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Lorianne Crolla
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I live in the north end of Bridgeport and the current NET team has made a positive impact in my neighborhood. They were very responsive and effective in handling a situation with a neighboring house.
It is my strong opinion that seniority alone should not qualify an applicant for the NET team. Seniority should be applied only after applicants have passed all the required tests to qualify them. If you cannot pass the test, regardless of seniority, you should not be allowed to join the team.
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the police
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Thats what we are saying too.
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stop it now
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Yah, If we could freelance and do whatever we wanted and not be harassed by the radio constantly for nonsense then we could bang too......
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upyourblogospher e
AOL
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Cops in Bridgeport have an extremely tough job and they all deserve a lot of thanks and recognition. I don't think that anybody questions that 99% of the cops on regular patrol are
as effective as can possibly be expected given the constraints on their time and attention.
The above being said, the N.E.T. unit was a great idea whose time had come. It cannot be denied that the team is uniquely effective. The Chief and the unit need to be given their due...
The question of which cops should be in such a unit must be decided on talent and merit. There should be an application and formal testing process utilizing standardized/accepted methods and criteria. Applicants should be selected based on point scores calculated from their performance records, test scores, and senority -- in that order, and weighted accordingly, so that performance record carries more weight than test scores and test scores carry more weight than senority. In the event that two applicants have total scores that differ by a relatively small number of points (say 10, or less -- based on total scores of 100), then the Chief should make the choice between the two applicants.
But, truly, this unit must not be put in jeopardy because of a power-struggle between the police chief and the union. This situation constitutes an objectifiable "problem" that has an objective solution with a reasonable outcome for all concerned, especially the public, whose interests must come first, in any event. The N.E.T. unit must continue.
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stop it now
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upyourblogosphere wrote: Cops in Bridgeport have an extremely tough job and they all deserve a lot of thanks and recognition. I don't think that anybody questions that 99% of the cops on regular patrol are
as effective as can possibly be expected given the constraints on their time and attention.
The above being said, the N.E.T. unit was a great idea whose time had come. It cannot be denied that the team is uniquely effective. The Chief and the unit need to be given their due...
The question of which cops should be in such a unit must be decided on talent and merit. There should be an application and formal testing process utilizing standardized/accepted methods and criteria. Applicants should be selected based on point scores calculated from their performance records, test scores, and senority -- in that order, and weighted accordingly, so that performance record carries more weight than test scores and test scores carry more weight than senority. In the event that two applicants have total scores that differ by a relatively small number of points (say 10, or less -- based on total scores of 100), then the Chief should make the choice between the two applicants.
But, truly, this unit must not be put in jeopardy because of a power-struggle between the police chief and the union. This situation constitutes an objectifiable "problem" that has an objective solution with a reasonable outcome for all concerned, especially the public, whose interests must come first, in any event. The N.E.T. unit must continue. You obviously don't know anything about Police work..those people that usually "do good" on tests are lousy on the street and end up becoming supervisors...
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pal
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You tell em' (stop it now).. woop woop. Go to New Haven, they picky choosy over there. The citizens will be as protected tomorrow as they were in the early 90's when there was REAL CRIME.
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patrol
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The chief does not realize or seem to care how demoralizing this unit is. He picked some people who certainly were not the most qualified or experienced and then he uses them as the only tool to solve the city's crime problem. All we hear about is the NET team and the rest of the department, especially patrol is neglected. Officers assigned to community policing cars in the mid to late 90's accomplished the same, if not more than the NET team without the departments support or endless resources, all while chasing radio calls. When was the last time NET severely crippled a drug enterprise? Wasn't it a bunch of "regular" street cops who took down Frankie Estrada and the Jones crew?
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sick and tired
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Within the bpd if you want to be in a specialized unit you have go the coopers standard test to get in. senority is used if there is a tie. if an officer can jump through the hoops and had more time then his /her experince could be benificial. no one within the department wants the unit to go away. we belive good work is being done. But to say only nine offciers are keeping this city from caos is a slap in the face to all the other hard working officers that come in and do their job everyday. Why was NET the only unit that did not have to go though those standards.
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Annie
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When the NET unit was being formed, for 5 days straight at each roll call it was announced about the forming of the team. All interested parties shouold fill out an application. Once the apps were reviewed an interview was set up. The 9 people who are on the team were the best suited for the "mission" of the team. I have lived in Bpt all my life and know many of the officers who have been on the job for 20+ years and I know they would not be able to chase down a suspect or would not be the first one through a door. I was there Monday and spoke with and observed the team. They are all very well suited for this job. They are not the only officers doing a good job out on the street they are a complement to the other officers on the force.
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Frustrated BPT Resident
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The first problem is that the union is involved.
If the Chief hand-picked them then whats the problem? He can do so as CHIEF of police, hence the reason for the 6 figure salary, he makes executive decisions for his department as a whole. Just because some rotten apple wants to be a whistle-blower doesn't mean it will change anything.
Since this team has been formed I've heard nothing but Great things about them. Don't let the union cave you in Norwood.
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Frustrated BPT Resident
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stop it now wrote: <quoted text> You obviously don't know anything about Police work..those people that usually "do good" on tests are lousy on the street and end up becoming supervisors... So you must be one of the "Good" ones on the street but did lousy on the test...
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Let Fair Be Fair
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Let me put this situation in a better perspective for those of you who don't know what is really going on here. The City and the Union have a CONTRACT that states, officers must be selected by the senior most persons who qualifies for the job. That is in the CONTRACT that was negotiated for, and signed by a representative of the Union and the CITY. This unit was hand picked, and seniority was not factored into the selection process. Please, don't be fooled into thinking that THIS unit, as composed, is the only unit that can accomplish that which they have. The department has gone through a great expense putting all those stories in the paper to make it seem as though this unit is the City's savior, in anticipation of this moment, because it violates the contract. The RULES. So let me put it in terms that you can relate to. The Bridgeport police department can get every ounce of illegal drugs off of the streets, if they were to kick every door open, and search every residence without the benefit of a search warrant. Unfortunately that violates the Constitution. The RULES. Well this unit, as composed, violates the rules, not through its existence, but through its composition. All the union requests, is that those who compsed this team, follow the rules. Instead, a campaign has been set forth to pit the residents of the city against the union, to trick citizens into thinking that the union does not want the NET unit to exist. That could not be further from the truth. I hope that I have helped to shed some light on this issue.
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Joe Friday
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I don't see this chief being here too much longer.
If cops are so sensative that they were not picked,so be it. Be an adult about it,not all kids who try out for the team make it. Wanting something and getting something are two different things.
The union needs to fight for bigger issues, the contract is up next month. How about keeping the bennies where they are? A raise would be nice,Finch just hit the tax payers up for more money. Fix the stupidity with the detective test. Settle the issue with the rotation and last but not least throw out the remedy order.
For those cops who feel they are not going to do anything because someone may file a complaint against you. Get over that too........
If your right then let them waste their time on a case that is not going to go anywhere. If you stop driving cause you have had an accident then your missing the point. Why does anyone become a cop in Bridgeport? If it is so bad here then why stay? If you only here for the overtime then you have missed the point.
Leave the N.E.T as is,it's working. If you want to do something about it,I suggest that you turn in numbers better then them.
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Come back to reality
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Joe Friday wrote: I don't see this chief being here too much longer.
If cops are so sensative that they were not picked,so be it. Be an adult about it,not all kids who try out for the team make it. Wanting something and getting something are two different things.
The union needs to fight for bigger issues, the contract is up next month. How about keeping the bennies where they are? A raise would be nice,Finch just hit the tax payers up for more money. Fix the stupidity with the detective test. Settle the issue with the rotation and last but not least throw out the remedy order.
For those cops who feel they are not going to do anything because someone may file a complaint against you. Get over that too........
If your right then let them waste their time on a case that is not going to go anywhere. If you stop driving cause you have had an accident then your missing the point. Why does anyone become a cop in Bridgeport? If it is so bad here then why stay? If you only here for the overtime then you have missed the point.
Leave the N.E.T as is,it's working. If you want to do something about it,I suggest that you turn in numbers better then them. The Bridgeport Police Department is the lowest paid department in Fairfield County with the worst police pension in the state. The only thing that the officers have is their seniority. Which they maintained by taking less than the rate of inflation raises over the years because of the city's financial situation. It is my understanding that the Union offered the city and the chief the right of assignment in an attempt to reach a compromise to make the overall benefit package more comparable with police officers in other towns. However the city did not want to work for this remedy. The only thing left is seniority which was maintained at an extremely high cost to the members of the department over the years and as usual the city wants something for nothing.
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Problem After Problem
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The union is the one to blame! As the union attorney told me "The Union is stressed and behind the 8 ball." Well, They should start to get ready for the soon up and coming Sgt.'s test I will let you know after an opening occurs the city has to have a test with 120 days, so you can't say you didn't know! like the poor officers still waiting to be promoted to the rank of Detective even after the judge ordered hiring is to be made off of the first list. The Union should empty the members plates and start fresh with future issues, not try to cover up their MISTAKES they have already made!!!!!!!!!!
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Okay
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Problem After Problem wrote: The union is the one to blame! As the union attorney told me "The Union is stressed and behind the 8 ball." Well, They should start to get ready for the soon up and coming Sgt.'s test I will let you know after an opening occurs the city has to have a test with 120 days, so you can't say you didn't know! like the poor officers still waiting to be promoted to the rank of Detective even after the judge ordered hiring is to be made off of the first list. The Union should empty the members plates and start fresh with future issues, not try to cover up their MISTAKES they have already made!!!!!!!!!! The Union is appealing this decision so that the same problems that happened on this exam don't happen in the future.
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tired of the BS
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Let Fair Be Fair wrote: Let me put this situation in a better perspective for those of you who don't know what is really going on here. The City and the Union have a CONTRACT that states, officers must be selected by the senior most persons who qualifies for the job. That is in the CONTRACT that was negotiated for, and signed by a representative of the Union and the CITY. This unit was hand picked, and seniority was not factored into the selection process. Please, don't be fooled into thinking that THIS unit, as composed, is the only unit that can accomplish that which they have. The department has gone through a great expense putting all those stories in the paper to make it seem as though this unit is the City's savior, in anticipation of this moment, because it violates the contract. The RULES. So let me put it in terms that you can relate to. The Bridgeport police department can get every ounce of illegal drugs off of the streets, if they were to kick every door open, and search every residence without the benefit of a search warrant. Unfortunately that violates the Constitution. The RULES. Well this unit, as composed, violates the rules, not through its existence, but through its composition. All the union requests, is that those who compsed this team, follow the rules. Instead, a campaign has been set forth to pit the residents of the city against the union, to trick citizens into thinking that the union does not want the NET unit to exist. That could not be further from the truth. I hope that I have helped to shed some light on this issue. BRAVO
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Cop Fan
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Lorianne Crolla wrote: I live in the north end of Bridgeport and the current NET team has made a positive impact in my neighborhood. They were very responsive and effective in handling a situation with a neighboring house.
It is my strong opinion that seniority alone should not qualify an applicant for the NET team. Seniority should be applied only after applicants have passed all the required tests to qualify them. If you cannot pass the test, regardless of seniority, you should not be allowed to join the team. There was no selection process. The Chief picked who he wanted. You have to do the cooper standards for everything except being the best of the best team. Not even the SGT could pass and thats a fact jack.
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I Agree
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patrol wrote: The chief does not realize or seem to care how demoralizing this unit is. He picked some people who certainly were not the most qualified or experienced and then he uses them as the only tool to solve the city's crime problem. All we hear about is the NET team and the rest of the department, especially patrol is neglected. Officers assigned to community policing cars in the mid to late 90's accomplished the same, if not more than the NET team without the departments support or endless resources, all while chasing radio calls. When was the last time NET severely crippled a drug enterprise? Wasn't it a bunch of "regular" street cops who took down Frankie Estrada and the Jones crew? The funny thing is that not one of these cops were even on the job or worked the housing projects when the Jones Family and Frankie were out there. I don't even know if they ever even made a drug arrest that resulted in seizure of more than a small amount of drugs. The Chief should have checked before he slapped the faces of other cops who could do the same job.
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Reliable
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I hate to think that the N.E.T. Team will be broken up,but it could happen. All because some people did not get picked or some other reason. Here is another problem, they spend too much time infighting rather then dealing with the bigger issues. Keeping the bennies were they are and a pay that is close to other departments of it's size. I don't know what would improve the morale but it has to come from within.
Where is the leadership? Is everything about money? I know money pays the bills but did anyone become a Bpt officer just to work overtime?
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