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Toyota Dealership in North Livermore project cancelled?

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jjj

Pleasanton, CA

#1 Oct 11, 2008
I see no work going on there, and Im hoping it is because of the economy. Toyota sales are off more than GM or Ford, actually. So it would be nice to see them have to cancel this or substantially delay it until people want to buy new cars again.
David CA

United States

#2 Oct 14, 2008
The entire project seems to be going pretty slowly anyway. The trees were all cut down, then like 2 months later they removed the stumps. Then another month later they remove the old houses. I would bet it is still on.
jjj

Aliso Viejo, CA

#3 Oct 20, 2008
Yah, we shall see. It just seems a very foolish business decision given the problems in the economy. I just don't see how a car dealership is going to turn a profit? People aren't buying new cars, and Toyota was hit harder than even GM, which is apparently failing due to their cash situation and exposure to bad loans. How long can Toyota hang on?

Toyota sales were off more than 20% YOY. And there is the giant Toyota dealer in Dublin, just 10 minutes drive away. I can't see anyone wanting to lay out millions they might never get back let alone get back quickly enough to justify all the trouble.
Jeff Gold

Spokane, WA

#4 Oct 28, 2009
What is the name of the Toyota Dealership?
DojoRat

AOL

#5 Oct 28, 2009
In regards to not doing it due to the economy, I disagree. It's not like this dealership is going to pop up overnight. I think they projected opening isn't until 2011?

The last thing you want is for the economy to have made it's turn, people start buying and only THEN do you start breaking ground.

Seems to me the timing is perfect. By the time it's done, the economy should be pretty strong again, and people will be looking to buy.
Anon

Pleasanton, CA

#6 Oct 28, 2009
I think anyone would be foolish to spend millions to build a car dealership when sales are still falling and the car business can only be projected to suffer from price erosion and higher regulatory and operating costs in the near term.

The idea they might be waiting to see what will happen is not unreasonable. IF they needed to hurry, you could build a dealership in a few months. There isn't much to these kinds of facilities, its mostly parking lot and warehouse. Only a small portion (the showroom, some offices) needs to be built to Class-A office space standards.
Raider Fan

Santa Clara, CA

#7 Oct 28, 2009
I agree with Rat - and Anon, no one cares what you think. You have alterior motives for your negativity and you are a loon.
Anon

Pleasanton, CA

#8 Oct 30, 2009
Everyone has motives, but whether they are ULTERIOR (you sure you graduated?) or not is irrelevant. Besides, I have stated the reasons for my objections to the dealership very plainly, very frankly. Why you would have any reason to believe that I have some hidden agenda is beyond me. I'm just a resident of the area who believes strongly that this project is a bad idea, and I've been vocal, but hardly outspoken.

Remember that the meeting drew over 200 residents who showed up to oppose the project. None of the attendees were in favor. The only people who really support this project either live so far away that they don't perceive any threat/danger to themselves and they don't care about the others to whom there is an effect, or they are interested in other things besides the well being of residents. Namely, the city council, which seems to be focused on greed - getting money from sales taxes.
Eee

Santa Clara, CA

#9 Oct 30, 2009
yeah - duh danon, that is the whole point for any store in any city you dummy. this dealership does not affect you - you are just a negative bitter lonely dummy. Have you gotten a virus on your computer yet???? if not, well, it's coming.
Eee

Santa Clara, CA

#10 Oct 30, 2009
no one cares about you....

where the cows live - did you care about them?
noooo

growth is a part of life. get over it danon.
gregg

San Ramon, CA

#11 Nov 1, 2009
Anon wrote:
I think anyone would be foolish to spend millions to build a car dealership when sales are still falling and the car business can only be projected to suffer from price erosion and higher regulatory and operating costs in the near term.
The idea they might be waiting to see what will happen is not unreasonable. IF they needed to hurry, you could build a dealership in a few months. There isn't much to these kinds of facilities, its mostly parking lot and warehouse. Only a small portion (the showroom, some offices) needs to be built to Class-A office space standards.
wtf??? you dont have a clue buddy. Build a dealership in a few months? Clearly your welfare checks dont allow you to get out in the world and see what is involved in this type of facility. I see your posts to so many of the local news. you must proud to hide behind your computer making stupid and uneducated posts when the real world is passing you by
Anon

Pleasanton, CA

#12 Nov 1, 2009
gregg wrote:
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wtf??? you dont have a clue buddy. Build a dealership in a few months? Clearly your welfare checks dont allow you to get out in the world and see what is involved in this type of facility. I see your posts to so many of the local news. you must proud to hide behind your computer making stupid and uneducated posts when the real world is passing you by
Yep, these building are just tilt-ups like any other mass produced industrial office space. And that's for "high end construction", the low end, such as is suitable for the service bays and detail shop and warehouse, is steel beam and cinderblock (basically like what you'd build for any retail display/warehouse space).

The only really conventional piece of it requiring much architectural detail is the showroom/facade. That's it. And the rest is parking lot.

Remember how fast the new Livermore auto mall next to 580 went up? It went up in a few months. There's nothing to it. How about Kaiser, class A office space, up in less than 60 days, fully fitted in 120. Not a problem.

DojoRat

AOL

#13 Nov 1, 2009
Anon: As you said, the building and construction and whatnot doesn't take long at all. What takes forever is the all the blue-tape you have to cut through. It's the environmental reports (which for a car dealership there will be a ton of), the zoning requirements, the licensing, the this, the that, and everything else that takes forever. I don't know the details, but I'll bet you the automall next to 580 and the Kaiser space were long time in the planning before the first shovel of dirt hit the ground.

You can certainly make a case that all that blue-tape is unnecessary, but that's a whole other conversation all together.
Anon

Pleasanton, CA

#14 Nov 1, 2009
You're not wrong, but I recall reading that they already did the EIR and the permitting wasn't an issue either, zoning was already apparently ok for light industrial/retail or whatever a car dealer is considered (there's automotive repair on the other side of Vasco already and on the other side of 580).

Really what the city is doing with pretty much any new business that wants to come here is fast tracking applications, inspections, permitting issues, requests for zoning modifications, etc, because economic development is a priority. They are all about the money now. 5 years ago they were all about preserving the look and feel of the community, and keeping out big bad home builders (nevermind that 1000 homes all paying property taxes, and those parcel taxes, would put a lot more money into the system than a freaking car dealer that will be struggling to sell 5 cars a day)
Tax Payer

Santa Clara, CA

#16 Nov 3, 2009
Probably a good thing those homes did not get built... I invision that would have been catasrophic with foreclosures.

I'd like to see something done with that land - like get rid of those Garamedendi signs, wtf? It looks trashy in there. The city needs to stay on top of that.
scooby

Dublin, CA

#17 Nov 4, 2009
is this near teh los positas college area?
Ale

San Jose, CA

#18 Feb 9, 2012
Now (as of 2012), is this project still on?
Mr Hand

Davis, CA

#19 Mar 8, 2012
Yes, Robin Groth is spearheading it.
Throbbin Growth

Manteca, CA

#20 Mar 9, 2012
Mr Hand wrote:
Yes, Robin Groth is spearheading it.
Yes, I spearheaded it right into the ground.
Doug Hole

Livermore, CA

#21 Mar 9, 2012
"Throbbin Growth" your name is amusing thanks for the chuckle

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