Meth freak at the Safeway rock.

Meth freak at the Safeway rock.

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Todd C

Pleasanton, CA

#1 Oct 13, 2013
Get a look at the newest homeless scammer on the rock. Skinny brunette female meth addict.

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#2 Oct 13, 2013
Todd C wrote:
Get a look at the newest homeless scammer on the rock. Skinny brunette female meth addict.
The homeless at the rock change faster than I change my underwear.

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#3 Oct 15, 2013
I was at Safeway today and only saw a guy. It was a middle aged white guy with a hat and a dog. Poor dog.

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#4 Oct 15, 2013
Sometimes I'm more inclined to buy dog food for these people than anything else. There are so many services for homeless people in Livermore. They have the choice to go down and get hot food, showers, clean clothes, etc. But their dogs have no choice.
LittleMiss

United States

#5 Nov 2, 2013
i bet none of you been homeless in your lives. Never had to starve for a day so you can make enough for a hotel for a night. I've been on that rock. I made enough to start life somewhere else. Not everybody that sits on that rock is a scammer/meth head That is a very ignorant thing to say. You don't know their story. so unless you do..i'd suggest you keep your mouth shut.

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#6 Nov 2, 2013
LittleMiss wrote:
i bet none of you been homeless in your lives. Never had to starve for a day so you can make enough for a hotel for a night. I've been on that rock. I made enough to start life somewhere else. Not everybody that sits on that rock is a scammer/meth head That is a very ignorant thing to say. You don't know their story. so unless you do..i'd suggest you keep your mouth shut.
The "main" couple that sat on that rock, were scammers. And sorry Little Miss, you didn't have to starve. If you walked a mile down the road, you would've found a bunch of resources for homeless people.
1Sgt

Pleasanton, CA

#7 Nov 3, 2013
LittleMiss wrote:
i bet none of you been homeless in your lives. Never had to starve for a day so you can make enough for a hotel for a night. I've been on that rock. I made enough to start life somewhere else. Not everybody that sits on that rock is a scammer/meth head That is a very ignorant thing to say. You don't know their story. so unless you do..i'd suggest you keep your mouth shut.
I was drafted and served in the Nam for 9 months, losing a leg in the process. I processed out in Oakland and became homeless and an alcoholic to cope. I never once begged for a damn thing, got my shit together AND GOT A JOB, even though no one was hiring vets at the time because we were despised for being drafted and doing our duty. So don't you DARE question me when I say they are bums who have no work ethic and would rather beg than earn their money with a days work. If you want proof, stop and offer them work for money. You will be AMAZED at the excuses they will give as to why they can't work for their money (but they still have ample time to beg). They are scamming and not paying a dime in taxes.

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#8 Nov 3, 2013
1Sgt wrote:
<quoted text>I was drafted and served in the Nam for 9 months, losing a leg in the process. I processed out in Oakland and became homeless and an alcoholic to cope. I never once begged for a damn thing, got my shit together AND GOT A JOB, even though no one was hiring vets at the time because we were despised for being drafted and doing our duty. So don't you DARE question me when I say they are bums who have no work ethic and would rather beg than earn their money with a days work. If you want proof, stop and offer them work for money. You will be AMAZED at the excuses they will give as to why they can't work for their money (but they still have ample time to beg). They are scamming and not paying a dime in taxes.
Thank you for your post. And thank you for your service. You're absolutely right about the excuses given for not being able to do work in exchange for the money they're begging for. I'm not sure if you're from Livermore and familiar with the couple who was a fixture on the Safeway rock for years. But a few years ago, as my dad was coming out of Lowes the guy was holding a sign saying he needed money for something. My dad said he would give him $50 to come over to our house and help him clean up the yard (it was Fall and there were leaves everywhere, mow the lawn, trim hedges) for two-three hours. He said he couldn't because his foot was hurting. After that, I never gave anymore homeless people money. I did however give a woman (in tow with her two very young children) outside that same Safeway a loaf of bread a few months ago. She just kinda looked at me. No thank you or anything. It was obvious she just wanted money.
meja

United States

#9 Nov 4, 2013
1Sgt wrote:
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I was drafted and served in the Nam for 9 months, losing a leg in the process. I processed out in Oakland and became homeless and an alcoholic to cope. I never once begged for a damn thing, got my shit together AND GOT A JOB, even though no one was hiring vets at the time because we were despised for being drafted and doing our duty. So don't you DARE question me when I say they are bums who have no work ethic and would rather beg than earn their money with a days work. If you want proof, stop and offer them work for money. You will be AMAZED at the excuses they will give as to why they can't work for their money (but they still have ample time to beg). They are scamming and not paying a dime in taxes.
Good for you. And thanks for your service. But nowhere in that post did i 'question you' about bums not having work ethic. Im aware of the actual BUMS that are out there. Lucky for me i never had an alcohol/drug problem. So like i said. NOT EVERYBODY is a bum. Some people dont accept work at peoples houses due tp the DANGER,and all the bad things that could happen. So i really dont blame her for not accepting that offer. Sometimes you just don't know what to say because you dont want to be ridiculed for saying no. You don't know if they're picking up trash in parking lots or washing windows when you DON'T see them there. Yea that couple has issues so im not speaking for or defending them. I just wish you people would stop putting all homeless people in that terrible category. Some people fall on hard times.

@ssophie: Most of the time services were only open twice a week. That's how it was the first month i was homeless. I eventually got food stamps and was able to save money. So for me it wasn't long before i was on the road again.. but sometimes its harder for other people.
1Sgt

Pleasanton, CA

#10 Nov 4, 2013
Ssophiiee wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for your post. And thank you for your service. You're absolutely right about the excuses given for not being able to do work in exchange for the money they're begging for. I'm not sure if you're from Livermore and familiar with the couple who was a fixture on the Safeway rock for years. But a few years ago, as my dad was coming out of Lowes the guy was holding a sign saying he needed money for something. My dad said he would give him $50 to come over to our house and help him clean up the yard (it was Fall and there were leaves everywhere, mow the lawn, trim hedges) for two-three hours. He said he couldn't because his foot was hurting. After that, I never gave anymore homeless people money. I did however give a woman (in tow with her two very young children) outside that same Safeway a loaf of bread a few months ago. She just kinda looked at me. No thank you or anything. It was obvious she just wanted money.
I live in Oakland, but run contracting crews in the East Bay. We actually helped build the Arroyo Shopping Center, Lucky's Plaza on Portola, and numerous other retail centers in Livermore. We recently did a remodel for a restaurant that got plowed into by a car. During four of our jobs, we have offered work, manual labor with no skills required, to local homeless because our site manager had a homeless situation with a relative and feels obligated (a very decent man). Not one "homeless person" that begged in public took up a job offer. The begging is a scam used for centuries and in all cultures. The true homeless who we're living nearby under an overpass accepted work and we still have two employed. The others were addicts, too undependable, stole, and were let go. The beggars who were at Home Depot/WalMart were actually Roma style traveling beggers who beg and steal, as that is their chosen profession and is quite common worldwide. The practice of giving Alms to the poor is what started the trend of professional begging and scamming. Trust me, they have plenty of money, nice cars, and don't have to pay taxes. The others are looking for alcohol or drug money and they refuse to work.
1Sgt

Pleasanton, CA

#11 Nov 4, 2013
meja wrote:
<quoted text>Good for you. And thanks for your service. But nowhere in that post did i 'question you' about bums not having work ethic. Im aware of the actual BUMS that are out there. Lucky for me i never had an alcohol/drug problem. So like i said. NOT EVERYBODY is a bum. Some people dont accept work at peoples houses due tp the DANGER,and all the bad things that could happen. So i really dont blame her for not accepting that offer. Sometimes you just don't know what to say because you dont want to be ridiculed for saying no. You don't know if they're picking up trash in parking lots or washing windows when you DON'T see them there. Yea that couple has issues so im not speaking for or defending them. I just wish you people would stop putting all homeless people in that terrible category. Some people fall on hard times.

@ssophie: Most of the time services were only open twice a week. That's how it was the first month i was homeless. I eventually got food stamps and was able to save money. So for me it wasn't long before i was on the road again.. but sometimes its harder for other people.
I'm glad you are a homeless advocate and God bless you for doing it. We should all give what we can, when we can. That being said, the fact is the majority of them are conning people who are uninformed about their true motives and want to feel good by giving them money. These so called beggers laugh their way to the bank every time. There is plenty of work out there, but they just don't seem to want to work. When did you last see an Asian begger? Why are there so few Hispanic beggers? Because they WORK!
Oct

Woodland Hills, CA

#12 Nov 4, 2013
Many of the homeless are mentally ill. Sure, there are some who may scam. There are non-homeless people who do the same thing, but you cannot truly say the "majority" of the homeless are scammers simply because you likely do not have the numbers to back up your claim. If I am incorrect, please, share your data.
As far as Asian and Hispanic homeless - you are full of crap. Have you ever worked in a homeless shelter? I volunteered for three years in one of San Francisco's well known shelters. Clearly, you do not know what you're talking about.

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#13 Nov 4, 2013
meja wrote:
<quoted text>Good for you. And thanks for your service. But nowhere in that post did i 'question you' about bums not having work ethic. Im aware of the actual BUMS that are out there. Lucky for me i never had an alcohol/drug problem. So like i said. NOT EVERYBODY is a bum. Some people dont accept work at peoples houses due tp the DANGER,and all the bad things that could happen. So i really dont blame her for not accepting that offer. Sometimes you just don't know what to say because you dont want to be ridiculed for saying no. You don't know if they're picking up trash in parking lots or washing windows when you DON'T see them there. Yea that couple has issues so im not speaking for or defending them. I just wish you people would stop putting all homeless people in that terrible category. Some people fall on hard times.

@ssophie: Most of the time services were only open twice a week. That's how it was the first month i was homeless. I eventually got food stamps and was able to save money. So for me it wasn't long before i was on the road again.. but sometimes its harder for other people.
It was the guy that my dad offered to come work at our house. And even tho he's my dad, he's a pretty non-threatening guy. And I'm pretty sure he had my little brother in the car at the time, who was like 14 at the time.
Sal

Oakland, CA

#14 Nov 4, 2013
There is no need for anybody to be begging in public. I went to the LPD open forum held last year and they had representatives from all the shelters that offer food and shelter every night and hardly nobody shows up because you have to be sober or you are turned away. These individuals on the rock choose to beg and be homeless. Don't feel sorry for them
1Sgt

Pleasanton, CA

#15 Nov 4, 2013
Sal wrote:
There is no need for anybody to be begging in public. I went to the LPD open forum held last year and they had representatives from all the shelters that offer food and shelter every night and hardly nobody shows up because you have to be sober or you are turned away. These individuals on the rock choose to beg and be homeless. Don't feel sorry for them
Good point regarding the many county and local resources for the homeless. As you so correctly stated, they are there to collect tax free money, drug money, or money to buy more booze.
Oct

Woodland Hills, CA

#16 Nov 5, 2013
Sal wrote:
There is no need for anybody to be begging in public. I went to the LPD open forum held last year and they had representatives from all the shelters that offer food and shelter every night and hardly nobody shows up because you have to be sober or you are turned away. These individuals on the rock choose to beg and be homeless. Don't feel sorry for them
And, just because some have an addiction does not mean they may not have a mental illness, and it does not mean they don't need help. One does not "choose" to have an addiction, and sometimes it's force one cannot fight on their own.

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#17 Nov 5, 2013
There is a homeless guy in Livermore who writes a blog on The Patch. Even he says not to give money to the homeless beggars. He says there are so many resources in Livermore, there is no need for them to beg for money. And when they are, it's often for drugs or alcohol. And that is coming from a local homeless person!!

Source: Christian Holm on The Patch Livermore
Sal

Oakland, CA

#18 Nov 5, 2013
Oct wrote:
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And, just because some have an addiction does not mean they may not have a mental illness, and it does not mean they don't need help. One does not "choose" to have an addiction, and sometimes it's force one cannot fight on their own.
Confirmed mental illness and documented addiction will get you a disability check every month. Still no need to beg.
Oct

San Ramon, CA

#19 Nov 6, 2013
Sal wrote:
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Confirmed mental illness and documented addiction will get you a disability check every month. Still no need to beg.
Oh, how I wish that were true. Shelters, at least at the time I was volunteering, are full of people trying to get some kind of financial aid. It's not as easy as, just filing a claim, and "boom", instant money.
Oct

San Ramon, CA

#20 Nov 6, 2013
Ssophiiee wrote:
There is a homeless guy in Livermore who writes a blog on The Patch. Even he says not to give money to the homeless beggars. He says there are so many resources in Livermore, there is no need for them to beg for money. And when they are, it's often for drugs or alcohol. And that is coming from a local homeless person!!
Source: Christian Holm on The Patch Livermore
Buy them a meal, make little care packages, blankets, etc... you don't have to give cash. Some do scam, but not all. Help where you can, when you can.

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