Two White Youths Killeda Walking While White in Tulsa, Oklahoma

There are 75 comments on the VDARE.com story from Oct 7, 2011, titled Two White Youths Killeda Walking While White in Tulsa, Oklahoma. In it, VDARE.com reports that:

Murder victims Carissa Horton, 18, and Ethan Nichols, 21 are seen here during an event at Rhema Bible Church in Broken Arrow.

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“Law unto myself”

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#66 Dec 4, 2011
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>He's full of it. Blacks make up 18 percent of the population, so there's an 80% chance their randomly picked victim would be non-black. But the reality is, blacks do not have racist baptist hate groups like whites do.
If you're white and you want to commit hate crimes but not get indicted for that portion of your criminal actions, don't be a stupid f.k and admit it to the cops when you get arrested, you toothless, rusted out fenderwell camero driving meth smoking tattooed mullet wearing deadbeat white trash.
No, but blacks do have groups such as Nation of Islam, Nation of Yahweh, the New Black Panther Movement, and others. It seems that you're giving someone a pass just based on skin color!

“Uzi Does It”

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#67 Dec 4, 2011
bluestreak2_0 wrote:
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No, but blacks do have groups such as Nation of Islam, Nation of Yahweh, the New Black Panther Movement, and others. It seems that you're giving someone a pass just based on skin color!
The wording of any statute or US code does not corroborate a single thing you are saying.

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#68 Dec 4, 2011
bluestreak2_0 wrote:
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Since this is becoming a matter of race, has it ever occurred to you that maybe this discrimination is but a figment of the imagination?
Put it in perspective. If a black person-or a white person- can't get a particular job, is it possible that maybe, just maybe, they don't have the experience or credentials? Charging blacks more? That's the beauty of an open market, you're free to shop around for the prices you're comfortable with, whether you are black or white. Lending practices: if your credit is bad or your employment record is questionable, or your income level does not meet to that lending institution's criteria, white or black, you probably won't get that loan. Housing discrimination? Look at the rental history and do a background check, and white or black, that's really what determines if you'd be a good tenant or not. Educational discrimination? If your grades aren't up to snuff, I don't care what your color is, you probably won't be getting into Tulane Law next fall. Discrimination from law enforcement? If you dress and behave like you just stepped out of a gangsta rap video, or are behaving in a suspicious manner, be you white or black, expect "The Man" to give you a once-over.
White on black crime is much more prosecuted than it was before the civil rights era, for sure. Even if there seems to be no real racial motivation, that the agressor happened to be white and the victim just happened to be black, it is treated as a hate crime, and reported as such by the media. the white person is afforded no excuse, and rightly so. But if a black person commits a crime against a white, even for racially motivated reasons (such as Colin Ferguson, the guy who shot up a number of whites on a subway on Long Island), the media and the courts are hesitatnt to treat it as such.
I hope that clears it up for you.
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No, I don't think it is a matter of qualifications.

All of the factors you mentioned are considered every few years when we are in a slow news cycle, and the study will be conducted where they send out similarly situated white and black applicants for same jobs and apartments and houses, and without fail the white applicant gets the better treatment, acceptance, and approval. Some are so bold as to openly express their racism against the black applicant to the white applicant in the study.

The only hate crimes I've noticed are the ones where there is evidence that race, gender, religion was a factor in the crime. Usually hate crime perpertrators want it known why they are doing the crime. They tend to leave evidence before, during, and after they commit the wrongful act.

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#69 Dec 4, 2011
bluestreak2_0 wrote:
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However, there is a double standard. You rarely- if ever- hear of racial overtones in a black on white crime, not because it doesn't exist, but because the judiciary obviously fears the wrath of rioting blacks. But a white on black crime is often prosecuted with such an enhancement.
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If the black on white crime is not based on race, why assume it is?

White on black hate crime almost always includes racial slurs and demeaning language about the black victim, either before, during, of after the crime.

I've never heard of a black on white crime where the perp is saying, "take that you cracker, you redneck" or whatever. I don't even think there is any language to show the black would be acting out of racism in a society that is majority white where they hold all of the power in society and enforce it through its institutions.

Maybe if a black wrapped a white in a Confederate Flag and stabbed the white to death through the flag, it could be considered a hate crime, maybe...

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#70 Dec 4, 2011
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>The wording of any statute or US code does not corroborate a single thing you are saying.
Why not take a closer look at those links, and get back to me on that.

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#71 Dec 4, 2011
WMCOL wrote:
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If the black on white crime is not based on race, why assume it is?
White on black hate crime almost always includes racial slurs and demeaning language about the black victim, either before, during, of after the crime.
I've never heard of a black on white crime where the perp is saying, "take that you cracker, you redneck" or whatever. I don't even think there is any language to show the black would be acting out of racism in a society that is majority white where they hold all of the power in society and enforce it through its institutions.
Maybe if a black wrapped a white in a Confederate Flag and stabbed the white to death through the flag, it could be considered a hate crime, maybe...
Are you naive, or simply playing coy? You know exactly what I'm referring to.

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#72 Dec 4, 2011
bluestreak2_0 wrote:
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Are you naive, or simply playing coy? You know exactly what I'm referring to.
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<Are you naive, or simply playing coy?>

Neither.

<You know exactly what I'm referring to.>

I only know what you stated. If you meant something else you didn't say it.

“Uzi Does It”

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#73 Dec 4, 2011
bluestreak2_0 wrote:
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Why not take a closer look at those links, and get back to me on that.
I've already researched this subject and the relevant state statutes and US code. Why would I need to see any of your "links"?
Skorzeny

Miami, OK

#76 Dec 4, 2011
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>Excuse me, but did I insult you in some way? I really don't think this level of enmity is called for...I may be white, but I'm hardly 'trash' because of it.
Wow. Who pissed in YOUR post-toasties?
shovelhead72, I wouldn't take this too personally. Remember, Dick is short for Richard.

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#77 Dec 5, 2011
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>I've already researched this subject and the relevant state statutes and US code. Why would I need to see any of your "links"?
Good, so research it some more.

“Uzi Does It”

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#78 Dec 5, 2011
bluestreak2_0 wrote:
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Good, so research it some more.
I don't need to research it, race of the person accused of a hate crime is not a definition contained in any statute or us code. In fact, as I said before, if a black were to kill blacks for the sole purpose of their race, that black would be charged with a hate crime or penalty enhancer.

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#79 Dec 5, 2011
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>I don't need to research it, race of the person accused of a hate crime is not a definition contained in any statute or us code. In fact, as I said before, if a black were to kill blacks for the sole purpose of their race, that black would be charged with a hate crime or penalty enhancer.
Well, good, so don't research it, I at least respect that you're willing to admit to being willing to remain willfully ignorant.

“Uzi Does It”

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#80 Dec 5, 2011
So long as crazy white guy, stabby mcstabby, doesn't say a word, his alleged crime is simply attempted murder. As soon as Mr. Stabby McStabby says, I did it because I hate __________ fill in the blank, he's going down for the hate crime.

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FRESNO, Calif.(AP)-- A Sikh man waiting for a plane at Fresno Yosemite International Airport has been stabbed in a seemingly unprovoked attack.

The victim was treated at the airport and boarded his flight. He was bound for India.

Police say 26-year-old Mitchell Dufur stabbed the victim in the upper torso Sunday evening. No words were exchanged before the attack.

Dufur was arrested on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon and possession of a knife in an airport.

Lt. Don Gross says investigators have not determined whether it was a hate crime because Dufur has given no indication about his motive.

Sikhism developed in the Punjab region of northern India. Sikhs in the U.S. have occasionally been the target of anti-Muslim sentiment because they wear turbans and beards.

“Uzi Does It”

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#81 Dec 5, 2011
Richard_ wrote:
Lt. Don Gross says investigators have not determined whether it was a hate crime because Dufur has given no indication about his motive.
lol
mayor_maynot

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#82 Jan 7, 2012
All these comments have me longing for pop tarts

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