right thing and vote for Romney/Ryan.....
Geoff

Phoenix, AZ

#10962 Sep 23, 2012
nac wrote:
Low blow, Teddy. I thought we all agreed to ignore any & all facts about fast & furious and just blame it on Bush.
Buckwheat did nothing to improve the economy and the obamacare thing is total BS.....vote Romney/Ryan....
really

Burbank, CA

#10963 Sep 23, 2012
Geoff wrote:
<quoted text>Buckwheat did nothing to improve the economy and the obamacare thing is total BS.....vote Romney/Ryan....
You know romney made obamacare and has recently stated he supports most sections, as well as wants to change the tax plan and economic plan back to the same tactics from the bush/bush sr/reagan era that caused our current economic situation, and also they want to remove rights for women/homosexuals while not enforcing any deportation rights on mexican americans right...
really

Burbank, CA

#10964 Sep 23, 2012
Geoff wrote:
<quoted text>I know you liberals will be voting for Obama....as that will be a HUGE MISTAKE!!!!! do the right thing and vote for Romney/Ryan.....
seeing that you were responding to the post about deaths:

you know romney is antagonizing libya, Iran, North Korea, and Russia which could potentially bring us into war that will hurt our economy even more right?
democrat

Massena, NY

#10965 Sep 23, 2012
really wrote:
<quoted text>
1: how are you republican? The whole premise of the republican argument right now, is they will not raise the tax rate of the upper class to match that of every other class and specifically will not entertain the concept of a flat tax...
2:the rich do pay a different tax rate than the rest of us, thats the entire point of tax brackets. And more than that, depending on income the higher earners get larger tax breaks. Under the paul ryan plan, the 6 tax brackets are removed to just two, High or low income earners, and high income earners receive a much larger tax break and lower tax rates than they currently have (dropping their tax rates by 10% and giving an additional $170,000 tax cut to the upper 20% while taking $159 more from lower income earners) To say that the rich don't pay a different rate...is just ignorant or stupidity...
3: I actually agree with you, however the current system for capital gains needs to be highly reformed
Really,don't be confusing teddy=peddy,you know as well as I do,he's both ignorant and stupid.He also does a pretty good job,at being a hypocrite.He calls people foul names,rages against anything that he doesn't agree with(see ACA decision),then has the temerity to accuse people of having tantrums.
Touche

Massena, NY

#10966 Sep 23, 2012
http://www.forkparty.com/25231/28-fabulous-dr...

Teddy R and friends relaxing.Can you guess which one is Teddy R
Democrat part II

Kirkville, NY

#10967 Sep 23, 2012
democrat wrote:
You damn right theirs class warfare and the rich are winning,that's according to Warren Buffet.When you see the huge transfer of weaLTH,thats happened in this country from 1980 on,only a rich ass sucker like you,thinks everything is okay.When billionaire hedge fund managers,pay a lower rate then working people do there's something wrong.When 1% of the people hold all the wealth and demand lower taxes as mittens is promising them,somethings wrong.Like I said,some of us don't want a plutocracy.As for risk,bull shit,nobody holds a gun to their head and makes them invest.They deduct their losses,and they should pay the same rate on their earnings as a worker does.Social engineering is all this is.They've got wanna-bes like you so brainwashed it's pathetic.Just look at mitts' return and see how he was able to manipulate the system,and get breaks,everyday americans can't,this is pure bullshit.Anyone that doesn't think the rich are waging class warfare against everyday Americans,is blind or a fool.Just look at the distibution of wealth in 1976 and now.Did regular Americans just become lazier,and the rich start working harder?No.The tax system was manipulated to make the rich richer at the expense of the rest of America.Get your head out of your ass,moron.Dimes to dollars,says you never came close to 40 grand a year.
I totally agree with you. It is those who are not making much money or were poor as children; those are the ones that buy into FOX news and will vote for Romney. I don't think they understand that they are being manipulated by very very very rich people. They own the network; they convince these poor souls that voting for republicans will help them financially. Really, the working poor will not be affected whether Romney or Obama win. It is the middle class that will be affected.
Geoff

Phoenix, AZ

#10968 Sep 23, 2012
really wrote:
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seeing that you were responding to the post about deaths:
you know romney is antagonizing libya, Iran, North Korea, and Russia which could potentially bring us into war that will hurt our economy even more right?
You're assuming.....but tell me what buckwheat has done good in office so far.....I can tell ya the US economy has worsened.....the US deficit at a screaming 16 trillion has worsened.....and obamcae is total bullshit....it helps out the illegals over US legal citizens......and Obama is all for the gay rights and gay marriages plus abortion......tell me something good about this clown......cause I strongly believe Obama is clearly the worst ever US President.....
democrat

Massena, NY

#10969 Sep 23, 2012
Democrat part II wrote:
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I totally agree with you. It is those who are not making much money or were poor as children; those are the ones that buy into FOX news and will vote for Romney. I don't think they understand that they are being manipulated by very very very rich people. They own the network; they convince these poor souls that voting for republicans will help them financially. Really, the working poor will not be affected whether Romney or Obama win. It is the middle class that will be affected.
It's good to know,some people realize what has happened and is happening to everyday Americans.The real TR,put in the estate tax,because he knew what the dangers of wealth concentration,could do to our democracy.
Honestly

Bainbridge, NY

#10970 Sep 23, 2012
Geoff wrote:
<quoted text>You're assuming.....but tell me what buckwheat has done good in office so far.....I can tell ya the US economy has worsened.....the US deficit at a screaming 16 trillion has worsened.....and obamcae is total bullshit....it helps out the illegals over US legal citizens......and Obama is all for the gay rights and gay marriages plus abortion......tell me something good about this clown......cause I strongly believe Obama is clearly the worst ever US President.....
Of course you do....

University Study: Fox Viewers More Misinformed

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/john-farr...

And just a suggestion for you - Never drink and post. It makes you look even more ignorant and misinformed.
Obama sux

Buffalo, NY

#10971 Sep 23, 2012
EDUCATE YOURSELF ON THE MAN WHO IS ABOUT TO BANKRUPT AND DESTROY AMERICA

The Amateur' and 'Crimes against liberty' by Edward Kline and it was awesome. I'm now on
Obama's America'and 'The roots of Obama's rage' by Dinesh D'Souza) and along with Edward Kline
shows all about Obama and his family. The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

That's something the liberal Democrats don't want you to see or read.

The movie 2016 Obama's America has set records for a political film. The Obama people are
fuming at the film and are telling critics to lie about the film and give it a thumbs down,
even though 80% of the people watching loved the movie. The other 20% must be Obama lovers.

And Gleen Becks book "Cowards"
Obama has spent more money than all the presidents from 1789-2000. Bush 2008 455 billion.

Obama 2009 1.41 trillion dollars. 2010 1.29 trillion. 2011 1.3 trillion. 2012 1.33 trillion
dollars. So liberals can say Bush spent a lot, 5 trillion dollars in 8 years. Obama has spent
over 5 trillion dollars in less than 4 years and will spend another 5 trillion from 2013-2017.

Our debt will be 21 trillion dollars which will be higher than our entire GDP. Is that what
Americans want for themselves, their children and grandchildren? A bankrupt 3rd world country.

That's what Obama wants. You can read it all in 'Obama's America' by Dinesh D'Souza. For real
Americans, the US military and veteran's this book is filled with the horror of Obama actions
now and in the future if Obama gets re-elected.
==========
OBAMA'S BASE

Okay, Obama has his 96% of racist blacks(black unemployment is double and Obama has done
nothing for them), 67% of Latinos, the majority of Jews, even though Obama has done nothing but
attack Israel, the stupid socialist indoctrinated college kids who have been brainwashed by
their liberal professors, the union stooges and workers who pay union dues that goes right into

Obama and the Democrats pockets, homosexuals, liberal women who are stupid enought to believe
there's a war on women and we must pay for their birth control, white guilt liberals and the
lowlife scum that leeches off the American taxpayers.
democrat

Massena, NY

#10972 Sep 23, 2012
Romney Blames Obama for His Campaign Challenges

By ASHLEY PARKER

DENVER — Mitt Romney, who has been criticized by members of his party in recent weeks for not campaigning aggressively enough and who trails President Obama in polls in most swing states, placed the blame for his campaign’s struggles squarely on the president himself Sunday afternoon.

Speaking to reporters as his private charter plane flew from Los Angeles to Denver, Mr. Romney blamed his relatively languid campaign schedule — five public events in the past seven days, compared with 11 fund-raisers — on the president’s decision to opt out of the federal campaign finance system four years ago, and criticized Mr. Obama for, he said,“trying to fool people into thinking that I think things I don’t.”

Asked why he was behind in the polls in most swing states, Mr. Romney accused the Obama campaign of distorting his record.
(poor,poor,mittens,it's all that darn Obamas' fault.)
democrat

Massena, NY

#10973 Sep 23, 2012
Obama sux,that was quite the racist rant.It's nice to know that people who won't vote the way you want them to,are just plain unamerican and bad.Same old stupid rants about unions,totally uninformed as to what unions really do and what they represent in America.But like the other fellow said,you probably shouldn't post after you have been drinking or doing drugs.
liberal

Selkirk, NY

#10974 Sep 23, 2012
Poor mitt is a victim.
just me

Utica, NY

#10975 Sep 23, 2012
Not a racist remark numbnuts. All democrats suck: black, brown, yellow, red and white. You vote urapeen socialism, I vote Republic. I don't care how you vote as long georgie soros puppet doesn't get re-elected. I not only despise whatever it is you people stand for, I also despise the messenger. I'm sick of spending millions to send the wife and children of chicago's village idiot on vacation. I wonder if America's Jews are still enamored with obama after his snub of one of our staunchest allies. I expect this dumbocrat jackass to throw Israel under the bus for his islamic brothers in Iran.
JesseSharptonWri ght

Stratford, CT

#10976 Sep 23, 2012
democrat wrote:
Obama sux,that was quite the racist rant.It's nice to know that people who won't vote the way you want them to,are just plain unamerican and bad.Same old stupid rants about unions,totally uninformed as to what unions really do and what they represent in America.But like the other fellow said,you probably shouldn't post after you have been drinking or doing drugs.
Your first 2 words are the only accurate ones.
democrat

Massena, NY

#10977 Sep 23, 2012
just me wrote:
Not a racist remark numbnuts. All democrats suck: black, brown, yellow, red and white. You vote urapeen socialism, I vote Republic. I don't care how you vote as long georgie soros puppet doesn't get re-elected. I not only despise whatever it is you people stand for, I also despise the messenger. I'm sick of spending millions to send the wife and children of chicago's village idiot on vacation. I wonder if America's Jews are still enamored with obama after his snub of one of our staunchest allies. I expect this dumbocrat jackass to throw Israel under the bus for his islamic brothers in Iran.
At least those "urapeen" socialist,don't ever have to chose between buying food or paying for needed medicine when sick.Healthcare is considered a right,and not just a matter of luck.As for Soros,what about the COCK(that's how its really pronounced)brothers and their machinations of the political system.Shrub had more then his share of vacations,now there's a real village idiot,hell old shrub was the national idiot.
democrat

Massena, NY

#10978 Sep 23, 2012
Obamasux,why make racist remarks,then deny them?Own it,you said it.If you are going to make stupid,hateful,racist rants,then own em.
really

Burbank, CA

#10979 Sep 23, 2012
Geoff wrote:
<quoted text>You're assuming.....but tell me what buckwheat has done good in office so far.....I can tell ya the US economy has worsened.....the US deficit at a screaming 16 trillion has worsened.....and obamcae is total bullshit....it helps out the illegals over US legal citizens......and Obama is all for the gay rights and gay marriages plus abortion......tell me something good about this clown......cause I strongly believe Obama is clearly the worst ever US President.....
your assuming obamacare is bullshit and your assuming gay rights/abortion is bad.

So you think obama is worse than bush? Please explain how?

As far as what obama has done? How about stopped the hemorrhaging of the job market and stabalized it, saved an entire industry in the US from going bankrupt, ended the war in iraq and set the end of Afghanistan, killed bin ladin, passed the lilly ledbetter fair pay act to help women achieve fair pay, and you named two other good things of supporting gay rights and the right for a woman to control her own body.

On the note of abortion, people who spout anti-abortion shit make me sick. Not because "omg abortion is amazing" cuz thats not true, but because they don't know jack shit of sociological mindset and impact about abortion.

First, abortion lowers the crime rate. Since Roe V Wade you can see a clear coorelation between the rise of abortion and the drop in crime rate. Through family planning, the bad households that produce criminals get diminished and actually preventing one pregnancy can prevent the shooting of three people so net gain for society.

Second, they don't understand why women have abortions. Women don't go every day to have abortion because they're lazy and sex craved. They go in rare cases when birth control fails, when they don't have birth control/contraception and then they get put on it, or the more common case of Rape, Incest, or Health concerns. Republicans want to make it so that if a woman is told she will die if she has her baby, she can't have an abortion. She has to wait until she dies. That is FUCKED UP. Maybe with birth control she can prevent it, but THEY WANT TO BLOCK THAT TOO.

Third, DEFINE LIFE. No one wants to sit down and decide when life begins. In fucking arizona they defined life begins two weeks BEFORE conception. THAT IS RETARDED. By that definition you should go to jail every time you masterbate or have your period. A seed is not a tree, and a 1 month zygote is not a baby. If you don't like it fine, BUT FUCKING DEFINE IT INTELLIGENTLY. DONT JUST THROW BLANKET TERMS AROUND LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT.

Sorry, I don't normally rant like that, but with the topic of abortion and "Pro-Lifers" who have killed in the name of their cause which defeats their purpose, I find it offensive that they can't make a single argument and instead they want to set up rules that defy common knowledge science and set death sentences or traumatic lives for mothers simply because they can't think outside of their retarded bubbles.

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