Somina

San Francisco, CA

#33 Dec 1, 2012
Me ya sa ka yi nufi?
shopper

Livermore, CA

#34 Dec 2, 2012
Add their rudeness and total cluelessness to the Outlets masses and be even more annoyed. I went there opening weekend and it was a madhouse anyway, but these Asians, Indians were so downright rude at that place it made me want to smack them. They walk in front of you SLOWLY and then stand there clueless about where to go next while you are trying to just walk forward. They have no manners nor do they care. And in the parking lot, the one next to me hit my car while opening their door and didn't even apologize. Clueless! Annoying! That place is totally been taken over by them since it opened as well.
Question

Durhamville, NY

#36 Dec 5, 2012
shopper wrote:
Add their rudeness and total cluelessness to the Outlets masses and be even more annoyed. I went there opening weekend and it was a madhouse anyway, but these Asians, Indians were so downright rude at that place it made me want to smack them. They walk in front of you SLOWLY and then stand there clueless about where to go next while you are trying to just walk forward. They have no manners nor do they care. And in the parking lot, the one next to me hit my car while opening their door and didn't even apologize. Clueless! Annoying! That place is totally been taken over by them since it opened as well.
You obviously have had to go shopping with my Caucasian elderly mother in law.
Sally

Livermore, CA

#38 Dec 5, 2012
Sal - you're not a racist or a realist, just an f*cking idiot. Thanks to you,'the real anon', and 'jim' for helping perpetuate the redneck Livermoron stereotype. Y'all are winners!
shopper

Livermore, CA

#40 Jan 13, 2013
I can say with experience that these folks are rude and irrating. I work at the outlets and have to deal with them daily. I would say they comprise about 80% of the traffic on the weekends and it makes it difficult for most people to want to deal with. I have heard of so many problems in the parking area from them hitting other cars while trying to park or leave. They can't drive, they are clueless and rude. One customer said she witnessed Asian lady hit the side of her car while pulling in, then get out and start to walk in to shop without even looking at the damage she caused! This gal was livid as she seen it walking out to leave and seen the whole thing. The Asian lady claimed to be clueless and not speak english like that would get her out of it. Geeze
Lisa

San Ramon, CA

#42 Jan 14, 2013
shopper wrote:
I can say with experience that these folks are rude and irrating. I work at the outlets and have to deal with them daily. I would say they comprise about 80% of the traffic on the weekends and it makes it difficult for most people to want to deal with. I have heard of so many problems in the parking area from them hitting other cars while trying to park or leave. They can't drive, they are clueless and rude. One customer said she witnessed Asian lady hit the side of her car while pulling in, then get out and start to walk in to shop without even looking at the damage she caused! This gal was livid as she seen it walking out to leave and seen the whole thing. The Asian lady claimed to be clueless and not speak english like that would get her out of it. Geeze
Ya, they pretend that they can't speak English until you call the cops.

Since: Sep 12

Pleasanton, CA

#44 Jan 17, 2013
shopper wrote:
I can say with experience that these folks are rude and irrating. I work at the outlets and have to deal with them daily. I would say they comprise about 80% of the traffic on the weekends and it makes it difficult for most people to want to deal with. I have heard of so many problems in the parking area from them hitting other cars while trying to park.Or leave. They can't drive, they are clueless and rude. One customer said she witnessed Asian lady. Hit the side of her car while pulling in, then get out and start to walk in to shop without even looking at the damage she caused! This gal was livid as she seen it walking out to leave and seen the whole thing. The Asian lady claimed to be clueless and not speak english like that would get her out of it. Geeze
The phrase "they can't drive" shows that you are biased toward this type of thinking. I've had more problems with female drivers in general than any one race. Not basing this off of stereotypes but I have noticed more women doing things in there vehicles that are foolish and dangerous than men (#1 in cell phone use, no turn signals, sudden braking, speeding, applying makeup, eating, terrible parking skills.) As for annoying people, chances are some other person has thought that same exact thing about you at some point or another. Also I'm pretty sure if you traveled to seoul or beijing , you would be considered rude or annoying. Keep in mind some of these people are here to escape their countries crazy prosicution, yet they only find a bigger circle of people who dislike them.

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#45 Jan 17, 2013
MourningWood wrote:
<quoted text>The phrase "they can't drive" shows that you are biased toward this type of thinking. I've had more problems with female drivers in general than any one race. Not basing this off of stereotypes but I have noticed more women doing things in there vehicles that are foolish and dangerous than men (#1 in cell phone use, no turn signals, sudden braking, speeding, applying makeup, eating, terrible parking skills.) As for annoying people, chances are some other person has thought that same exact thing about you at some point or another. Also I'm pretty sure if you traveled to seoul or beijing , you would be considered rude or annoying. Keep in mind some of these people are here to escape their countries crazy prosicution, yet they only find a bigger circle of people who dislike them.
"Keep in mind some of these people are here to escape their countries crazy prosicution, yet they only find a bigger circle of people who dislike them."
That's fine. I support that. But assimilation, please! Many Asian countries are so populated that walking anywhere requires bumping into many people. But that's not the case here. If you're going to go to another country, especially to live, learn the ins and outs of the culture-what is acceptable and what's not. Learn manners and public decency standards. I try to do the same things when I travel abroad, and I'm only visiting.

Since: Sep 12

Pleasanton, CA

#46 Jan 18, 2013
Ssophiiee wrote:
<quoted text>
"Keep in mind some of these people are here to escape their countries crazy prosicution, yet they only find a bigger circle of people who dislike them."
That's fine. I support that. But assimilation, please! Many Asian countries are so populated that walking anywhere requires bumping into many people. But that's not the case here. If you're going to go to another country, especially to live, learn the ins and outs of the culture-what is acceptable and what's not. Learn manners and public decency standards. I try to do the same things when I travel abroad, and I'm only visiting.
I agree but it is not my job or yours or anyone elses to make an irrational decision of a race based on what you have experienced in the bay area for crying out loud. We have so many opinions but nothing serious to apply them to so we start picking out races? Btw ssophiiee I am not directing this towards you just this thread. Believe it or not I know you and you know me. If there is anything I've learned from livermore is that there are too many people clinging to an extreme side and not trying to see the similarities. Becauase every single one of us americans is perfect right? I guess the thing I am trying to say is that this post started on a negative note and will probably end on one. Also since when did we get the right to place everyone in a certain nationality into a category. I have heard nothing more than vague stereotypical verbal diarrhea on this post. It's so one sided it might as well be gilbert grape's mom's car.

Since: Sep 12

Pleasanton, CA

#47 Jan 18, 2013
Also learning the mannerisms of another country takes time. Let's not be so hasty to judge a race, I personally have had zero problems with asians other than a couple traffic snaffoos (driving under the speed limit or not signaling.)

Since: Sep 12

Pleasanton, CA

#48 Jan 18, 2013
Ssophiiee wrote:
Asians, what about Indian people? I've had many far worse experiences with them.
just going back to this to show that you were starting to break this into an educated debate but somehow it never got past how bad asians are at driving or walking.

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#49 Jan 18, 2013
MourningWood wrote:
<quoted text>just going back to this to show that you were starting to break this into an educated debate but somehow it never got past how bad asians are at driving or walking.
To my response about Indian people-I can seriously attribute a trait to them that I can no other race. Take that as you wish. If you know me like you say I do, then you know where I work. For some reason, with Indian people, they feel they never need to pay the price quoted. It's as if they're always entitled to some special or deal. They'll ask for a discount before, agree to that price, but then ask for another one after we've already done the job. No one else does that. Sure people ask if we have any specials or coupons, but before the job is done. And then they won't haggle over ten dollars after. I've been working in the business that I do for over three years and have seen this over and over again.

I'm an extremely open minded person. I'm the child of an immigrant. But from my dad's stories, he couldn't assimilate and learn the American way fast enough. He would record tv shows, memorize lines, say them out loud, then listen to the line on the tv show to see how he did, and adjust as needed. All to get rid of his accent so he wouldn't be seen as different. I've known many other recent immigrants who worked very hard to assimilate and adjust. Sure, it takes time to learn these things. But many of the immigrants we live, even in the Tri-Valley, have been here for a very long time and have made little effort to assimilate-I know some of them as well (friends parents and customers).

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#50 Jan 18, 2013
MourningWood wrote:
Also learning the mannerisms of another country takes time. Let's not be so hasty to judge a race, I personally have had zero problems with asians other than a couple traffic snaffoos (driving under the speed limit or not signaling.)
I think my biggest frustration with any person of any race is when there is a lack of desire or effort of assimilation. But maybe I'm just tougher. My dad had to do it by himself in Boston at 15 years old as an Iranian during the Hostage Crisis. That wasn't easy. I've spent lengths of time in Iran myself, and have had to assimilate to that culture. And then back to American culture after being in Iran for nine months. It's doable. And I'm not saying people should come to the US and lose their native heritage and culture;it's just finding a balance. Do not cut in front of me in line at Safeway or pick your nose/snap your mouth really loud (even tho that's okay back in India or China), but teach your kids your native language, cook traditional food, and celebrate cultural holidays.

Since: Sep 12

Richmond, CA

#51 Jan 19, 2013
Well to clear the air I want to side with you, I have had tons more negative interactions with indian people rather than asians. I can speak from security experience (first hint to how you know me) that they present more of a hassle for the exact reasons that you stated. Haggling must be a big part of their culture because I cannot count how many times they have tried to buy me off for special treatment. Also working retail in the past I know exactly what you are talking about with the price negotiations. Often times in those settings the people are so stubborn that they will not leave you alone until they feel they have gotten something for nothing. This is strictly a judgment based only on the people I have encountered personally... not through a third party.

Since: Sep 12

Richmond, CA

#52 Jan 19, 2013
Ssophiiee wrote:
<quoted text>
I think my biggest frustration with any person of any race is when there is a lack of desire or effort of assimilation. But maybe I'm just tougher. My dad had to do it by himself in Boston at 15 years old as an Iranian during the Hostage Crisis. That wasn't easy. I've spent lengths of time in Iran myself, and have had to assimilate to that culture. And then back to American culture after being in Iran for nine months. It's doable. And I'm not saying people should come to the US and lose their native heritage and culture;it's just finding a balance. Do not cut in front of me in line at Safeway or pick your nose/snap your mouth really loud (even tho that's okay back in India or China), but teach your kids your native language, cook traditional food, and celebrate cultural holidays.
true there are basic manners that are easy to pick up on, and it does irritate me when there is obviously no effort to acclimate to new surroundings and environments. However I do not think that nose picking is an issue for me, but digging inside the back of your pants furiously enough to break a sweat does.

Since: Sep 12

Richmond, CA

#53 Jan 19, 2013
MourningWood wrote:
<quoted text> true there are basic manners that are easy to pick up on, and it does irritate me when there is obviously no effort to acclimate to new surroundings and environments. However I do not think that nose picking is an issue for me, but digging inside the back of your pants furiously enough to break a sweat does.
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Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#54 Jan 19, 2013
MourningWood wrote:
Well to clear the air I want to side with you, I have had tons more negative interactions with indian people rather than asians. I can speak from security experience (first hint to how you know me) that they present more of a hassle for the exact reasons that you stated. Haggling must be a big part of their culture because I cannot count how many times they have tried to buy me off for special treatment. Also working retail in the past I know exactly what you are talking about with the price negotiations. Often times in those settings the people are so stubborn that they will not leave you alone until they feel they have gotten something for nothing. This is strictly a judgment based only on the people I have encountered personally... not through a third party.
The security work may be the clue I needed, does your name start with D? Your mom's name starts with L?

The something for nothing really hits the nail on the head. When anyone comes into my work and tries to pull that, it bugs the shit out of me. But in all seriousness, I would say 3/5 Indian people ask for specials/discount when I give them a quote, then ask if I can waive part or all of inspection fee, then ask for some tailor-made discount like first time customer, returning customer, they referred a friend, will be back with more business for us, etc when they get the total after the job is done at the price they agreed to. It's like there is a sense of entitlement of not needing to pay for services received. or they think they're being ripped off at every corner.

As for the title of this thread, Asian Invasion-America is a melting pot. It always has been. Heavy immigration from different groups has shifted over the centuries. In the late 1800s-early 1900's, there was heavy immigration from Europe. Now, not so much. But we do have lots from Asia. There will always be some kind of invasion all over america. And I'm fine with that. In fact, I embrace diversity. But I will always push for assimilation into the host culture. And it's better to start with first generation immigrants so by the time they have kids they can ready their kids for American schools. Reason I bring that up is because I knew a girl in middle school. Her parents had come from Iran 15 years before. They had thick accents and were uncomfortable speaking English, in fact they were uncomfortable with everything. This transferred to her. She was miserable at school. And she was made fun of for her odd clothes and not knowing any of the popular music, TV, or movies at that time. But me, my dad made every effort to assimilate starting the day he landed in Boston. Actually, even before he got to the US he familiarized himself with American music. And because of that, I grew up as American as everyone else.

Since: Sep 12

Livermore, CA

#55 Jan 21, 2013
Ssophiiee wrote:
<quoted text>
The security work may be the clue I needed, does your name start with D? Your mom's name starts with L?
The something for nothing really hits the nail on the head. When anyone comes into my work and tries to pull that, it bugs the shit out of me. But in all seriousness, I would say 3/5 Indian people ask for specials/discount when I give them a quote, then ask if I can waive part or all of inspection fee, then ask for some tailor-made discount like first time customer, returning customer, they referred a friend, will be back with more business for us, etc when they get the total after the job is done at the price they agreed to. It's like there is a sense of entitlement of not needing to pay for services received. or they think they're being ripped off at every corner.
As for the title of this thread, Asian Invasion-America is a melting pot. It always has been. Heavy immigration from different groups has shifted over the centuries. In the late 1800s-early 1900's, there was heavy immigration from Europe. Now, not so much. But we do have lots from Asia. There will always be some kind of invasion all over america. And I'm fine with that. In fact, I embrace diversity. But I will always push for assimilation into the host culture. And it's better to start with first generation immigrants so by the time they have kids they can ready their kids for American schools. Reason I bring that up is because I knew a girl in middle school. Her parents had come from Iran 15 years before. They had thick accents and were uncomfortable speaking English, in fact they were uncomfortable with everything. This transferred to her. She was miserable at school. And she was made fun of for her odd clothes and not knowing any of the popular music, TV, or movies at that time. But me, my dad made every effort to assimilate starting the day he landed in Boston. Actually, even before he got to the US he familiarized himself with American music. And because of that, I grew up as American as everyone else.
Yup you got it my name does start with a D and my moms name does start with an L. See this is the type of discussion that should be happening on here.

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#56 Jan 21, 2013
MourningWood wrote:
<quoted text>Yup you got it my name does start with a D and my moms name does start with an L. See this is the type of discussion that should be happening on here.
Hey buddy! I hope you've been well! Your mom too!

Since: Sep 12

Livermore, CA

#57 Jan 21, 2013
Ssophiiee wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey buddy! I hope you've been well! Your mom too!
thanks, we are doing great around here. Hope the same goes for you and your family.

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