Lanza didn't wear body armor in shooting

Dec 28, 2012 Full story: UPI 84

Adam Lanza went into Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., wearing a utility vest and not a bulletproof ballistic vest, state police said.

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propellerhead

Stratford, CT

#76 Jan 4, 2013
CTM..Conspiracy Theory Monger.

Since: Aug 10

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#77 Jan 4, 2013
More stupid comments from propellerhead.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#78 Jan 4, 2013
Citizen44 wrote:
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It's not. I went to Topix in PA and easily found her; she's all over the place. Sounds like she is missing some-no- a lot of marbles.
That is very true of Ava. Shame on her.
propellerhead

Stratford, CT

#79 Jan 4, 2013
America Gentleman Samuel wrote:
More stupid comments from propellerhead.
You need to have your propeller adjusted.
NOTthechildren

Bryn Mawr, PA

#80 Jan 4, 2013
Citizen44 wrote:
So posts # 16 and # 18 might be a plant.... watch out, they are trying to spread misinformation, LOL. Ok I'll lay off it.....
I wouldn't look for this incident to mirror the colorado incident even if many factors were the same- the cultural evolution (or deterioration) is ongoing so the press coverage will be too.
CTM they are in fact saying there was a motivation. They say he was furious about being 'abandoned' by his mom and left to twist in the wind, rotting in some institution for the rest of his life. He was presumably very dependent on his mom so being sent to the loony bin would feel like a death sentence for him.
Leaving a note or not doesn't allow us to conclude much of anything.
He may have felt that the world wouldn't understand.
How dependent on his mom could he really be other than money at his point in life. He was apparently being left alone for several days at a time. Had the ability to drive. To shop. And for a shy kid apparently had it in him to confront people alledgedly going to the school the day before where an argument took place.

“'never'”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#81 Jan 4, 2013
NOTthechildren wrote:
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How dependent on his mom could he really be other than money at his point in life. He was apparently being left alone for several days at a time. Had the ability to drive. To shop. And for a shy kid apparently had it in him to confront people alledgedly going to the school the day before where an argument took place.
Being dependent for money and shelter is VERY dependent. But I'm willing to bet his mom was a liaison to the rest of the world. This was a kid so messed up that he wouldn't talk to anyone he didn't know.
I know nothing about any argument the previous day. What is that about? Please tell, what did you hear?
NOTthechildren

Bryn Mawr, PA

#82 Jan 4, 2013
Citizen44 wrote:
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Being dependent for money and shelter is VERY dependent. But I'm willing to bet his mom was a liaison to the rest of the world. This was a kid so messed up that he wouldn't talk to anyone he didn't know.
I know nothing about any argument the previous day. What is that about? Please tell, what did you hear?
Don't know about the argument the previous day which isn't in the "official" narrative. That's the problem-was there a confrontation and about what.

http://regator.com/p/258630055/newtown_gunman...

And his mom was apparently away the day before getting home the night before the shootings.

The child killer was 'dependent' for money and shelter. But he apparently was not the dysfunctional social introvert that shouldn't be let out of sight either. He apparently didn't need his hand held for normal daily routine as first reported. Early reports have his mom quoted as saying things like don't let him out sight. But yet she was leaving him home alone for several days at a time.
propellerhead

Stratford, CT

#83 Jan 4, 2013
questions but no answers wrote:
<quoted text>Why is everyone still linking Nancy Lanza to the school or indicating she had a role at the school? Most news reports have in fact stated she was never employed at the school, nor was she ever a volunteer. Some reporters have stated she was friends with the principal and psychologist at the school. No one really knows the truth because Mrs. Lanza is dead. Rest assured, the truth will never be released in its entirety, nor the toxicology reports. The elected, appointed, and employed officials are trying desperately to keep the facts to a minimum.
What exactly are they trying to keep hidden? Did they know that this idiot was going to do this ahead of time? Were these officials all in on the plan? As far as I know this kid with mental issues unfotunately had access to high powered weapons that were purchased legally by his mother. Here in Ct, which has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country in place. Yes, initial news reports had innaccuracies, which is a product of our 24/7 news channels trying to get out information before everybody else, and before they have confirmed it. That doesn't make a conspiracy. Are you telling me that the F.B.I., the State Police and Newtown police are all hiding "true facts" to protect some elected officials? From what? Please, enlighten me.
Laws dont work anyway

Minneapolis, MN

#84 Jan 4, 2013
propellerhead wrote:
<quoted text>What exactly are they trying to keep hidden? Did they know that this idiot was going to do this ahead of time? Were these officials all in on the plan? As far as I know this kid with mental issues unfotunately had access to high powered weapons that were purchased legally by his mother. Here in Ct, which has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country in place. Yes, initial news reports had innaccuracies, which is a product of our 24/7 news channels trying to get out information before everybody else, and before they have confirmed it. That doesn't make a conspiracy. Are you telling me that the F.B.I., the State Police and Newtown police are all hiding "true facts" to protect some elected officials? From what? Please, enlighten me.
$100,000,000 lawsuit for starters.
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#85 Jan 4, 2013
Not the children... we have to remember a few things... first and foremost, his mother is a victim.

You cant honestly believe that she thought he was capable of killing people let alone her...

Also, we know he went to try and get a gun from a store in the days prior which suggests that the guns werent at hisfingertips..

It seems plausible to think thathis mother did with him what most mothers do who have kids that have been labelled.. she likely followed docs orders to keep medicating him, which was likely the cause of his rampage...she is not too blame.. the medical profession and pharmaceutica;l companies failed him which in turn hurt our society like the other mass murders..
NOTthechildren

Bryn Mawr, PA

#86 Jan 4, 2013
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no more drugs wrote:
Not the children... we have to remember a few things... first and foremost, his mother is a victim.
You cant honestly believe that she thought he was capable of killing people let alone her...
Also, we know he went to try and get a gun from a store in the days prior which suggests that the guns werent at hisfingertips..
It seems plausible to think thathis mother did with him what most mothers do who have kids that have been labelled.. she likely followed docs orders to keep medicating him, which was likely the cause of his rampage...she is not too blame.. the medical profession and pharmaceutica;l companies failed him which in turn hurt our society like the other mass murders..
I absolutely agree. This IS the most troublesum part of this. What the mother knew and what she did or didn't do. I don't think a mother would let her suicidal maniac son home alone for a several days at a pop. Almost from day one the story was pushed the mother said she couldn't leave her son out of sight and yet he was left alone several days at pop, learned how to drive, learned to how shop: for weapons anyway and even took college courses with adults.

And YES this is something that's not being pursued by the media: Why did a kid with supposed easy access to guns try to buy more guns. One article said the guns were in a case of somekind.

Alot of media is excluding the mother in the body count. The mothers home/crime scene at the house needs further investigation.

Since: Oct 11

Sandy Hook, CT

#87 Jan 5, 2013
Those politicians just love to wag the dog. They blame the guns. They blame his "mental disorder". The drugs he was on with no doctor or prescription produced. Notice all the talk about the computer info,(hard drive to the lab, subpeona for all the postings and e-mails), has been stopped. Really, they can't figure out what's on it? I bet there is a lot of political career ending truth on that. The dog is getting bigger. WTF is with the billboards in each direction by exit 42 in West Haven by I-95 that read "We are Sandy Hook and We Choose Love"? What was the question? What other choices were there? These families are getting more than enough comfort items but no truth. The dog gets really big with Blumenthal "Searching for answers"... stay tuned, it's not for the computer info from the shooting, it's not for the reason the kid went off the deep end, it's not for the Motive of the shooting.... NO... he's using Federal Taxpayers and State money to find out why a school went bankrupt. Not one politician has demanded an answer for the families of this tragedy.
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#88 Jan 5, 2013
Not the children,

All we know is that his behavior was worsening.. we dont know if she left him alone, and we have to assume her guns were locked/hidden as we know the shooter went to try and buy a gun just a couple of days before it happened..

She is a victim, and the culprit is the mind altering legally prescribed drugs which clearly state the adverse side affects are exactly what the shooter did..

It is alarming to see how many seemingly intelligent people are allowing themselves to be distracted by guns laws and video games and mental illness, instead of looking at what would cause a person to go out and commit such a heinous act....

We have the answer and its in the black box warnings that are in the pill boxes..

We need to start asking for accountability from our media and demand that the prescribed drugs he was on become aired so we can look for a solution in how these drugs are given and how the people are monitored..

Lets face it.. if the people who take these drugs, knew that it was the drug talking, then there woulnt be black box warnings and millions of violent acts attributed to the se drugs...

Lets speak up..
NOTthechildren

Bryn Mawr, PA

#89 Jan 5, 2013
Here are some conflicting reports of what the mother did/felt about leaving her son home alone.

One of several reports saying that the mother didn't like leaving her son alone. Also noted was how they were going to 'care' for Adam after the divorce.

http://www.cbs12.com/news/topstories/stories/...

And yet another report saying he was left alone for 2 1/2 days before the shooting.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/massacre_l...

Even that last report has conflicts in that she didn't trust him around the stove but yet left him alone with a gun collection.

Also noted in that last story that both the Lanza sons/brothers were apparently into military gear. The older brother was apparently just as knowledgable about military equipment.

Which brings to question. Did the mother really introduce her son/s to guns out of the blue? If the brother knew about military equipment where did that interest come from. But the brother didn't go on a mass shooting spree(that we know of, still curious about his id at scene).

The media DOES need to be called out on the picture they are painting.

“'never'”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#90 Jan 5, 2013
NOTthechildren wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't know about the argument the previous day which isn't in the "official" narrative. That's the problem-was there a confrontation and about what.
http://regator.com/p/258630055/newtown_gunman...
And his mom was apparently away the day before getting home the night before the shootings.
The child killer was 'dependent' for money and shelter. But he apparently was not the dysfunctional social introvert that shouldn't be let out of sight either. He apparently didn't need his hand held for normal daily routine as first reported. Early reports have his mom quoted as saying things like don't let him out sight. But yet she was leaving him home alone for several days at a time.
I read one account that he was known around town as being a scary crazy-seeming person, who would stop on the sidewalk and stare into the eyes of passerby. People said he seemed way off the way and e'ffd up. A lot of that of course is judgement- eye contact, social awareness, personal space stuff, but when you do encounter someone like that you know it. I'm coming down on the side of him being drastically dysfunctional.
NOTthechildren

Bryn Mawr, PA

#91 Jan 5, 2013
Citizen44 wrote:
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I read one account that he was known around town as being a scary crazy-seeming person, who would stop on the sidewalk and stare into the eyes of passerby. People said he seemed way off the way and e'ffd up. A lot of that of course is judgement- eye contact, social awareness, personal space stuff, but when you do encounter someone like that you know it. I'm coming down on the side of him being drastically dysfunctional.
I've read other accounts where nobody, no friends or neighbors seem to know nothing about him as well as their being no "official" record of him since 2008.

Alot of 'eye witness' testimony during a normal criminal investigation can be prejudiced. But now already knowing what he did many people will give a slanted account of the individual/event in question. Also alot of people who talk to reporters, friends and/or family want to appear in the know or want to appear to be thinking with the herd. They might say something like "I knew he was trouble" as to appear THEY weren't fooled. Also others might have noticed something but want to appear shocked as in uh oh I've should've done something.
NOTthechildren

Bryn Mawr, PA

#92 Jan 5, 2013
Here is one of the links to no information on Adam Lanza. This about no information on him.

http://beforeitsnews.com/economy/2012/12/the-...

note-grammar correction previous post. Should've said "...no friends or neighbors seemed to know anything about him..."

“Smokin”

Since: May 12

Strawberry Fields of Dreams

#93 Jan 5, 2013
no more drugs wrote:
Not the children,
All we know is that his behavior was worsening.. we dont know if she left him alone, and we have to assume her guns were locked/hidden as we know the shooter went to try and buy a gun just a couple of days before it happened..
She is a victim, and the culprit is the mind altering legally prescribed drugs which clearly state the adverse side affects are exactly what the shooter did..
It is alarming to see how many seemingly intelligent people are allowing themselves to be distracted by guns laws and video games and mental illness, instead of looking at what would cause a person to go out and commit such a heinous act....
We have the answer and its in the black box warnings that are in the pill boxes..
We need to start asking for accountability from our media and demand that the prescribed drugs he was on become aired so we can look for a solution in how these drugs are given and how the people are monitored..
Lets face it.. if the people who take these drugs, knew that it was the drug talking, then there woulnt be black box warnings and millions of violent acts attributed to the se drugs...
Lets speak up..
They know what these drugs do but they aren't telling what he had in his system and I wonder why.

"The correlation between psychiatric drugs and acts of violence and homicide is well documented both by international drug regulatory warnings and studies, as well as by hundreds of cases where high profile acts of violence/mass murder were committed by individuals under the influence of psychiatric drugs.

While there is never one simple explanation for what drives a human being to commit such unspeakable acts, all too often one common denominator has surfaced in hundreds of cases prescribed psychiatric drugs which are documented to cause mania, psychosis, violence, suicide and in some cases, homicidal ideation.

It is an injustice that the general public are not being informed about the well documented links between psychiatric drugs and violence."

http://www.cchrstl.org/wordpress/2012/12/16/a...

“'never'”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#94 Jan 5, 2013
NOTthechildren wrote:
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I've read other accounts where nobody, no friends or neighbors seem to know nothing about him as well as their being no "official" record of him since 2008.
Alot of 'eye witness' testimony during a normal criminal investigation can be prejudiced. But now already knowing what he did many people will give a slanted account of the individual/event in question. Also alot of people who talk to reporters, friends and/or family want to appear in the know or want to appear to be thinking with the herd. They might say something like "I knew he was trouble" as to appear THEY weren't fooled. Also others might have noticed something but want to appear shocked as in uh oh I've should've done something.
I would say neighbors knowing nothing about him feeds the idea that he was very isolated. I agree that after the fact people will sometimes give prejudiced statements though.

Since: Oct 11

Sandy Hook, CT

#95 Jan 5, 2013
Citizen44 wrote:
<quoted text>
I would say neighbors knowing nothing about him feeds the idea that he was very isolated. I agree that after the fact people will sometimes give prejudiced statements though.
....... Isolated and nobody talked to this kid. No doctor, no diagnosis, no prescription, but lots of speculation and rumors. What a nice close-knit community. How about the computer stuff? Stuff he actually posted and wrote.

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