Fairfield County judge announces earl...

Fairfield County judge announces early retirement | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 22 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Mar 2, 2011, titled Fairfield County judge announces early retirement | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Fairfield County Domestic Relations Judge Kathy Mowry said today that she will step down from the bench early by retiring, effective June 30.

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Dick

Columbus, OH

#1 Mar 2, 2011
Not to mention the retire salary she and all judges get is 100% So she gets
121, 350 per yr in retire pay and 100 % in health insurance and other benifits.
Talk about highway robbery. Cut the judges pay and benifits, and make them pay into their retirement. But, they won't cause they are just as crooked as other politicans.
Linda

Galloway, OH

#2 Mar 2, 2011
Dear Dispatch

Please tell us how much taxpayer pension with benefits she is walking away with.

Thank you
Linda
boycott

Columbus, OH

#3 Mar 2, 2011
everybody that supported senate bill 5 tell us where you work so we can boycott it
hammer

Bowling Green, OH

#4 Mar 2, 2011
she must be tired of her own party bull shit//////////////
Will Burns

United States

#5 Mar 2, 2011
Damn what is with elected officals especialy in Columbus and Fairfield county. Can't they read a calander ?

I am for any official retiring unless on their deathbed in mid term should forfeit all retirement benefits.

As a lifelong Republican I am sick of office holders leaving mid term to retire, and I am sure there has to be democrats that feel the same way about Columbus City Council and Democrat areas around the state.
Steady Eddie

San Antonio, TX

#6 Mar 2, 2011
Maybe it is time that you realize that NEITHER party represents your interests and start voting for the person instead of the party.

I won't be a life long member of ANY organization because organizations change with their leadership. Once radicals take over the leadership they probably no longer represent my interests.

Vote for the person, not the party line.
Will Burns wrote:
Damn what is with elected officals especialy in Columbus and Fairfield county. Can't they read a calander ?
I am for any official retiring unless on their deathbed in mid term should forfeit all retirement benefits.
As a lifelong Republican I am sick of office holders leaving mid term to retire, and I am sure there has to be democrats that feel the same way about Columbus City Council and Democrat areas around the state.
Will Burns

United States

#7 Mar 2, 2011
Steady Eddie wrote:
Maybe it is time that you realize that NEITHER party represents your interests and start voting for the person instead of the party.
I won't be a life long member of ANY organization because organizations change with their leadership. Once radicals take over the leadership they probably no longer represent my interests.
Vote for the person, not the party line.
<quoted text>
In Fairfield county you only get to do that on rare ocasions in the primary. Most postions never have a democrat running or if they do the democrat is so nuts they make Kusinich seem normal.
Robert

Columbus, OH

#8 Mar 2, 2011
Dick wrote:
Not to mention the retire salary she and all judges get is 100% So she gets
121, 350 per yr in retire pay and 100 % in health insurance and other benifits.
Talk about highway robbery. Cut the judges pay and benifits, and make them pay into their retirement. But, they won't cause they are just as crooked as other politicans.
If this is correct information, this needs to be corrected NOW and the politicians should be ashamed for ever allowing this type of retirement system to be put into place. Nothing in the private sectors looks like this and tax payers will not stand for this type abuse of financial trust. Federal, state and local governments should have been required to recognize post retirement benefits (FAS-160) just as all public companies had to do and this type mess would have been avoided. This shows how incompetent the folks we elect to office are and this needs to stop. Individuals should be tested in order to determine how they would perform befor allowing them to run for office.
Big Gay Will Burns Sr

New Albany, OH

#9 Mar 2, 2011
What do you think she is going to wear to her retirement party?
Just plain wrong

Delaware, OH

#11 Mar 2, 2011
Dick wrote:
Not to mention the retire salary she and all judges get is 100% So she gets
121, 350 per yr in retire pay and 100 % in health insurance and other benifits.
Talk about highway robbery. Cut the judges pay and benifits, and make them pay into their retirement. But, they won't cause they are just as crooked as other politicans.
No, that's not correct. Judges are members of the Public Employees Retirement System (PERS) and earn retirement benefits just as others do. If, as noted in the story, she was a public employee and paying into PERS for only 4 or 5 years, her retirement will actually be quite minuscule. That's because PERS retirement is based on the number of years you have in the system and an average of the highest three (soon to be five) years of salary. If she has 5 years, I believe she'll only get about 10% of her salary in retirement. You have to have 30-35 years (I'm afraid I don't recall the exact number) in the system to max out your retirement and even then it's only around 80% of your salary.
Topper

Columbus, OH

#12 Mar 2, 2011
We don't elect judges for life....We just pay them that way
Response to Steady Eddie

Columbus, OH

#13 Mar 2, 2011
Steady, that post is the best post I have read in awhile (and I have read way too many in the past two weeks). Unless there is a true third party in this country NEITHER party represents the true common man in the middle. How about the "Common Sense Party"?
Robert

Columbus, OH

#14 Mar 2, 2011
Just plain wrong wrote:
<quoted text>
No, that's not correct. Judges are members of the Public Employees Retirement System (PERS) and earn retirement benefits just as others do. If, as noted in the story, she was a public employee and paying into PERS for only 4 or 5 years, her retirement will actually be quite minuscule. That's because PERS retirement is based on the number of years you have in the system and an average of the highest three (soon to be five) years of salary. If she has 5 years, I believe she'll only get about 10% of her salary in retirement. You have to have 30-35 years (I'm afraid I don't recall the exact number) in the system to max out your retirement and even then it's only around 80% of your salary.
Receiving 10% after 5 years is significantly out of line versus the private sector and 80% after 30-35 years is also out of line. First, in the private sector, defined benefits plans are a thing of the past. A very high percentage of companies have converted to defined contribution plans. Secondly, it takes 10 years of employment in order to be vested in many of the plans so after 5 years, you get nothing and after 30-35 years, the payment would likely be about 40% of the highest 5 years of compensation. Essentially, these folks are receiving nearly double what folks in the private sector would receive in post retirement benefits. Sick and the taxpayers will not stand for it.
BillS

Columbus, OH

#15 Mar 2, 2011
@just plain wrong- you are exactly correct. And right now it is 30 years in PERS, but is being raised to 32 I think. All judges salaries in Ohio are set by the general assembly, and they are all the same. You also have to be an attorney, which means lots of student loan debt. And health insurance is not paid for once you retire.
Wow

Cambridge, OH

#16 Mar 2, 2011
You all don't realize that most incumbents will retire before their term is up so the reigning party will be able to appoint who they want so that new judge is in place for the next election. Take a look at county auditors and you will see.
herman

Fostoria, OH

#17 Mar 2, 2011
Will Burns wrote:
Damn what is with elected officals especialy in Columbus and Fairfield county. Can't they read a calander ?
I am for any official retiring unless on their deathbed in mid term should forfeit all retirement benefits.
As a lifelong Republican I am sick of office holders leaving mid term to retire, and I am sure there has to be democrats that feel the same way about Columbus City Council and Democrat areas around the state.
d a m n straight !! You tell it like it is !! If you run for elected office - you should serve the full term. Like George Voinovich - give plenty of notice, fulfill your term, then retire.

If she retires at full pay with a boatload of bennies, look at the addtional cost to Fairfield County - now the country has to provide the same package to a new judge.

Since: Jul 10

Columbus, OH

#18 Mar 2, 2011
Big Gay Will Burns Sr wrote:
What do you think she is going to wear to her retirement party?
Something sexy.
duh huh

Delaware, OH

#19 Mar 2, 2011
Just to set the record straight- employees covered under PERS receive 66% of their FAS at 30 years and receive 2.5% for each additional year past thirty. 35 years service equals 78.5%.
From the sound of it,Fairfield County must be much like Delaware County where you aren't elected but are selected.
Student

Dublin, OH

#20 Mar 2, 2011
What will her benefits be after retiring?
Steady Eddie

San Antonio, TX

#21 Mar 2, 2011
Thank you for your kind words.

The Common Sense party sounds like a good idea. Even if it appears I will continue to vote for the person that I think is most suitable for the position, regardless of party affiliation.

As of late, the "third parties" that have appeared seem to be fringe groups with radical agendas. Radical agendas, either far left, far right or even far looney do not appeal to me.

For some strange reason, we as a society are letting ourselves be led to slaughter by sound bites, staged events and words of no substance. We do hold the key to liberty - it is an INFORMED and EDUCATED electorate.
Response to Steady Eddie wrote:
Steady, that post is the best post I have read in awhile (and I have read way too many in the past two weeks). Unless there is a true third party in this country NEITHER party represents the true common man in the middle. How about the "Common Sense Party"?

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