Salem Resistant Against Water Help from Clarksburg

[everyman]

Israel williams wrote:

<quoted text>Everman is right today. But you ( MAX ) are right also. What you are saying has been happing for the last 5 tears. First SVPSD would say in there meetings Salem should do this or that and within a week or two Salem did that.

Israel, that is a GROSS oversimplification and exaggeration of what really happened.

[everyman]

Max wrote:

What's going to happen I think is the Contractor and others will use the last piece of the puzzle for leverage and guess who's as the end of the Line?
Good ole Salem who has a defective Water plant that the State is going to shut down.

There is no immediate shutdown threat on Salem's Water plant. It is Sun Valley's responsibility to build the line to Salem. So, could there be issues? Of course. But, Salem has complied with all requirements, is not responsible for the construction of the line, and right now sits in a good position to complain strongly if anything goes wrong with the construction. Don't automatically assume that the burden of any construction problems will fall on Salem because that is not likely at this point.

[Max]

Where is the Environmental Protection plan for the Water extension contractor? Anyone know. I searched the WV DEP site for an hour could,nt locate it.

[Max]

everyman wrote:

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There is no immediate shutdown threat on Salem's Water plant. It is Sun Valley's responsibility to build the line to Salem. So, could there be issues? Of course. But, Salem has complied with all requirements, is not responsible for the construction of the line, and right now sits in a good position to complain strongly if anything goes wrong with the construction. Don't automatically assume that the burden of any construction problems will fall on Salem because that is not likely at this point.

Everyman,where did you get those colored glasses? I want a pair.
I hope all goes smooth as silk with this extension project.
If this project turns into a night mare It will cost me as a land owner Thousands of dollars. I look at the past performance of these Engineering firms and contractors and I don't want to pay the price for their inept abilities to perform. I look at the revolving door system which Chris Jarret and Michale Abertson are involved in and wonder what is going on up there in Charleston.
We need to shake up the so called Public Service Commission so that it serves the Public.

[Israel williams]

Max wrote:

Where is the Environmental Protection plan for the Water extension contractor? Anyone know. I searched the WV DEP site for an hour could,nt locate it.

Now some of the DIRT is starting to come up to the top, but may be pushed back. Try the dept. of health charleston Bob DeCrease, whom wong ( EPA ) is now working for so it is said.

[Israel williams]

I love the words ( wet lands ). Gota go eat so more later

[everyman]

Max wrote:

Where is the Environmental Protection plan for the Water extension contractor? Anyone know. I searched the WV DEP site for an hour could,nt locate it.

Here ya go
http://www2.wvdep.org/WebApp/_dep/search/Perm...

[everyman]

Max wrote:

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Everyman,where did you get those colored glasses? I want a pair.
I hope all goes smooth as silk with this extension project.
If this project turns into a night mare It will cost me as a land owner Thousands of dollars. I look at the past performance of these Engineering firms and contractors and I don't want to pay the price for their inept abilities to perform. I look at the revolving door system which Chris Jarret and Michale Abertson are involved in and wonder what is going on up there in Charleston.
We need to shake up the so called Public Service Commission so that it serves the Public.

No rose-colored glasses here, Max. I'm well aware that there are a multitude of things that COULD go wrong with the water line project, and I assume that some things will go wrong before it's over. I'm just trying to make the point that Salem is not responsible for the construction of the line, and that Salem is not automatically responsible for any contract cost overruns.

I do know that the project budget has funding built in for cost overruns, in fact a considerable cushion at this point. IF you combine that with good contract management, it is not unreasonable to conclude that this project can be completed within the total budget barring a major unforeseeable problem. I don't care to engage in speculation based on worst case scenarios. That's always a bridge too far best crossed, or not, when it is reached.

[Max]

everyman wrote:

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Here ya go
http://www2.wvdep.org/WebApp/_dep/search/Perm...

Impressed with your research skills there Everyman,thanks for the info. Be nice if our esteemed council member were that efficient and helpful to his constituents.

[everyman]

Max wrote:

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Impressed with your research skills there Everyman,thanks for the info. Be nice if our esteemed council member were that efficient and helpful to his constituents.

You're welcome. I just happened to know where to find it based on past experience; no need to be impressed. Israel would have found it if he had time to look for it.

P.S. Notice whose name is on the permit, i.e the "responsible party."

[Max]

everyman wrote:

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You're welcome. I just happened to know where to find it based on past experience; no need to be impressed. Israel would have found it if he had time to look for it.
P.S. Notice whose name is on the permit, i.e the "responsible party."

Well he must be real busy to miss the so called secret meeting.
I thought he was going to call the Ethics committee and put a stop to that practice?
I can envision the good ole boys up there in chambers behind closed doors smoking them thar big Cuban cigars and plotting against the Citizens of Salem.

[Israel williams]

Max wrote:

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Well he must be real busy to miss the so called secret meeting.
I thought he was going to call the Ethics committee and put a stop to that practice?
I can envision the good ole boys up there in chambers behind closed doors smoking them thar big Cuban cigars and plotting against the Citizens of Salem.

What secret meeting or which one. was there one to night.

[everyman]

Israel williams wrote:

<quoted text>What secret meeting or which one. was there one to night.

There's one every night somewhere. No Cuban cigars though, unless the meeting is in Cuba...or Caracas.

[Max]

The only Sun Shine law the City is violating is the one where they pump it up our butts in regards to how there going to make the City Cleaner,more efficient and attract business. The East End Dump is still not cleaned up. I know the Wheels turn slow at City Hall.

[Israel williams]

Did you know this water thing started in 1992. By the way of Clarksburg water board. Read the minutes Jan. 23 1996. See who the players are

[Judy]

We don't need Clarksburg water,NASA found water on the Moon. Now they will get another Trillion dollars to piss away trying to get back up there.

[HarrisonCountyPa triot]

Judy wrote:

We don't need Clarksburg water,NASA found water on the Moon. Now they will get another Trillion dollars to piss away trying to get back up there.

Thats why Salem has no water,the Government has been looking for water on the Moon and that's expensive.

[Israel williams]

Looking at the minutes in the 90's they lasted from 1 hour plus 30 minutes on ave. They covered a lot, I mean a lot. Now our meetings last from 30 minutes to 45 mintues,

[everyman]

Israel williams wrote:

Looking at the minutes in the 90's they lasted from 1 hour plus 30 minutes on ave. They covered a lot, I mean a lot. Now our meetings last from 30 minutes to 45 mintues,

Let's have a stopwatch contest. By my count, the last 2 meetings went 1 hour 20 minutes and 1 hour 15 minutes. Personally, I don't think any meeting needs to last more than 1 hour.

[oks]

everyman wrote:

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Let's have a stopwatch contest. By my count, the last 2 meetings went 1 hour 20 minutes and 1 hour 15 minutes. Personally, I don't think any meeting needs to last more than 1 hour.

I AGREE 100% Israel just wants more time because he is affraid to go home and try to clean his house up see it is an excuse so he can live in the dump < How about the new name for him Oscar the grouch>