Ronald Reagan-the myth
Sunrise

United States

#82 Nov 21, 2012
ConfusedByRhetoric wrote:
<quoted text>
Sunrise,
It's quite interesting when you ask a liberal, poignant, questions, such as; the question posted by you and never receive a response?
But they are good at deflecting, detracting and changing the subject.
pappy

Lewisville, TX

#83 Nov 22, 2012
Sunrise wrote:
<quoted text>Pappy, here is a link to the history of Lifeline. I didn't see Reagan's name on it.
http://jthtl.org/content/articles/V5I2/JTHTLv...
SunShine you just need to look a little harder and you will find out he signed the bill into law---you jut looked at the wrong info. I remeber teh president talking about the need for such a phone service----And teh phone company got a heck of a deal an made even bigger profits off of Life Line.
pappy

Lewisville, TX

#84 Nov 22, 2012
Ain't forums fun folks. Everytime you GOPeers talk of REagan you forget to mention his true political history even leaving out the Iran -Contra scandal.
pappy

Lewisville, TX

#85 Nov 22, 2012
Do you folks remember the history of Reagan sellig thsoe missiles to Iran, and F104 parts for the Iranian planes. Plus oother military supplies. And that aint no MYTH of Reagan either or no hype jsut facts.
Sunrise

Dallas, TX

#86 Nov 23, 2012
pappy wrote:
<quoted text> SunShine you just need to look a little harder and you will find out he signed the bill into law---you jut looked at the wrong info. I remeber teh president talking about the need for such a phone service----And teh phone company got a heck of a deal an made even bigger profits off of Life Line.
Go back and look at how many times I have told you that Reagan signed the lifeline bill and gave you links to the information. Why do you keep saying this like I don't know it? Why are you so concerned about him signing the bill? I thought you were for free stuff being handed out by the government.

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#87 Nov 23, 2012
pappy wrote:
Ain't forums fun folks. Everytime you GOPeers talk of REagan you forget to mention his true political history even leaving out the Iran -Contra scandal.
Yeah and Clinton had Whitewater and Monica Lewinsky. Obama has had Solyndra and Fast & Furious, so; what is your point?

I mean really, what is your point are you trying to insinuate that Republican Presidents are the only Presidents with scandals? It wouldn't surprise me, however; it would display, your apparent idiocy.
pappy

Lewisville, TX

#88 Nov 24, 2012
Confused, about white water, the GPEERS went after clinton on white water but was never able to do what they ought----to get him kicked out of office and leave hinm with a dirtied up name. but it never worked. In case you do not knwo--Iran -contra was a traitorious move on his part and the others that set up the deal. they could have all been tries for treason. How about when the Iranians released the 55 prosoners just shoprtly after Reagan was sworn in as president. And according to the law Iran had been declared an enemy of our country and so selling weapons to iran was not a legal thing to do. But it is a fact of life that the Iranians were sold parts for their amercian made F104 jet fighters sold to Iran during the shah 's Reign. Plus some more weapons and later was arming and suppying Irag which invaded Iran. These are jsut the facts of life. And another fact is that the CIA chief Wild Bill CASEY died one day before he was to testify before the Congressional invetigating committee. But I have no dould that Reagan as I believe every other president that came before Reagan had the best interest of our country in their heart.
pappy

Lewisville, TX

#89 Nov 24, 2012
Confused, did you know that some more info came out on Nixon, from info kept in the dark involing the VietNam peace talks.
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#90 Jan 15, 2013
The Reagan Myths continue--did you folks know that Reagan raised taxes 11 times nd the debt ceiling 17 times and on that numer I quit counting. And the Republicans now want to hold the debt ceiling hostage. No body ever held Reagans debt ceiling hostage to be used as leverage against him and hsi money spending ways. Reagan also tripled the deficit during his time in office. And the republicans want to create a Reagan MYTH that he was tight with the goverments money--but that was all a myth was n't it.
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#91 Jan 15, 2013
Do you folks remeber that it was Reagan that sold missiles to the Iran goverment as well as other weapons made a profit on thsoe sales and them gave weapons to the contras. Thats the reason they called it the Iran-Contra scandal. Have a nice day, I am.

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#92 Jan 17, 2013
Pappy,

So, what you're really saying is:

It's okay for Obama to spend us into oblivion, because of a Republican Myth, perpetrated by the Right, casting Reagan as a Fical Conservative? Is that it, why; don't you just say it?

Let's take a lesson in logic, shall we?

Lesson #1

U.S. Tax Revenue $2,170,000,000,000
Federal Budget $3,820,000,000,000
New Debt $1,650,000,000,000
National Debt $14,271,000,000,000
Recent Budget Cuts $38,500,000,000

Le's now remove 8 zeros and pretend it's a household budget:

Annual Family Income $21,700
Money The Family Spent $38,200
New Debt On Credit Card $16,500
Outstanding Balance On Credit Card $142,710
Total Budget Cuts So Far $38.50

Got It?????? OK Now

Here's another way to lok at the Debt Ceiling:

Let's say, you come home from work and find there has been a sewer backup in your neighborhood......

Upon inspection, you find that your sewage has backed up all the way to the celing.

What should you do?

Raise The Ceiling or Remove The Shit?

I am pretty certain you will not comment, because; it makes too much sense.
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#93 Jan 18, 2013
Confused, you aresomewhat confused as your name implies--Obama stood talll amongst midgets when he absorbed the Bush deficit spending into hsi busdget. And thsoe cost of baby Bsuh is still adding top our deficit. Are you so confused that you forgot the Bsuh tax cuts that put us deeper into debt that was not paid for. And hw about the payas yougo bill that the Republicans who controilled both houses done away with that Clinton made use of to put forth a balanced udget. Guesss you GOPeers completely forgot about that balanced budget ofClintons that put billions of dollars in Bush's hands that could have paid off the debt. And according to the CBO re[portould have done just that in 10 yeas. But once agin a Bush doubed the spending and also doubled the deficit. And Buh wouldh ave trippled the defici jus as Reagan did. As I have sid before the GOPeers have turned REagn into a myth trying to forget hsi true historyof his days in office. Now you are trying to rewrite the Bus hostory trying to clean up his past record in office and his life. You GOPeers seem to keep having memory gaps about your past republican presidents. I call that selective memory loss. But as of yet Obama has ot doubled the debt nor held the debt ceiling hostage to try and use for leverage as MItch McConnell said on Cspann
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#94 Jan 18, 2013
onfused, instead of pretending, face reality---Reagan s a republican created myth- the GOIPeers have tried to recreate Reagan into somethin he was not.
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#95 Jan 18, 2013
Helo Confued, once agin I bring you part of the Reagan myth that Republicans never mention but would like to forget. When soaial security came into existence there was a promise to never tax social security. But in 1983 that was about to change. Reagan initiated the taxiing of thsoe benfits of social security--for the first time in the history of social security. After all Reagan was in need of a new source of revene as the debt kept on rising.
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#96 Jan 18, 2013
Confused there is just alll kinds of stuff left out of the rewrite of Reagans mythical hsitory by republicans. Just as baby Bush is trying to rewrite his history and rejuvenate his self. It has happeneed to about every president in hitory. I do not know why but their followers want them to become more popular.
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#97 Jan 18, 2013
Now Confused donot fret as I bring you good tidings, President Clinton also put a tax on social security in 1993. Under reagan the tax was 50 percent and Clinton raised it to 85 prcent. which n=means that about 25 to 30 percent of those recieving socia security benefits are not taxed on thsoe benfits. And guess what--both of our political parties were in agreement to having S.S. taxed. And thsoe fica taxes are not tax deductible. JUST A BIT OF SOCIAL SECURITY HISTORY
pappy

Flower Mound, TX

#98 Jan 18, 2013
aND FOLKS YO CAN BET YOUR AST DOLLAR THA IN SOME WAY OR FORM THSOE POLITICIANS WILL BE COMING TO GET YOU SOCIAL SECUITY BENEFITS LOOKING FOR SOME WAY TO HAVE A MEANS TEST, CHANGING THE FORMULA FOR PAYMENT OF THSOE BENFITS OR OR TO FIND SOME OTHER SNEAKY WAY TO REDUCE YOUR BENFITS THAT YOU ARE RECEVING. GET READY TOBENT OVER AND SMILE IT MAY HURT A BIT. bUT YOU s.s. CHECK IS GOING TO BE SMALLER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IF THSOE D.C. POLITICIANS HAVE THEIR WAY--THEY COME SEEKING MORE REVENUE. aND THERE ARE OVER 50 MILLION OF YOU FOLKS GETTING THSOE BENF=EFITS TO TAKE FROM. SAD FEELING AINT IT. sO IN THE FUTURE BE PREPARED TO LIVE ON LESS AND TIGHTEN THAT BELT UP A NOTCH OR TWO. HAVE A NICE DAY, I AM. GOD BLESS ONE AND ALL

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#99 Jan 22, 2013
pappy wrote:
Confused, you aresomewhat confused as your name implies--Obama stood talll amongst midgets when he absorbed the Bush deficit spending into hsi busdget. And thsoe cost of baby Bsuh is still adding top our deficit. Are you so confused that you forgot the Bsuh tax cuts that put us deeper into debt that was not paid for. And hw about the payas yougo bill that the Republicans who controilled both houses done away with that Clinton made use of to put forth a balanced udget. Guesss you GOPeers completely forgot about that balanced budget ofClintons that put billions of dollars in Bush's hands that could have paid off the debt. And according to the CBO re[portould have done just that in 10 yeas. But once agin a Bush doubed the spending and also doubled the deficit. And Buh wouldh ave trippled the defici jus as Reagan did. As I have sid before the GOPeers have turned REagn into a myth trying to forget hsi true historyof his days in office. Now you are trying to rewrite the Bus hostory trying to clean up his past record in office and his life. You GOPeers seem to keep having memory gaps about your past republican presidents. I call that selective memory loss. But as of yet Obama has ot doubled the debt nor held the debt ceiling hostage to try and use for leverage as MItch McConnell said on Cspann
Well, you keep believing your "Obama" myth, also; and keep telling yourself that it is not amazing, how a budget has not been approved by Congress in over 4 years? You keep telling yourself that the deficit is scheduled to be over 16 trillion dollars for fiscal year 2012 and Obama had nothing to do with the 5 trillion dollars he added to it and plans to add another trillion, plus; in 2013. You keep telling yourself that America has a revenue problem and and discount the spending problem. You just keep believing that Obamacare will make health care cheaper, when rates have already risen across the board? You keep telling yourself that Obama is not a "job killing" president, just read a newspaper? You just keep telling yourself that wind and solar energy is sustainable, meanwhile; Obama puts coal and natural gas production in the poor house. Somehow, all the items I just mentioned are not Bush or Reagan policy, however; they are 100% Obama Policy, so; you just keep believing the shit you're pushing and we will see how long your Social Security checks, last?

“Nothing Is Free In This World”

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#100 Jan 22, 2013
pappy wrote:
onfused, instead of pretending, face reality---Reagan s a republican created myth- the GOIPeers have tried to recreate Reagan into somethin he was not.
Well, you keep believing your "Obama" myth, also; and keep telling yourself that it is not amazing, how a budget has not been approved by Congress in over 4 years? You keep telling yourself that the deficit is scheduled to be over 16 trillion dollars for fiscal year 2012 and Obama had nothing to do with the 5 trillion dollars he added to it and plans to add another trillion, plus; in 2013. You keep telling yourself that America has a revenue problem and and discount the spending problem. You just keep believing that Obamacare will make health care cheaper, when rates have already risen across the board? You keep telling yourself that Obama is not a "job killing" president, just read a newspaper? You just keep telling yourself that wind and solar energy is sustainable, meanwhile; Obama puts coal and natural gas production in the poor house. Somehow, all the items I just mentioned are not Bush or Reagan policy, however; they are 100% Obama Policy, so; you just keep believing the shit you're pushing and we will see how long your Social Security checks, last?

“Nothing Is Free In This World”

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#101 Jan 22, 2013
pappy wrote:
Helo Confued, once agin I bring you part of the Reagan myth that Republicans never mention but would like to forget. When soaial security came into existence there was a promise to never tax social security. But in 1983 that was about to change. Reagan initiated the taxiing of thsoe benfits of social security--for the first time in the history of social security. After all Reagan was in need of a new source of revene as the debt kept on rising.
Well, you keep believing your "Obama" myth, also; and keep telling yourself that it is not amazing, how a budget has not been approved by Congress in over 4 years? You keep telling yourself that the deficit is scheduled to be over 16 trillion dollars for fiscal year 2012 and Obama had nothing to do with the 5 trillion dollars he added to it and plans to add another trillion, plus; in 2013. You keep telling yourself that America has a revenue problem and and discount the spending problem. You just keep believing that Obamacare will make health care cheaper, when rates have already risen across the board? You keep telling yourself that Obama is not a "job killing" president, just read a newspaper? You just keep telling yourself that wind and solar energy is sustainable, meanwhile; Obama puts coal and natural gas production in the poor house. Somehow, all the items I just mentioned are not Bush or Reagan policy, however; they are 100% Obama Policy, so; you just keep believing the shit you're pushing and we will see how long your Social Security checks, last?

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