McCurtain Memorial Hospital
Outlaw

Sulphur, OK

#41 Oct 31, 2013
Bruce Willingham wrote:
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Believe me, the people you're referring to now know the mistakes that have been made. I was touched by hearing one of them admit his mistakes to hospital employees the other night. Can you please let them try to take a new direction? Once that's happened, we can blame people if we want. Right now, many people are working non-stop to turn things around. I honestly believe they will, but Mr. Messer, very appropriately named, almost dug them a hole so deep it could not be filled in time.
I think Mark Matloff was an unintended, but very, very angry angel. That may sound odd, but his bulldog attitude was the unrelated reason this came to public view, hopefully in time to turn things around. I optimistically don't think it was any accident, and actually feel blessed to have been there to see it happen first-hand and to report to you about it. Think what you will. I hope for the best, pray for the best, and believe it will happen. I am (proudly) one of five members of the Idabel Industrial Development Authority. Cuss me all you want.
Who cussed? Not me! You know, it sounds like everything is just okey dokey no pay cuts or layoffs, the hospital is turning around, the board is sorry, the commissioners are working, so let's just pretend none of this happened and carryon!
Outlaw

Sulphur, OK

#42 Oct 31, 2013
Bruce Willingham wrote:
<quoted text>
Believe me, the people you're referring to now know the mistakes that have been made. I was touched by hearing one of them admit his mistakes to hospital employees the other night. Can you please let them try to take a new direction? Once that's happened, we can blame people if we want. Right now, many people are working non-stop to turn things around. I honestly believe they will, but Mr. Messer, very appropriately named, almost dug them a hole so deep it could not be filled in time.
I think Mark Matloff was an unintended, but very, very angry angel. That may sound odd, but his bulldog attitude was the unrelated reason this came to public view, hopefully in time to turn things around. I optimistically don't think it was any accident, and actually feel blessed to have been there to see it happen first-hand and to report to you about it. Think what you will. I hope for the best, pray for the best, and believe it will happen. I am (proudly) one of five members of the Idabel Industrial Development Authority. Cuss me all you want.
Who cussed you? Not me! I guess everything is now okey dokey! The employees are happy, the board is sorry, the commissioners are working, we are not going to pay more taxes, the press is not going to investigate any scandals, schemes, because the press now has too much invested to make trouble. I hope for the best too, so no more comments.
pappy

Plano, TX

#43 Nov 1, 2013
OUTLAW, you may be interested in the article of the Terrell Texas hospital that was shut down because of similar circumstances as what has occurred at McCurtain County Hospital. The Article was Under the Head line of "Renaissance Hospital Terrell Shuttered for Violations, taxes. I DO BELIEVE IT WAS ROBBED USING AN ENRON MAGIC MARKER. there WERE ALSO SEVERAL OTHER TEXAS HOPITALS CLOSED UNDER SIMILAR CIRCUMSTAMCES. Just expressing an opinion
pappy

Plano, TX

#44 Nov 1, 2013
Some times Outlaw, the reason you see no investigation in the media or an investigation at the near collapse of an entity is simple. the fear of the media losing revenue from their local advertisers, How can a hosipal or other government entity lose so much money unless those in charge are derelict in their duty as they are suppose to be the watch dogs for the public. That goes also for the local media. And who was doing the sudits and who was suppose to be overseeing those audits. Was that not the Boards duty? Did not the same or similar thing happen in the Valliant School District. One question, how could this keep happening year after year, going deeper in debt.
Just FYI

Broken Bow, OK

#45 Nov 1, 2013
I don't think everything is okey dokey or that employees are happy without cause. I do think the employees are optimistic that things are improving and will continue to get better with time. Many have survived years of hopeful expectation that the reign of the previous administration would end and our hospital could be returned to a good place to work and care for our neighbors friends and family.
I hope that the community will be supportive of the changes and give time to see measurable results. Remember it didn't get this way over night and improvements are being made. The person mostly responsible for the debt is no longer here so can't we move on and work together to rebuild what he tore down? At least give it a chance?
Bruce Willingham

Norman, OK

#46 Nov 1, 2013
pappy wrote:
Some times Outlaw, the reason you see no investigation in the media or an investigation at the near collapse of an entity is simple. the fear of the media losing revenue from their local advertisers, How can a hosipal or other government entity lose so much money unless those in charge are derelict in their duty as they are suppose to be the watch dogs for the public. That goes also for the local media. And who was doing the sudits and who was suppose to be overseeing those audits. Was that not the Boards duty? Did not the same or similar thing happen in the Valliant School District. One question, how could this keep happening year after year, going deeper in debt.
You are ill-informed, Pappy. It was the newspaper that did investigate and did report on the financial situation, and further obtained a letter from the then president of the hospital board saying what a tremendous job the CEO was doing coincidentally written at the same time the withholding wasn't being paid in to the IRS. Can get you the dates the articles ran, if you like.
pappy

Plano, TX

#47 Nov 1, 2013
Does your paper have an on line thread for your newspaper??
pappy

Plano, TX

#48 Nov 1, 2013
By the way Mr. Willingham I do enjoy reading you newspaper. I find you call-in line very interesting and amusing at times. I find some the people on that call in line even less informed than I.
Bruce Willingham

Broken Bow, OK

#49 Nov 1, 2013
pappy wrote:
Does your paper have an on line thread for your newspaper??
Sorry, but no. Tried it for a while, but abandoned it because it didn't make sense revenue-wise. All around us, papers have cut back from daily to weekly or in the case of Hugo, to twice a week. In the past few years, both the Tulsa World and Oklahoman have sharply shrunk, then finally sold. We have been fine and continue to be because 1)we don't give away our product and 2)we work our fannies off to keep lots of local news in the paper. We have not had to lay off a single person. This year marks 25 years we have owned the paper, and we're proud that we have been able to give raises 23 out of those 25 years. We have a wonderful, dedicated staff.
Outlaw

Sulphur, OK

#50 Nov 4, 2013
Just FYI wrote:
I don't think everything is okey dokey or that employees are happy without cause. I do think the employees are optimistic that things are improving and will continue to get better with time. Many have survived years of hopeful expectation that the reign of the previous administration would end and our hospital could be returned to a good place to work and care for our neighbors friends and family.
I hope that the community will be supportive of the changes and give time to see measurable results. Remember it didn't get this way over night and improvements are being made. The person mostly responsible for the debt is no longer here so can't we move on and work together to rebuild what he tore down? At least give it a chance?
I agree. I was mostly upset when I thought the average workers were getting a pay cut or facing lay offs. I will still not support a tax increase and will campaign against one. I wish the new CEO and board good luck.
Curious

Broken Bow, OK

#51 Nov 4, 2013
Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>I agree. I was mostly upset when I thought the average workers were getting a pay cut or facing lay offs. I will still not support a tax increase and will campaign against one. I wish the new CEO and board good luck.
Just out of curiosity, why would you hesitate to support a sales tax and/or campaign against it?
Outlaw

Sulphur, OK

#52 Nov 5, 2013
Curious wrote:
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Just out of curiosity, why would you hesitate to support a sales tax and/or campaign against it?
Idabel sales tax is 9.00. If it is raised 9.50 that will make it one of the highest sales tax in Oklahoma. We have a lot of people here in McCurtain County that are just not making it to their next check. Just look at all the loan shark places in town. If you want to add to our peoples debt to pay for the mistakes(corruption) at the hospital that is your choice. You can make a contribution to the hospital and get tax deduction. I think there are still a lot of people here that have fallen between the cracks or should I say POT HOLES! Some are elderly that have worked hard in the past to save for retirement and do not qualify for welfare, food stamps, Medicaid and only qualify for Medicare. There are young families working hard now that do not qualify for Food Stamps,Sooner Care, Medicaid. There are singles working everyday without the support of their family or the government. The reason I do not want to add a new tax on the people of McCurtain County is because they can't afford it.
Just FYI

Broken Bow, OK

#53 Nov 5, 2013
I am not certain but believe only a quarter cent would be asked for and not a half cent. If you spend $100. at 9% which is the current tax. Then $9.00 is added to the $100. to total $109. including tax. If the hospital were to get a quarter % tax then your total would be $109.25 so not as much difference when put it in that context. Still I do understand that times are hard and every quarter counts. We have lots of tourist here in the county that would be paying a part of the money as well. All those quarters from the tourists could really help our economy and the hospital.
Just my thoughts. It's our hospital and our county. Let's take back control of it and make it a better place for our citizens than it has been under the leadership of the previous Texan.

for real

Broken Bow, OK

#54 Nov 5, 2013
The last time the hospital got a tax part of the money was spent on gastro-surgical equipment when the hospital has never had a gastro-surgeon. The last grant the hospital got was used to build an administrative wing because I guess that was the most important thing. The hospital still has the same CNO who was there when all this took place. She has never taken up for the staff. She backed everything Messer did. When questioned, I have seen her scream in nurses faces with spittle flying on them at the nurses' station. If you disagreed with her, you didn't stay employed there. The hospital has a lot to make up for. Just because things are looking up (same as they said when Messer took over) they expect the county to open their wallets. I think we have been fooled one time too many to fall for it this time.
Outlaw

Sulphur, OK

#55 Nov 5, 2013
Just FYI wrote:
I am not certain but believe only a quarter cent would be asked for and not a half cent. If you spend $100. at 9% which is the current tax. Then $9.00 is added to the $100. to total $109. including tax. If the hospital were to get a quarter % tax then your total would be $109.25 so not as much difference when put it in that context. Still I do understand that times are hard and every quarter counts. We have lots of tourist here in the county that would be paying a part of the money as well. All those quarters from the tourists could really help our economy and the hospital.
Just my thoughts. It's our hospital and our county. Let's take back control of it and make it a better place for our citizens than it has been under the leadership of the previous Texan.
The previous Texan was the CEO but a 10 member board of directors, all from McCurtain County, had to signoff on any decisions made by the CEO and his executive staff and directors. There is the hospital authority board, all McCurtain County residents. Then I guess the 3 county commissioners all from McCurtain County. It seems to me McCurtain County leadership was in charge and they messed up and are expecting the rest of us to pay for their lack of leadership.
Not me

Lamar, OK

#56 Nov 6, 2013
I don't know about all the other employees, but I didn't get a bonus last year or the year before and although there are suppose to be 10 board members I don't believe there were actually 10 during the time Mr. Messer was in control.
Outlaw

Sulphur, OK

#57 Nov 6, 2013
Not me wrote:
I don't know about all the other employees, but I didn't get a bonus last year or the year before and although there are suppose to be 10 board members I don't believe there were actually 10 during the time Mr. Messer was in control.
I would support a tax if I knew for sure it was actually going to the employees (not administration or directors) the hospital needs more nurses and aids.
Outlaw

Sulphur, OK

#58 Nov 7, 2013
Not me wrote:
I don't know about all the other employees, but I didn't get a bonus last year or the year before and although there are suppose to be 10 board members I don't believe there were actually 10 during the time Mr. Messer was in control.
I just read the papers call the editor, maybe you should check to see who got bonuses last year. Want to bet it was the administration and directors.
not me

Broken Bow, OK

#59 Nov 7, 2013
I am a manager and I didn't get a bonus or a raise actually. I am not griping about that I want to keep our hospital for our county run by and supported by our county. I also want good nurses and aids to care for our patients. So some of us are with you.
Outlaw

Sulphur, OK

#60 Nov 7, 2013
not me wrote:
I am a manager and I didn't get a bonus or a raise actually. I am not griping about that I want to keep our hospital for our county run by and supported by our county. I also want good nurses and aids to care for our patients. So some of us are with you.
I will support the tax only because I want to keep our hospital and want to support you and the other employees. Didn't take long to win me over on the other side!!!! It would be nice to see the accounting and tax records for the last 10 years. We really don't have a clue. There are so many rumors.

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