What is wrong with our law enforcement?
amazing grace

Breckenridge, TX

#695 Dec 5, 2008
rest in peice mike

Breckenridge, TX

#696 Dec 5, 2008
your welcome, i posted that song and one other on page 32, im glad i could help
YeahRight

Fort Worth, TX

#697 Dec 5, 2008
Does anyone who has contacted media leave return contact information? I mean how are they going to know where to start?
Stephanie Moreno Perales

Pratt, KS

#698 Dec 5, 2008
FED UP IN ODESSA wrote:
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no, i dont remember michael martinez, name sounds familiar though, and how could i ever forget joe ledbetter? I am the one who brought him up somewhere around comment #66. And jamie whitt, i remember from back in the day when he lived in albany but dont know what happened to him. And as for Jason Williams, I had know all my life, grew up a few houses down, well when he wasn't in a boys home, but that wasn't cop related, it was , well that whole story is very complex, and only a very small people know the real truth to that one. I will take you all back further than that-- REMEMBER RYAN BURTON? AND JUDY BLUE?? The list I know of unsolved murders in breckenridge goes on forever. I doubt most of you people that have quotes paul harvey never even really heard him say it. he never said breckenridge, texas. he said go to stephens county in texas. And it was aired on his radio news program shortly after william rodgers killed his wife macey out on the high road now closed off going to lake hubbard. Please do not take offense but I am one of the few that actually heard that paul hearvey broadcast. And does anybody actually believe that jakabo's wife really committed suicide? I believe jason grey did however. And what about that girl from the ft. worth area they found overdosed and drowned in hubbard lake that it was speculated Pat Sanders had something to do with? I am telling you people the list goes on and on and on.... BRECKENRIGE NEEDS BETTER.... hell I dont even know what it needs. cold case files could make a couple months worth of shows on breckenridge alone and all it's unsolved murders. Carl Lynch as well, I believe I was told something fishy went down there too. And Jodi Hash, was justice ever brought to her from being locked in a trailer from the outside to burn to death with no chance of survival, now SHE WAS A TRUE HERO AS WELL!! I gotta get off for now, I am remembering to many sad horrible memories. I TRULY HOPE JUSTICE FOR MIKE IS SERVED AND SOON! And how Charlie Height got away with murder when he killed Albert Moreno's first wife, i believe her name was Tammy. The more I think, the more people I remember.
Yes I remember the death of Albert Moreno's wife Kelly!! She was my aunt! Michael Martinez was a friend and they say suicide but all his friends and family know that is false as well! I am orginally from Breckenridge and have moved with my husbands job, but I will tell you this, Breckenridge will never be the same! The police have always been crooked for as long as I can remember and I am 26! All I hope for is Justice for Mike! These police officers non in particular have got to be stopped! I don't even know if I could ever go back to live there! The things that go on in that town are crazy! RIP Mike and know that Brian and I will never ever forget you!!!
YeahRight

Fort Worth, TX

#699 Dec 5, 2008
Do yall ever read the breckenridge american online that comes out the night before? It has another story on 'the investigation'.
Shai- you know me

Plano, TX

#700 Dec 5, 2008
YeahRight wrote:
Does anyone who has contacted media leave return contact information? I mean how are they going to know where to start?
I'm supposed to be in bed,lol. Yes, I have been giving them contact info and so has kristin.
The www.americaiswatching site is great. Have you checked it out?
YeahRight

Fort Worth, TX

#701 Dec 5, 2008
FED UP IN ODESSA wrote:
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no, i dont remember michael martinez, name sounds familiar though, and how could i ever forget joe ledbetter? I am the one who brought him up somewhere around comment #66. And jamie whitt, i remember from back in the day when he lived in albany but dont know what happened to him. And as for Jason Williams, I had know all my life, grew up a few houses down, well when he wasn't in a boys home, but that wasn't cop related, it was , well that whole story is very complex, and only a very small people know the real truth to that one. I will take you all back further than that-- REMEMBER RYAN BURTON? AND JUDY BLUE?? The list I know of unsolved murders in breckenridge goes on forever. I doubt most of you people that have quotes paul harvey never even really heard him say it. he never said breckenridge, texas. he said go to stephens county in texas. And it was aired on his radio news program shortly after william rodgers killed his wife macey out on the high road now closed off going to lake hubbard. Please do not take offense but I am one of the few that actually heard that paul hearvey broadcast. And does anybody actually believe that jakabo's wife really committed suicide? I believe jason grey did however. And what about that girl from the ft. worth area they found overdosed and drowned in hubbard lake that it was speculated Pat Sanders had something to do with? I am telling you people the list goes on and on and on.... BRECKENRIGE NEEDS BETTER.... hell I dont even know what it needs. cold case files could make a couple months worth of shows on breckenridge alone and all it's unsolved murders. Carl Lynch as well, I believe I was told something fishy went down there too. And Jodi Hash, was justice ever brought to her from being locked in a trailer from the outside to burn to death with no chance of survival, now SHE WAS A TRUE HERO AS WELL!! I gotta get off for now, I am remembering to many sad horrible memories. I TRULY HOPE JUSTICE FOR MIKE IS SERVED AND SOON! And how Charlie Height got away with murder when he killed Albert Moreno's first wife, i believe her name was Tammy. The more I think, the more people I remember.
Well you're somewhat right. You meantion some of the unsolved and covered up murders, but one thing I think you have wrong is the 'suicides' in jail. There have been more then just Jason, and I dont think ANY of those men would have actually wanted to die. They are cover ups too. Why dont we all think and come up with all the names of all the possible cover ups.
Shai- you know me

Plano, TX

#702 Dec 5, 2008
YeahRight wrote:
Do yall ever read the breckenridge american online that comes out the night before? It has another story on 'the investigation'.
Eye opening story, isn't it?

“Where are all the sane people?”

Since: Nov 08

Breckenridge,Texas

#703 Dec 5, 2008
tjp1018 wrote:
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No I don't know who you are dumb as but her name was not Tammy. Tammy was his cousin that was killed by Mr.Mazel and she was my sister. He did not kill Kelly. So get your facts straight.
FIRST OFF YOU DONT NEED TO BE CALLING ME A DUMBASS! It's been alot of years and sorry I didnt remember kelly's name right. And I guess Albert has the story all wrong and dont remember what happened? is that what you are telling me? I know damn well who Tammy was too. I am sorry if you got your undies in a wad, and i am not trying to piss people off here. But the story I got was that it was charlie and some other guy, my mom didnt remember his name. they were out around frankel city looking for some deer to shoot and hit a bump or something she was accidentally shot with some kinda rifle. I just called my mom and she confirmed it and told me charlie was actually in jail for awhile until his jury trial where he was aquitted and it was charged as an accident. I will be the first to admit that my memory isnt all here at time, probally part to do with who my parents are, and if those facts are wrong I am sorry, it's just what I was told years ago by my parents and of course Albert has a much more one sided story than that, but I really believe my facts to be true. By the way if you are a height I am pretty much positive you know me! Up until 7 years ago, i lived in breckenridge ALL my life and knew every height and hight there was, the good ones like Tammy and Billy Dean (in fact iv'e never seen my dad so upset as he was the day they put billy dean in the ground), and the bad ones, I know you all!
In fact if you were Tammy sister that would have made Billy Dean your dad, who was my dad's best friend. And I may not spell it right, but that would make you tamena or billie gale? right? I dont know Billie gale but I do know tamena, our parents used to have fish frys out at your dad's place in necessity where his house was right on the curve of the road? Do you remember that?

“Where are all the sane people?”

Since: Nov 08

Breckenridge,Texas

#704 Dec 5, 2008
Stephanie Moreno Perales wrote:
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Yes I remember the death of Albert Moreno's wife Kelly!! She was my aunt! Michael Martinez was a friend and they say suicide but all his friends and family know that is false as well! I am orginally from Breckenridge and have moved with my husbands job, but I will tell you this, Breckenridge will never be the same! The police have always been crooked for as long as I can remember and I am 26! All I hope for is Justice for Mike! These police officers non in particular have got to be stopped! I don't even know if I could ever go back to live there! The things that go on in that town are crazy! RIP Mike and know that Brian and I will never ever forget you!!!
sorry about getting kelly's name wrong, Albert would say" why i aughta slap you" (haha) but anyway, glad to hear you got the hell out of there. I know I am much better off, but I do miss my family and go back periodically. I bet Janna really misses you!
Aunt Donna

Breckenridge, TX

#705 Dec 5, 2008
To all who know , I am Mike's Aunt Donna, thank for all your prayers and help. Keep praying for Mikes precious boys. They will need all our love and support. Let us all keep up the good fight. God Bless you all! dj
loo

Breckenridge, TX

#706 Dec 5, 2008
FED UP IN ODESSA wrote:
<quoted text> FIRST OFF YOU DONT NEED TO BE CALLING ME A DUMBASS! It's been alot of years and sorry I didnt remember kelly's name right. And I guess Albert has the story all wrong and dont remember what happened? is that what you are telling me? I know damn well who Tammy was too. I am sorry if you got your undies in a wad, and i am not trying to piss people off here. But the story I got was that it was charlie and some other guy, my mom didnt remember his name. they were out around frankel city looking for some deer to shoot and hit a bump or something she was accidentally shot with some kinda rifle. I just called my mom and she confirmed it and told me charlie was actually in jail for awhile until his jury trial where he was aquitted and it was charged as an accident. I will be the first to admit that my memory isnt all here at time, probally part to do with who my parents are, and if those facts are wrong I am sorry, it's just what I was told years ago by my parents and of course Albert has a much more one sided story than that, but I really believe my facts to be true. By the way if you are a height I am pretty much positive you know me! Up until 7 years ago, i lived in breckenridge ALL my life and knew every height and hight there was, the good ones like Tammy and Billy Dean (in fact iv'e never seen my dad so upset as he was the day they put billy dean in the ground), and the bad ones, I know you all!
In fact if you were Tammy sister that would have made Billy Dean your dad, who was my dad's best friend. And I may not spell it right, but that would make you tamena or billie gale? right? I dont know Billie gale but I do know tamena, our parents used to have fish frys out at your dad's place in necessity where his house was right on the curve of the road? Do you remember that?
charlie was getting out of back seat with the gun it accidently went off and struck the girl i don't remember her name.it was proved the gun had a hair trigger and it was accidental.as for Tammy height she was killed in a vechile accident.
83andy

Dallas, TX

#707 Dec 5, 2008
I'm pissed! How shitty that no one from the police dept. has tried to contact Connie.

What the hell? Esspecially the night of the incident. That's chicken-shit!

As a child, we HICKS AND REDNECKS, as we have all been referred to on this forum, were taught to always "own-up" to our actions, both good and bad.

The cheif should have atleast tried to make contact with her.

GEEZ! This all how this world is going.

I'm a Christian- sometimes I get aggravated.

I do hope and wait for the return of Our Lord and Savior. This world is getting darker and darker everyday.
Stephanie Moreno Perales

Pratt, KS

#708 Dec 5, 2008
FED UP IN ODESSA wrote:
<quoted text> sorry about getting kelly's name wrong, Albert would say" why i aughta slap you" (haha) but anyway, glad to hear you got the hell out of there. I know I am much better off, but I do miss my family and go back periodically. I bet Janna really misses you!
So if you know my family...then do I know you?
Yes my mom misses me...I MISS HER!! although we do talk on the phone every single day!! but not to say that I don't go back to Breck, because I do! I miss my friends and FAMILY a ton! It just makes me sick to my stomach to know that something so horrible has happened to an awesome awesome man and in a town I once called HOME! I am devastated at the fact that I wont make it back for Mike's services but I know that he would understand and his family has as well! I pray for them everyday and am so Thankful to have known such a "Perfect Man" I think that saying fits him quiet well :) As for my uncle and this is the only time I would claim him...lol that sounds like something he would say! To the Richardson family...just know that God and Mike are with you during all this fight and as someone said in a previous quote God doesn't bring you to it without guiding you through it! He is here and he is going to make sure Justice prevails! Brian and I are sorry that we won't get to make it but know that each and everyone of you are in our thoughts and prayers night and day! God Bless you all!
prayers4u

Breckenridge, TX

#709 Dec 6, 2008
To all the Richardson family and friends my heart goes out to each and every one of you. I also consider myself part of your family i never knew mike but i know if i did i would consider him as a friend.i do reside here in Breckenridge and have for awhile. i dont know what actually happened that horrible night but i pray that the truth comes out and the guilty gets charged if thats the case. i to am a police officer but i dont work here within the City Limits of Breckenridge. But i do feel it neccessary as a professional to say to each of you that my thoughts and prayers are with you. my heart is saddened to think about mike's kids expecially this time of year. i know this that all you fantastic people will be there for those kids. It does my heart good knowing that my Home Town has great people like you in it again may god be with you all. Stay Safe
prayers4u

Breckenridge, TX

#710 Dec 6, 2008
Im sorry i was compelled to let you know that i do have a 16 year old son that comes and visits me on times. that just got his drivers licence But at this point in time im afraid to let him drive our city streets.what happens if he gets stopped will i get a call that he is in jail or will i get a call to come identify his body. I know you all know that im a Police Office not in Stephens County. But i to am concearned about our safety. But remember we still have the Stephens County Sheriffs Office. Untill they show us different. But My fellow people in Stephens County Breckenridge Texas lets see what the Investigation shows. I myself have questions. Me being a Policeman in THAT situation would have done a different thing but i am a different officer. My policy was that always was that no one would ever die on my watch. Depends on the circumstance. You cant be scared of incident. But again I hope you all dont judge police officers because of 1 or 2. I Would never take someone's life unless i absoulty had to. Let me close and tell each of you again i do love each of you and i will have family members wearing MIKES SHIRT. I know at this point in time you all dont like law enforcement at this time so i dont feel comfortable to attend. But my prayers for Mike , Family , and Friends are with you ALL. LOVE YOU GUYS. REST IN PEACE MIKE Wished we could could have met.


“Where are all the sane people?”

Since: Nov 08

Breckenridge,Texas

#711 Dec 6, 2008
Stephanie Moreno Perales wrote:
<quoted text>
So if you know my family...then do I know you?
Yes my mom misses me...I MISS HER!! although we do talk on the phone every single day!! but not to say that I don't go back to Breck, because I do! I miss my friends and FAMILY a ton! It just makes me sick to my stomach to know that something so horrible has happened to an awesome awesome man and in a town I once called HOME! I am devastated at the fact that I wont make it back for Mike's services but I know that he would understand and his family has as well! I pray for them everyday and am so Thankful to have known such a "Perfect Man" I think that saying fits him quiet well :) As for my uncle and this is the only time I would claim him...lol that sounds like something he would say! To the Richardson family...just know that God and Mike are with you during all this fight and as someone said in a previous quote God doesn't bring you to it without guiding you through it! He is here and he is going to make sure Justice prevails! Brian and I are sorry that we won't get to make it but know that each and everyone of you are in our thoughts and prayers night and day! God Bless you all!
yes you know me quiet well. You probally dont like me very much, due to who i was married to back then, but believe me iv'e changed for the better. funny what getting rid of a lowlife piece of crap husband and marrying a real man will do for ya. Iv'e said stuff about baker on here and i'd rather not give up my idenity right now. But I usd to be at Albert and Ginia's house on a daily basis. With a little thought I am sure you can figure it out. by the way is your uncle shahan still a cop?
Peace Above All

Bryan, TX

#712 Dec 6, 2008
I am so very sorry to hear about this awful tragedy and certainly sent my prayers to the families of all involved. I hope the truth is found whatever that is.

What I find most disheartening is that very few comments I am hearing are solutions based at all. If you believe the police are incompitent, then you do know there are several positive things you can do to correct that don't you? Swearing, using very poor English and just allowing yourselves to get madder does not do anything at all except show your anger. Do something about it. Demand to understand the training the police officers receive. What do other officers receive in other communities? How are officers hired?

The tragedy that happened that night was a tragedy plain and simple. Anger is a natural reaction, but what is needed is prayer and solutions.

And threatening these officers and their children which we all know is happening has to stop. What's the purpose in that except to feed anger and hate. When that happens, innocent people are hurt. Our children are being effected by this, and that has to stop.

For anyone wanting to fight for what is right has to think about your actions first. Am I making matters better or worse? When are children are tossed into the mix, things are getting worse!
tjp1018

United States

#713 Dec 6, 2008
FED UP IN ODESSA wrote:
<quoted text> FIRST OFF YOU DONT NEED TO BE CALLING ME A DUMBASS! It's been alot of years and sorry I didnt remember kelly's name right. And I guess Albert has the story all wrong and dont remember what happened? is that what you are telling me? I know damn well who Tammy was too. I am sorry if you got your undies in a wad, and i am not trying to piss people off here. But the story I got was that it was charlie and some other guy, my mom didnt remember his name. they were out around frankel city looking for some deer to shoot and hit a bump or something she was accidentally shot with some kinda rifle. I just called my mom and she confirmed it and told me charlie was actually in jail for awhile until his jury trial where he was aquitted and it was charged as an accident. I will be the first to admit that my memory isnt all here at time, probally part to do with who my parents are, and if those facts are wrong I am sorry, it's just what I was told years ago by my parents and of course Albert has a much more one sided story than that, but I really believe my facts to be true. By the way if you are a height I am pretty much positive you know me! Up until 7 years ago, i lived in breckenridge ALL my life and knew every height and hight there was, the good ones like Tammy and Billy Dean (in fact iv'e never seen my dad so upset as he was the day they put billy dean in the ground), and the bad ones, I know you all!
In fact if you were Tammy sister that would have made Billy Dean your dad, who was my dad's best friend. And I may not spell it right, but that would make you tamena or billie gale? right? I dont know Billie gale but I do know tamena, our parents used to have fish frys out at your dad's place in necessity where his house was right on the curve of the road? Do you remember that?
Yes I am TaMina Hight, Billy Dean's daughter. Lets don't forget what this site is realy for and that is Justice for MIke.
cousin

Stephenville, TX

#714 Dec 6, 2008
I'm not just defending brekenridge pd. but defending the badge. Its been this way forever "the public pissing on the badge" its funny how people set and piss on this situation alone! when evryday cops die trying to do the perfect thing, point being we are all human and with opionions. but let's ponder this ?. when was the last time you were in a life or death situation? where you had to make a split decision and pray it is the perfect thing to do. its like complaining and not voting. if you yourself have never been in the line of life and death "and do it for a job everyday" then shut up! set at your computer where it safe and type away! this is my last message, I HAVE TO GO PROTECT LIVES MAYBE EVEN YOURS OR YOUR LOVED ONES!

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