What Does Downtown Livermore Need?

What Does Downtown Livermore Need?

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BigDrEaMS

San Jose, CA

#1 Feb 21, 2013
What would get you to downtown Livermore? I am trying to get a feel for what investors need to be recruited. I would love to hear your ideas. What do you think downtown Livermore needs? Personally, I would like to see a shoe store, and a really good healthy sandwich shop like Ike's in Danville and San Fran. What do you think? Please post and let me know!!

Since: Sep 12

Hayward, CA

#2 Feb 21, 2013
BigDrEaMS wrote:
What would get you to downtown Livermore? I am trying to get a feel for what investors need to be recruited. I would love to hear your ideas. What do you think downtown Livermore needs? Personally, I would like to see a shoe store, and a really good healthy sandwich shop like Ike's in Danville and San Fran. What do you think? Please post and let me know!!
honestly there are problems that need to be adressed before any new businesses come in. Right off the top of my head? The drug and alcohol fueled homeless and street kids that hang out in front of yin yin. These people get away with almost anything right on first street. I would like to see legal action taken on them before I even think about new business ideas.
BigDrEaMS

San Jose, CA

#3 Feb 23, 2013
MourningWood wrote:
<quoted text> honestly there are problems that need to be adressed before any new businesses come in. Right off the top of my head? The drug and alcohol fueled homeless and street kids that hang out in front of yin yin. These people get away with almost anything right on first street. I would like to see legal action taken on them before I even think about new business ideas.
Hi MourningWood, thank you for your response. I do not know about the problem with homeless and street kids. when are they their, and what do they do? I would like to see. Is this the restaurant across from Alehouse?

Since: Sep 12

Livermore, CA

#4 Feb 23, 2013
Yes yin yin is directly across from Panama Red Coffee Co. The kids come and go throughout the day, however they are always located at the benches in front of yin yin (usually a group of 7 or more) along side the homeless who buy booze for them. These kids are constantly doing drugs in the open, getting into fights, drinking and throwing up on the sidewalks, stealing from downtown businesses, and creating a huge problem for anyone that is downtown. Police are called regularly but there is rarely any action taken.

Since: Sep 12

Livermore, CA

#5 Feb 23, 2013
keep in mind these kids are still in high school so them getting wasted with adults is what makes this even more disturbing.
Matt

San Francisco, CA

#6 Feb 23, 2013
How about a good steakhouse.

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#7 Feb 23, 2013
BigDrEaMS wrote:
What would get you to downtown Livermore? I am trying to get a feel for what investors need to be recruited. I would love to hear your ideas. What do you think downtown Livermore needs? Personally, I would like to see a shoe store, and a really good healthy sandwich shop like Ike's in Danville and San Fran. What do you think? Please post and let me know!!
Are you even from Livermore or familiar with the downtown? You don't even know where the Yin Yin is. And you don't know about the kids and homeless who have been hanging out on the benches there for at least five years. I've been going downtown on a regular basis for six years and have seen these kids start out as naive 14-year-olds and are now full blown 20-year-old criminals.

The bench outside Yin Yin, and the homeless in general may turn investors away.

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#8 Feb 23, 2013
BigDrEaMS wrote:
<quoted text>Hi MourningWood, thank you for your response. I do not know about the problem with homeless and street kids. when are they their, and what do they do? I would like to see. Is this the restaurant across from Alehouse?
But if you would like to see this in action..go any time before noon and you'll see the homeless congregation. Around 2pm the kids start trickling in. Anytime after 5 there will be 7+ kids. But after 8pm is when the kids are most rowdy-drinking, yelling (at each other and passerby's), fighting, climbing on the trees and street posts, and occasionally throwing up.
Tom Pappas

Soda Springs, ID

#9 Feb 23, 2013
Ssophiiee wrote:
<quoted text>
But if you would like to see this in action..go any time before noon and you'll see the homeless congregation. Around 2pm the kids start trickling in. Anytime after 5 there will be 7+ kids. But after 8pm is when the kids are most rowdy-drinking, yelling (at each other and passerby's), fighting, climbing on the trees and street posts, and occasionally throwing up.
if these kids were made to work instead of getting public assistance and food stamps they would not be able to sleep until noon, hit the streets at 2 pm and party all night.

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#10 Feb 23, 2013
Tom Pappas wrote:
<quoted text>if these kids were made to work instead of getting public assistance and food stamps they would not be able to sleep until noon, hit the streets at 2 pm and party all night.
Who said anything about public assistance? Most of them live with their parents. They are in high school, whether they go half the time is questionable. The few that I've talked to say they spend their time downtown to escape broken homes-an alcoholic mom/dad, an abusive step dad, etc.

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#11 Feb 23, 2013
Tom Pappas wrote:
<quoted text>if these kids were made to work instead of getting public assistance and food stamps they would not be able to sleep until noon, hit the streets at 2 pm and party all night.
While this is a social issue, it's not the one you're trying to make it out to be.
Tom Pappas

Soda Springs, ID

#12 Feb 23, 2013
Ssophiiee wrote:
<quoted text>
Who said anything about public assistance? Most of them live with their parents. They are in high school, whether they go half the time is questionable. The few that I've talked to say they spend their time downtown to escape broken homes-an alcoholic mom/dad, an abusive step dad, etc.
TOM PAPPAS said something about public assistance, not your wildassed guess about broken homes and abuse.
this is a public forum, sister and you are way off base and confrontational.
and ya are DEAD WRONG.
Tom Pappas

Soda Springs, ID

#13 Feb 23, 2013
Ssophiiee wrote:
<quoted text>
While this is a social issue, it's not the one you're trying to make it out to be.
and ya think ya are a mind reader, too?
grow the F up.
it is easy to see that ya have never been in a public debate! ya'd be disqualified.

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#14 Feb 23, 2013
Tom Pappas wrote:
<quoted text>TOM PAPPAS said something about public assistance, not your wildassed guess about broken homes and abuse.
this is a public forum, sister and you are way off base and confrontational.
and ya are DEAD WRONG.
My statement about broken homes wasn't a guess. I've seen these kids everyday. And I've talked to quite a few of them when they come up to me to bum a cigarette. They've told me about their homes because I ask them why they're never home.
So no, not a guess at all.
Tom Pappas

New York, NY

#15 Feb 23, 2013
Ssophiiee wrote:
<quoted text>
My statement about broken homes wasn't a guess. I've seen these kids everyday. And I've talked to quite a few of them when they come up to me to bum a cigarette. They've told me about their homes because I ask them why they're never home.
So no, not a guess at all.
ah, ha. ya are more naive than i realized. any mental health professional knows teens or drug addicts will tell a person what they want to hear.
ya are one person who has not spoken to all of them. ya are still venturing a GUESS based on ya opinion. it is doubtful ya have any qualified background, because even if dr phil was to go interview a few of those same teens DR PHIL would not make ya statements or validate what ya are posting.
how about if i try to make my point in more simplistic terms for ya. just ya?

the bible says "idle hands are the devil's playground"

these kids should either be doing their home work, or employed. loitering is usually against the law.

if these kids were occupied in worthwhile endeavors, they would not have time or be too tired to loiter and loaf

is that a little bit more understandable for ya?

and, sister, if ya tell me ya an atheist --- picture TOM PAPPAS throwing his hands up in the air and giving up on ya, k?

Since: Sep 12

Livermore, CA

#16 Feb 23, 2013
Tom Pappas wrote:
<quoted text>ah, ha. ya are more naive than i realized. any mental health professional knows teens or drug addicts will tell a person what they want to hear.
ya are one person who has not spoken to all of them. ya are still venturing a GUESS based on ya opinion. it is doubtful ya have any qualified background, because even if dr phil was to go interview a few of those same teens DR PHIL would not make ya statements or validate what ya are posting.
how about if i try to make my point in more simplistic terms for ya. just ya?
the bible says "idle hands are the devil's playground"
these kids should either be doing their home work, or employed. loitering is usually against the law.
if these kids were occupied in worthwhile endeavors, they would not have time or be too tired to loiter and loaf
is that a little bit more understandable for ya?
and, sister, if ya tell me ya an atheist --- picture TOM PAPPAS throwing his hands up in the air and giving up on ya, k?
Judge not, lest ye be judged my friend.

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#17 Feb 23, 2013
Tom Pappas wrote:
<quoted text>ah, ha. ya are more naive than i realized. any mental health professional knows teens or drug addicts will tell a person what they want to hear.
ya are one person who has not spoken to all of them. ya are still venturing a GUESS based on ya opinion. it is doubtful ya have any qualified background, because even if dr phil was to go interview a few of those same teens DR PHIL would not make ya statements or validate what ya are posting.
how about if i try to make my point in more simplistic terms for ya. just ya?

the bible says "idle hands are the devil's playground"

these kids should either be doing their home work, or employed. loitering is usually against the law.

if these kids were occupied in worthwhile endeavors, they would not have time or be too tired to loiter and loaf

is that a little bit more understandable for ya?

and, sister, if ya tell me ya an atheist --- picture TOM PAPPAS throwing his hands up in the air and giving up on ya, k?
You've gone so far off topic, I'm not even going to respond to your incoherent rambling posts anymore.
Matt

San Francisco, CA

#18 Feb 23, 2013
Now can we get back on topic? How about a good steakhouse?

Since: Sep 12

San Leandro, CA

#19 Feb 23, 2013
Matt wrote:
Now can we get back on topic? How about a good steakhouse?
we have a great steakhouse called Cattleman's, I would prefer a healthy choice. Everything downtown is a little too greasy for me, and no i'm not a vegan or vegitarian. One of the problems with businesses moving in downtown is the rent, it's sky high.

Some place where portions aren't as big as my torso. I would gladly pay the same amount of money for a well executed meal that is 1/2-3/4 the size of most restaraunts. Yes there are healthy choices downtown bit unless they are coming from lemon grass or sansar they are completely bland. I could go for a kebab place or maybe an etheopian joint.

Since: Mar 11

Livermore 94551

#20 Feb 23, 2013
MourningWood wrote:
<quoted text>we have a great steakhouse called Cattleman's, I would prefer a healthy choice. Everything downtown is a little too greasy for me, and no i'm not a vegan or vegitarian. One of the problems with businesses moving in downtown is the rent, it's sky high.

Some place where portions aren't as big as my torso. I would gladly pay the same amount of money for a well executed meal that is 1/2-3/4 the size of most restaraunts. Yes there are healthy choices downtown bit unless they are coming from lemon grass or sansar they are completely bland. I could go for a kebab place or maybe an etheopian joint.
I think a Middle Eastern/African place would be awesome. We do already have Casbah though. They have kabob. And even though I think they're going for a more Greek feel, their kabob is almost as good as my dad's (100% Persian).

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