“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#2 Jul 18, 2012
No, SCOTUS used the "it's a tax" to uphold it. Just because you call it a tax doesn't make it one.

If you called a banana an apple so your kid will eat it, it's still a banana.
Seriously?

Douglasville, GA

#4 Jul 22, 2012
If the Supreme Court calls it a tax I'm pretty sure that makes it one.

Does it not bother you that your government blatantly lied to you?

“Is Topix really like this????”

Since: Jan 11

Bremen Georgia

#5 Jul 22, 2012
I personally like the fact that everyone will be required to have health insurance now. Now more using emergency facilities as a "sick call" by anyone.
My husband offers health insurance to all his employees (he's a contractor) yet 90% refuse this responsibility for themselves and their families because it takes money out of their check. Now the money will be removed whether they like it or not and they will be insured.
I do not like the fact that many groups, such as big unions, are exempt from this policy. The whole purpose of this legislation was to make health care available and equal for everyone yet the democrats gave in to the big unions and will allow them to have better health care than the average American.
Health needed and STILL needs to be reformed and what President Obama gave us is not that, unfortunately, it may be impossible to get the genie back into the bottle to reform anything now.
Seriously?

United States

#6 Jul 22, 2012
Minnow_Paws wrote:
I personally like the fact that everyone will be required to have health insurance now. Now more using emergency facilities as a "sick call" by anyone.
My husband offers health insurance to all his employees (he's a contractor) yet 90% refuse this responsibility for themselves and their families because it takes money out of their check. Now the money will be removed whether they like it or not and they will be insured.
I do not like the fact that many groups, such as big unions, are exempt from this policy. The whole purpose of this legislation was to make health care available and equal for everyone yet the democrats gave in to the big unions and will allow them to have better health care than the average American.
Health needed and STILL needs to be reformed and what President Obama gave us is not that, unfortunately, it may be impossible to get the genie back into the bottle to reform anything now.
Of course big unions are exempt. The democrats have to protect their pocket lining rich buddies. Funny how the democrats like to say the republicans protect the corrupt, rich big business types. These union officials are just as rich and infinitely more corrupt.

And your logic is flawed. The people you talk about will surely fall into the category of people who cannot be taxed because they pay no taxes anyway and will continue to abuse the system. This won't slow them down one bit

“Is Topix really like this????”

Since: Jan 11

Bremen Georgia

#7 Jul 22, 2012
[QUOTE who="Seriously?"] <quoted text>

And your logic is flawed. The people you talk about will surely fall into the category of people who cannot be taxed because they pay no taxes anyway and will continue to abuse the system. This won't slow them down one bit[/QUOTE]

Everyone(few exceptions) has FICA deducted from their paycheck no matter the income level, this tax will be just like that.
Seriously?

United States

#8 Jul 22, 2012
Minnow_Paws wrote:
[QUOTE who="Seriously?"] <quoted text>

And your logic is flawed. The people you talk about will surely fall into the category of people who cannot be taxed because they pay no taxes anyway and will continue to abuse the system. This won't slow them down one bit"

Everyone(few exceptions) has FICA deducted from their paycheck no matter the income level, this tax will be just like that.
Yeah but they get it right back with their refunds. This tax will NOT be like that because people who fall under a certain income range do not have to pay a penalty at all.

“Is Topix really like this????”

Since: Jan 11

Bremen Georgia

#9 Jul 23, 2012
[QUOTE who="Seriously?"] <quoted text>
Yeah but they get it right back with their refunds. This tax will NOT be like that because people who fall under a certain income range do not have to pay a penalty at all.[/QUOTE]

Technically its "earned income credit" and not FICA but I do see where you are going with it.
Any genuine austerity measures by the government should include doing away with earned income credit, not only for the monetary savings but to help reverse the entitlement way of thinking that has engulfed this nation.

“Home In Georgia Now”

Since: Jul 07

The "City of Gold" in Georgia

#10 Jul 24, 2012
Remember when The Chicago Thug aka The Teleprompter Kid made the statement "If you like your current insurance, you can keep it" when the Democrats were cramming this Obama Care crap down our throats. Well guess what. Like many folks warned that it was a lie it appears that is fact. Right now 10% of employers surveyed in this study plan to drop offering health care coverage. So those folks will not get to keep their coverage that they may have been happy with. Just another lie by the Democrats to get the vote of those who want government to take care of them from the cradle to the grave. Our only hope is a complete repeal of this POS law or not funding it. Want to cut medical costs stop treating ILLEGAL ALIENS who drop their ANCHOR BABIES daily who in turn qualify for all benefits of a citizen due to the improper application of section 1 of the 14th amendment.

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“Home In Georgia Now”

Since: Jul 07

The "City of Gold" in Georgia

#11 Jul 24, 2012

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#12 Jul 24, 2012
John, that's not Obama's fault -- it's the fault of the employers who would rather pay the penalty than make sure all their employees are covered. I guess it's cheaper in the long run.
justme

Carrollton, GA

#13 Jul 24, 2012
I have a hard time believing big companies are going to drop insurance coverage for their employees. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong when it happens, but that would create havoc.

“Home In Georgia Now”

Since: Jul 07

The "City of Gold" in Georgia

#14 Jul 25, 2012
wobbler1957 wrote:
John, that's not Obama's fault -- it's the fault of the employers who would rather pay the penalty than make sure all their employees are covered. I guess it's cheaper in the long run.
And that opportunity for the employers is available because?? OBAMACARE!!

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#15 Jul 25, 2012
Nope. Employers have always gone for the cheapest answer. If it's too expensive (read: cuts too far into their profits/bonuses) they'll cut coverage, change coverage, or drop it altogether.

The only difference now is that they'll have to pay a penalty for doing so. Of course, they'll blame Obamacare. But they'd do it anyway, if they felt like it, penalty or no.

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