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Since: Dec 12

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#146 Jan 5, 2013
Big Mike wrote:
You never once heard the young boys complaining.
Just curious... where did you expect to see them "complain"? On TV perhaps? Yes, that would make sense - put two teenage boys in the public eye just so ignorant people can get the scoop. Like they haven't been through enough ridicule at the hands of people like you.
Big Mike

San Francisco, CA

#147 Jan 6, 2013
MOTY wrote:
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Just curious... where did you expect to see them "complain"? On TV perhaps? Yes, that would make sense - put two teenage boys in the public eye just so ignorant people can get the scoop. Like they haven't been through enough ridicule at the hands of people like you.
How about complaining to some authority figure(ie...Police, Principal). These boys kept their mouths shut because they were enjoying every minute of it. It wasn't until one of the parents found out that it was reported to the police by that parent.

Since: Dec 12

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#148 Jan 7, 2013
Big Mike wrote:
<quoted text>How about complaining to some authority figure(ie...Police, Principal). These boys kept their mouths shut because they were enjoying every minute of it. It wasn't until one of the parents found out that it was reported to the police by that parent.
Your ignorance about child sexual abuse is horrifying. Educate yourself.
Big Mike

San Francisco, CA

#149 Jan 8, 2013
MOTY wrote:
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Your ignorance about child sexual abuse is horrifying. Educate yourself.
My Ignorance? Obviously you're the one who needs to be educated. We're not talking about little children here. We're talking about horny teenage boys! There is a very big difference.
move away

Livermore, CA

#150 Jan 8, 2013
Maybe you can all move on like the families are trying to do instead of rehashing it all again. People who are ignorant of sexual abuse male or female will never change their mind until it happens to someone close to them or someone they know and they can see what it really does to someone. Mike, Quit trying to glorify what happened when you have no idea of what the ramifications were to the boys and families and I'm referring to all families involved, the boys and the pedophiles family. You have no idea of what really happened and how sick Hubbs really is since it didn't go to trial. You have no idea how manipulative she is. She will be out of prison by Feb. 10th and they are now living in Brentwood. Curiously enough the kids are still going to school in Livermore. I'm sure we'll hear about her again. People like that don't change and save your breath about her children seeing this. You people don't care if the victims or their families are this. If people don't like what's said they don't have to read it.
Amused

Livermore, CA

#151 Jan 8, 2013
Big Mike wrote:
<quoted text>How about complaining to some authority figure(ie...Police, Principal). These boys kept their mouths shut because they were enjoying every minute of it. It wasn't until one of the parents found out that it was reported to the police by that parent.
I'm sure you are only "Big Mike" in your own mind. But getting back to point, it sure seems like you wish it was yourself having a fling with this child rapist. You may want to consult a therapist before you are arrested for child porn or worse.
Big Mike

San Francisco, CA

#152 Jan 8, 2013
Amused wrote:
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I'm sure you are only "Big Mike" in your own mind. But getting back to point, it sure seems like you wish it was yourself having a fling with this child rapist. You may want to consult a therapist before you are arrested for child porn or worse.
I am not saying what she did was right. She is a sick woman who needs help and hopefully she is getting that treatment behind bars. The only point I'm trying to make is that these teenage boys (not little children) knew what she was doing was wrong but still went along with it. They even bragged about what was happening to their friends. She never threatened them so they didn't fear her. BTW..I don't exactly what point you're trying to make but I have no interest in having a fling with her and the thought of child porn makes me sick.

Since: Sep 12

San Leandro, CA

#153 Jan 8, 2013
Amused wrote:
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I'm sure you are only "Big Mike" in your own mind. But getting back to point, it sure seems like you wish it was yourself having a fling with this child rapist. You may want to consult a therapist before you are arrested for child porn or worse.
to you and MOTY, you read way to much into stuff. Your opinions are way too strong on what other people are saying, versus what the guilty party did. Take a few deep breaths and stop being a troll.

Since: Sep 12

San Leandro, CA

#154 Jan 8, 2013
MOTY wrote:
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Just curious... where did you expect to see them "complain"? On TV perhaps? Yes, that would make sense - put two teenage boys in the public eye just so Ignorant people can get the scoop. Like they haven't been through enough ridicule at the hands of people like you.
Your post was written hastily. What justifies what he says as ridiculing these kids? And who are you to judge him on a simple clean comment? He's right, this generation is fixated on cougars, and these kids were not forced into doing this. No one is judging the kids because the fact is they are KIDS, we are saying that this was a consentual thing. The only person that deserves public ridicule is Christine, she's an adult and should have acted like one.

Since: Dec 12

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#155 Jan 8, 2013
MourningWood wrote:
<quoted text>Your post was written hastily. What justifies what he says as ridiculing these kids? And who are you to judge him on a simple clean comment? He's right, this generation is fixated on cougars, and these kids were not forced into doing this. No one is judging the kids because the fact is they are KIDS, we are saying that this was a consentual thing. The only person that deserves public ridicule is Christine, she's an adult and should have acted like one.
Your use of the word "consentual" as it relates to sex between a barely teenage boy and a 40 year old woman is proof enough that you, too, need to educate yourself on the entire subject matter. Christine Hubbs is a child sexual predator, not a cougar.

Since: Sep 12

Livermore, CA

#156 Jan 9, 2013
MOTY wrote:
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Your use of the word "consentual" as it relates to sex between a barely teenage boy and a 40 year old woman is proof enough that you, too, need to educate yourself on the entire subject matter. Christine Hubbs is a child sexual predator, not a cougar.
You're being blinded by your opinion and haven't seen that we agree with you.

Since: Dec 12

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#157 Jan 9, 2013
MourningWood wrote:
<quoted text>You're being blinded by your opinion and haven't seen that we agree with you.
If you, too, believe that the children "enjoyed every bit of it" and were "not forced" to participate, then there is no way we share the same opinion. The only thing I'm blinded by is the ignorant comments made about this case, and other cases of the same nature. It would be interesting to see how your opinions would change if a child in your family was abused in the same way. It's one of the worst things that can happen to a young man... just ask the men sitting behind bars who were abused and have turned to a life of crime to numb the pain. Open your eyes and your ears.
Big Mike

San Francisco, CA

#158 Jan 9, 2013
MOTY wrote:
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If you, too, believe that the children "enjoyed every bit of it" and were "not forced" to participate, then there is no way we share the same opinion. The only thing I'm blinded by is the ignorant comments made about this case, and other cases of the same nature. It would be interesting to see how your opinions would change if a child in your family was abused in the same way. It's one of the worst things that can happen to a young man... just ask the men sitting behind bars who were abused and have turned to a life of crime to numb the pain. Open your eyes and your ears.
I'm starting to get the feeling that this subject is hitting a little to close to home for you. If you haven't had any therapy, you might think of getting some. Your narrow minded rants are starting to give you away. Get some help!

“Stupidity Leak”

Since: Sep 11

Woodsboro

#159 Jan 12, 2013
MourningWood wrote:
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Rot in jail? She didn't RAPE anyone. Seems a little harsh for the crime.
You would be OK with your 14 year old son or daughter or niece/nephew sleeping with your adult neighbor??
Stan

San Francisco, CA

#160 Jan 12, 2013
Session_Whine wrote:
<quoted text>You would be OK with your 14 year old son or daughter or niece/nephew sleeping with your adult neighbor??
A 14 yr. old is old enough to know right from wrong. In this type of situation they share some of the blame.
move away

Livermore, CA

#161 Jan 12, 2013
Stan wrote:
<quoted text>A 14 yr. old is old enough to know right from wrong. In this type of situation they share some of the blame.

It's far more than the physical aspect of the situation. 14 year olds, girls or boys, aren't mature enough to fully grasp the emotional attachments of a sexual relationship. Plus add to the fact that an adult is likely to manipulate the situation with a young person and the do their damage emotionally. Until you've been through it or have seen the real damage this can do you really have no idea of what you're talking about.
Stan

San Francisco, CA

#162 Jan 12, 2013
Damage? please spare me...these days, a 14 yr. old knows what the hell is going on. Stop making excuses for the teenagers. They knew damn well what the hell was going on. The adult here is guilty, but stop painting the teens as innocent victims..again they are not little children.

Since: Sep 12

Pleasanton, CA

#163 Jan 12, 2013
MOTY wrote:
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If you, too, believe that the children "enjoyed every bit of it" and were "not forced" to participate, then there is no way we share the same opinion. The only thing I'm blinded by is the ignorant comments made about this case, and other cases of the same nature. It would be interesting to see how your opinions would change if a child in your family was abused in the same way. It's one of the worst things that can happen to a young man... just ask the men sitting behind bars who were abused and have turned to a life of crime to numb the pain. Open your eyes and your ears.
are you female? I'm not asking to be a jerk I am legitimately curious.

Since: Sep 12

San Leandro, CA

#164 Jan 12, 2013
move away wrote:
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It's far more than the physical aspect of the situation. 14 year olds, girls or boys, aren't mature enough to fully grasp the emotional attachments of a sexual relationship. Plus add to the fact that an adult is likely to manipulate the situation with a young person and the do their damage emotionally. Until you've been through it or have seen the real damage this can do you really have no idea of what you're talking about.
I see where you are coming from, and I agree manipulation was a big part of this, hence the giving out of money and whatnot. And I totally agree, their brains are not developed enough to fully grasp the concept of their actions. However, I am a victim of sexual abuse and I never got paid or adorned in gifts, I was instead forced into a situation with a much stronger person that would not let me leave. So I do have some knowledge on the subject. This on the other hand seems like a much more laid back situation, hence why I went the consentual route.

Honestly with how advertising has changed over the years, sex is much more prevalent in our society, as though it is something to strive for at an early age. For christs sake look at "16 and pregnant," even though a licensed sex addiction therapist tried to make it as real as possible to show how difficult it is to have a kid or even deal with the pressures that come along with having sex at a young age, what did kids across the United States do? Tried to get pregnant to be on tv. Sex has been glorified for all ages, it's not an excuse it's a fact. And as long as we are delving into the undeveloped brain we can use the arguement that all these kids knew is that it felt good, but at 14 years of age I was not functioning at the level of a 6 year old . I for one do not believe that these kids saw anything wrong with what was happening, that is my opinion based on the facts presented. So "MONTY" you can continue to live in your reality where the kids are angels, it does not befront me. However, your lack of reluctance to ridicule others for their opinions needs work. And just to make it clear, I'm not taking the FOX news approach and blaming TV, I am just saying it doesn't help the situation.
giantsfan

Pleasanton, CA

#165 Jan 13, 2013
I can say firsthand that I witnessed this situation as my daughter was friends with Lexi and knew all the boys involved. Yes, the boys knew what they were doing was wrong, but Christine was completly controlling them. She showered them with money and presents and then threatened to remove all the perks when she felt they were not under her control. She used to get info from Lexi about what the boys were doing and then reprimand them when she found out if they were doing things that she didn't approve of. It was a very sick control that she had over them to feed her mental illness. She is a sick women and needed to be put away. I knew her personally and was always afraid that her looks and wealth got in the way of her having a normal life. It certainly did and I wish her the best as the reenters life ouitside prison. Mostly I feel so sorry for her kids as they have had to experience firsthand what no child should have to experience. The boys are doing fine, but they too have to live with the fact this happened to them and the mental challanges it will cause them having a normal sexual relationship in years to come. While i am sure they fully enjoyed themselves, it was not normal or acceptable and they fully understand this. I know both of them personally and they will get thru life just fine, but don't think for a minute this has not been tramatic for them. The more the public just lets this be history the better everyone will be. Can we all just let this go and let them all live their lives?

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