Nazi group tackles Colorado highway trash

A white supremacist group in Colorado has a new enemy - litter. The chapter of the National Socialist Movement is participating in a state Adopt-A-Highway program. Read more
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Toilet Freckles

York, PA

#33 Feb 1, 2010
Whats sad is there is a Rosa Parks parkway to begin with. Boy do we pander these days.
TxRngr wrote:
I remember a while back when the Klan tried to do this, somewhere on the east coast, the citizens railed and protested. The courts said it was perfectly within their right, so the county assigned them the Rosa Parks Parkway. Needless to say, they never went out there and cleaned to roads.
Ocean View

Pacific Grove, CA

#34 Feb 1, 2010
Toilet Freckles wrote:
Whats sad is there is a Rosa Parks parkway to begin with. Boy do we pander these days.<quoted text>
What is sad is that there are still people who think that it took no courage whatsoever on the part of Rosa Parks to directly confront racist policies in the Deep South at a time when lynchings still occurred and when police were sometimes complicit in that sort of brutality or the deliberate denial of justice that systematically victimized Black American citizens. Her actions were in the same patriotic range as many of us were taught to revere both Revolutionary War heroes and speakers, from Nathan Hale and Crispus Attucks to Patrick Henry and Thomas Paine. Her action was as courageous as those of the Greensboro Four who sought to integrate the Woolworth's lunch counter 50 years ago today, and deserving of recognition because of it.
Ocean View

Pacific Grove, CA

#35 Feb 1, 2010
Movie wrote:
<quoted text>
Hitler did a lot of good things for Germany (and the world)... and his policies emphasized the importance of family life.
Yes, thieves, thugs, and murderers are very effective at intimidating others to do what they want or to "suffer the consequences," by using their ill-gotten resources to bolster their own economies. Slave labor, confiscated real estate, businesses, inventories, cash, art, gold fillings from the dead, and the extermination of the indigent, the mentally deficient, or any others deemed to be a "drain on the economy" are only some of the illegitimate ways that Hitler financed his empire "for the good" of Germany, but not so much for anyone else.

Regardless of what incidental advances might have paradoxically or ironically resulted, the carnage which they derived from is unforgiveable, mostly because those advances were not the intended purpose of Hitler's actions. Imagine how the lives of those lost during the course of WWII, and those of their descendants, could have enriched the world with their talents and efforts over the course of their lifetimes, now and forever unlived.
Toilet Freckles

York, PA

#36 Feb 2, 2010
You are freaking NUTS. Parks did what she did, fine. It was long over due. BUT, she is in no way a hero to America..nothing more than a blip compared in contrast to those you mention.. You speak of lynching and all the racist stuff.. what about today? todays times.. where blacks constantly rob, rape, kill and if not each other (which whites still get blamed for) then its against whites. Whats the black on white crime stats lately? Good luck finding it..the report is hidden. How about the Black Panther party attacking white voters in 2008 who were trying to vote? Progress? I think not. Parks did something good sure, but she's no hero and she did it for a select few
Ocean View wrote:
<quoted text>
What is sad is that there are still people who think that it took no courage whatsoever on the part of Rosa Parks to directly confront racist policies in the Deep South at a time when lynchings still occurred and when police were sometimes complicit in that sort of brutality or the deliberate denial of justice that systematically victimized Black American citizens. Her actions were in the same patriotic range as many of us were taught to revere both Revolutionary War heroes and speakers, from Nathan Hale and Crispus Attucks to Patrick Henry and Thomas Paine. Her action was as courageous as those of the Greensboro Four who sought to integrate the Woolworth's lunch counter 50 years ago today, and deserving of recognition because of it.
Ocean View

Pacific Grove, CA

#37 Feb 2, 2010
Toilet Freckles wrote:
You are freaking NUTS. Parks did what she did, fine. It was long over due. BUT, she is in no way a hero to America..nothing more than a blip compared in contrast to those you mention.. You speak of lynching and all the racist stuff.. what about today? todays times.. where blacks constantly rob, rape, kill and if not each other (which whites still get blamed for) then its against whites. Whats the black on white crime stats lately? Good luck finding it..the report is hidden. How about the Black Panther party attacking white voters in 2008 who were trying to vote? Progress? I think not. Parks did something good sure, but she's no hero and she did it for a select few <quoted text>
My "freaking nuts" are off-topic. When we talk about heroes in our history, it is the inspiration derived from their actions as much as it is individual actions which deserve attention and recognition, and that is why Rosa Parks is a heroine of the Civil Rights Movement which affected all Americans, not merely Black Americans or "a select few."

As for the non-sequitur introduction of current crime statistics as somehow relating to the systematic "reign of terror" experienced by Blacks in the form of lynchings, mutilations, church bombings, residential firebombings, all-White jury convictions, death threats, and political assassinations of Black leaders through the 1960's, these are completely different subjects.

Still, as a separate issue, crime statistics are always interesting, especially in the ways that they can be used to further certain "fear agendas." The "hidden report" challenge took me all of 10 minutes to solve using a web search engine. Tables 40 and 42 of the 2006 statistics available on the following Bureau of Justice Statistics webpage generally refute the premise suggested regarding black-on-white and white-on-black crimes of violence:

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus...

Nevertheless, there are some categories of crime in which the statistics are markedly different, the most interesting of which relate to interracial violent crimes involving property. Perhaps not too surprising, considering both the perceptions and realities about the relative wealth of blacks and whites, there were virtually no crimes by Whites against Blacks over property, while the rate of violent property crimes of Blacks against Whites was consistently half that of Blacks against Blacks. Still, in nearly all of the remaining categories, the interracial violent crime rates, regardless of the ethnicity of the victim or perpetrator, were very similar, and typically varied only 2-3% points either way.
Ocean View

Pacific Grove, CA

#39 Feb 2, 2010
Neo Nazi Youth wrote:
I wish Hitler was still alive. He was a real charismatic leader, who could easily lead us out of this recession, like he did for GERMANY. He also CLEANED UP THE STREETS AND GOT RID OF ALL THE UNDESIREABLES HANGING AROUND.
I wish Hitler were still alive, too, because he would be coming up on his 121st birthday, having spent the last 65 years of his perverted, miserable life in prison unable to do anything to reverse the progress made in the world since his incarceration, and it would have just eaten him up inside, if his cancerous brain hadn't already rendered him any more deluded and paranoid.

Of course anyone wishing that Hitler alive today would have to be able and willing to learn the German language because I doubt that he would countenance the use of any of those derivative languages like English, and everyone knows that being bilingual simply indicates a fatal inability to make a rational choice, like being born German.
barfbag

York, PA

#40 Feb 8, 2010
You are the A-typical liberal who likes to show off smarts, and sound important. Dope.
Ocean View wrote:
<quoted text>
My "freaking nuts" are off-topic. When we talk about heroes in our history, it is the inspiration derived from their actions as much as it is individual actions which deserve attention and recognition, and that is why Rosa Parks is a heroine of the Civil Rights Movement which affected all Americans, not merely Black Americans or "a select few."
As for the non-sequitur introduction of current crime statistics as somehow relating to the systematic "reign of terror" experienced by Blacks in the form of lynchings, mutilations, church bombings, residential firebombings, all-White jury convictions, death threats, and political assassinations of Black leaders through the 1960's, these are completely different subjects.
Still, as a separate issue, crime statistics are always interesting, especially in the ways that they can be used to further certain "fear agendas." The "hidden report" challenge took me all of 10 minutes to solve using a web search engine. Tables 40 and 42 of the 2006 statistics available on the following Bureau of Justice Statistics webpage generally refute the premise suggested regarding black-on-white and white-on-black crimes of violence:
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus...
Nevertheless, there are some categories of crime in which the statistics are markedly different, the most interesting of which relate to interracial violent crimes involving property. Perhaps not too surprising, considering both the perceptions and realities about the relative wealth of blacks and whites, there were virtually no crimes by Whites against Blacks over property, while the rate of violent property crimes of Blacks against Whites was consistently half that of Blacks against Blacks. Still, in nearly all of the remaining categories, the interracial violent crime rates, regardless of the ethnicity of the victim or perpetrator, were very similar, and typically varied only 2-3% points either way.
Percentage by population

York, PA

#41 Feb 8, 2010
Hey dope, consider that blacks make up 12% of the population, now look at those numbers again and you'll start to see how huge black on white crime vs white on black crime is... no sit down boy or go paint protest signs for Al Gores Global Warming, but if you march in DC this weekend bring a few snow shovels..
Ocean View wrote:
<quoted text>
My "freaking nuts" are off-topic. When we talk about heroes in our history, it is the inspiration derived from their actions as much as it is individual actions which deserve attention and recognition, and that is why Rosa Parks is a heroine of the Civil Rights Movement which affected all Americans, not merely Black Americans or "a select few."
As for the non-sequitur introduction of current crime statistics as somehow relating to the systematic "reign of terror" experienced by Blacks in the form of lynchings, mutilations, church bombings, residential firebombings, all-White jury convictions, death threats, and political assassinations of Black leaders through the 1960's, these are completely different subjects.
Still, as a separate issue, crime statistics are always interesting, especially in the ways that they can be used to further certain "fear agendas." The "hidden report" challenge took me all of 10 minutes to solve using a web search engine. Tables 40 and 42 of the 2006 statistics available on the following Bureau of Justice Statistics webpage generally refute the premise suggested regarding black-on-white and white-on-black crimes of violence:
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus...
Nevertheless, there are some categories of crime in which the statistics are markedly different, the most interesting of which relate to interracial violent crimes involving property. Perhaps not too surprising, considering both the perceptions and realities about the relative wealth of blacks and whites, there were virtually no crimes by Whites against Blacks over property, while the rate of violent property crimes of Blacks against Whites was consistently half that of Blacks against Blacks. Still, in nearly all of the remaining categories, the interracial violent crime rates, regardless of the ethnicity of the victim or perpetrator, were very similar, and typically varied only 2-3% points either way.
Ocean View

Pacific Grove, CA

#42 Feb 8, 2010
barfbag wrote:
You are the A-typical liberal who likes to show off smarts, and sound important. Dope.<quoted text>
If answering a correspondent's misguided challenge by providing facts and sources which refute the original assertion is showing off "smarts," then perhaps more attention should be paid by those who make statements showing off "dumbs." People are entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts, otherwise poor decisions get made, money is wasted, and people suffer.
Haha

United States

#43 Feb 8, 2010
Ocean View wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, thieves, thugs, and murderers are very effective at intimidating others to do what they want or to "suffer the consequences," by using their ill-gotten resources to bolster their own economies. Slave labor, confiscated real estate, businesses, inventories, cash, art, gold fillings from the dead, and the extermination of the indigent, the mentally deficient, or any others deemed to be a "drain on the economy" are only some of the illegitimate ways that Hitler financed his empire "for the good" of Germany, but not so much for anyone else.
Regardless of what incidental advances might have paradoxically or ironically resulted, the carnage which they derived from is unforgiveable, mostly because those advances were not the intended purpose of Hitler's actions. Imagine how the lives of those lost during the course of WWII, and those of their descendants, could have enriched the world with their talents and efforts over the course of their lifetimes, now and forever unlived.
The first words that come to mind when describing hitler are all four letter words. You are too kind. Hitler killed millions. The thought of seeing those women and children dying makes me sick.
Ocean View

Pacific Grove, CA

#44 Feb 8, 2010
Percentage by population wrote:
Hey dope, consider that blacks make up 12% of the population, now look at those numbers again and you'll start to see how huge black on white crime vs white on black crime is... no sit down boy or go paint protest signs for Al Gores Global Warming, but if you march in DC this weekend bring a few snow shovels..<quoted text>
Using the information in Table 42,
White on White violence 69.3%
White on Black violence 11.5%
Black on Black violence 74.8%
Black on White violence 13.0%

While comparatively there are in number more incidents of Black on White violence than the reverse, the representative percentages ascribed to each category are consistent with the population percentage. In other words, members of the 12% minority population are committing 13% of the violence against members of the majority population, while members of the majority population are committing 11.5% of the violence against the minority population.

Basically, what the victim crime statistics tell us is that each ethnicity has more to worry about being a victim of violent crime from members of their own ethnic group than they do of any other ethnic group, and that the odds are about the same (1 in 8) on both sides of the equation that they will be violently victimized by someone of the other ethnic group.
Ocean View

Pacific Grove, CA

#45 Feb 8, 2010
Haha wrote:
<quoted text>
The first words that come to mind when describing hitler are all four letter words. You are too kind. Hitler killed millions. The thought of seeing those women and children dying makes me sick.
I wasn't intending to be kind. I intended, however, to only address the inane premise which was presented in terms that directly refuted it, rather than press for the full indictment on all counts.
zone1

York, PA

#46 Feb 10, 2010
Trash for cash,is that what this is?

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