LPD will crack down on bicycle-related violations all September

There are 4 comments on the Sep 5, 2010, www.livermorevalleynews.com story titled LPD will crack down on bicycle-related violations all September. In it, www.livermorevalleynews.com reports that:

Livermore police are targeting bicycle safety violations this month. So far this year, there's been 11 accidents involving bicyclists and motor vehicles in Livermore, and according to the Livermore Police Department, the majority of those accidents were the bicyclist's fault.

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MommaSays

Tracy, CA

#21 Mar 15, 2013
Anon wrote:
It's about time! The worst by far are these hard core cyclists who think the traffic laws don't apply to them. I watch these morons blow 3 and 4 way stop signs all the time. Too dumb to live, if you ask me.
They also ride two or more abreast instead of following the law and staying in the bike lane or on the shoulder. People, please don't move out of the lane for them anymore, either. It isn't safe. You're endangering motorists - in the future maybe get up to the center line but don't cross it just because these mental midgets are on the right. Give em a close shave and maybe they will get a clue.
Yeah, give 'em a close shave. The bicycle swerves at the last moment to avoid something in their path that an uncaring motorists has thrown from their car and you run the cyclist over. Now, there's blood on the road and on your hands. Enjoy the rest of your life, hopefully behind bars, thinking about what it feels like to take the life of someone's father, brother, mother, sister. All because you thought it was important to teach a "lesson" to someone that you determined in the matter of a few seconds was "too dumb to live". Yeah, we need more people like you on the planet. Do us all a favor and drive yourself off a cliff.
Great Scott

Tracy, CA

#22 Mar 15, 2013
Anon wrote:
You're confused Jim, the CVC indeed does state that a bicyclist must ride as close to the right hand edge as practical. That means riding two abreast is explicitly prohibited because if you doing that, then you are not riding as close to the edge as you could. You're intentionally NOT complying with the law.
21202.(a) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at that time shall ride as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except under any of the following situations:
(1) When overtaking and passing another bicycle or vehicle proceeding in the same direction.
(2) When preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.
(3) When reasonably necessary to avoid conditions (including, but not limited to, fixed or moving objects, vehicles, bicycles, pedestrians, animals, surface hazards, or substandard width lanes) that make it unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge, subject to the provisions of Section 21656. For purposes of this section, a “substandard width lane” is a lane that is too narrow for a bicycle and a vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane.
(4) When approaching a place where a right turn is authorized.
(b) Any person operating a bicycle upon a roadway of a highway, which highway carries traffic in one direction only and has two or more marked traffic lanes, may ride as near the left-hand curb or edge of that roadway as practicable.
What Anon can't see in his own reference is that the code, as further described here:

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures/fast_fac...

says that a bicycle should ride to the middle of the lane in certain circumstances to prevent a motorist from making an unsafe pass. I'm sure if Anon was on his way to a hot wing eating contest and came across a cyclist following this part of the law, he would lose it. Yelling, honking, and acting the fool. Just calm yourself down, take a breath, and don't be a d$ck.

Since: Oct 10

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#23 Mar 18, 2013
Great Scott wrote:
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What Anon can't see in his own reference is that the code, as further described here:
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures/fast_fac...
says that a bicycle should ride to the middle of the lane in certain circumstances to prevent a motorist from making an unsafe pass. I'm sure if Anon was on his way to a hot wing eating contest and came across a cyclist following this part of the law, he would lose it. Yelling, honking, and acting the fool. Just calm yourself down, take a breath, and don't be a d$ck.
Those are not the exceptional circumstances to which I was referring. I am referring to cyclists who flagrantly operate their vehicle in violation of the prescribed behavior per the Vehicle Code, which contains in it the exceptions to the mandate to right as close to the right as practicable (or within the bike lane where one exists). And by the way, you are citing a document produced by the DMV. That is not the Vehicle Code. It is simply an advisory.

BTW, this advisory is bad advice anyway. There is nothing in the Vehicle Code that allows bicyclists to assume control of the lane simply to "prevent motorists from making an unsafe pass". The Vehicle Code does not refer to any unsafe passing by a motorist at all. The DMV just made that up, and its a factual misrepresentation of what is actually contained in the code itself, which merely says one exception to the mandate to ride to the right is :

"(3) When reasonably necessary to avoid conditions (including, but
not limited to, fixed or moving objects, vehicles, bicycles,
pedestrians, animals, surface hazards, or substandard width lanes)
that make it unsafe to continue along the right-hand curb or edge,
subject to the provisions of Section 21656. For purposes of this
section, a "substandard width lane" is a lane that is too narrow for
a bicycle and a vehicle to travel safely side by side within the
lane."

In other words, where those conditions exist that make it unsafe for a bicycle and a regular vehicle to travel in the same lane, that the bicyclist may take the lane. It is not in order to prevent the motorist from doing any specific thing. It is merely a decision by the bicyclist to use the regular traffic lane as permitted under the exemption. Where a bicycle lane exists, the bicyclist must ride in that lane at all times, unless one of those exemptions arises. Wanting to ride two abreast to chat with your buddy, is not one of them.
MourningWood

Richmond, CA

#24 Mar 28, 2013
Um hold on... last time I checked,home invasions/burglaries and auto thefts were on the rise. Get the hell out of our pockets and into our streets. Bicyclists are some of the most annoying people out there. I agree but this is rediculous for how many officers we have on shift at any given time.

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