GOP bill aims to retool immigrant bir...

GOP bill aims to retool immigrant birthright citizenship

There are 152 comments on the Pasadena Star-News story from Feb 15, 2010, titled GOP bill aims to retool immigrant birthright citizenship. In it, Pasadena Star-News reports that:

Republican lawmakers in Congress are sponsoring a bill that seeks to abolish birthright citizenship for children born in the United States to illegal immigrant parents.

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Common Cents

Oviedo, FL

#159 Feb 22, 2010
Shared Sacrifice wrote:
This type of proposal is consistent with many (perhaps most) European countries, not that I look to Europe as the benchmark for the U.S. However, if we continue pursuing European-type social policies and providing European-style entitlements, then we will be forced to limit the pool of eligible recipients.
"This bill is unconstitutional," said Rep. Joe Baca, D-San Bernardino. "It would change one of the most basic principles that our nation was founded on: If you were born in the United States, you're an American." ---The Congressman clearly has his U.S. history mixed up. The 14th Amendment was not part of the FOUNDING documents. The 14th Amendment was very important, though, in providing rights to descendents of slaves.
Back to this current proposal: Americans need to make a choice related to limited resources. Loosely granting citizenship becomes an economic problem. So we need to either reform entitlement eligbility or we need to reform citizenship requirments.
I like what the Rep. from Santa Clarita said: The current rules encourage illegal immigrants to have a child right away. Well, many illegal immigrants are often poor. Having a child is expensive. Starting a family while poor often creates many long-term financial challenges. We really need to reform these laws that encourage this type of decision making.
There are already 37 million LEGAL FOREIGN-BORN people working in our country. We do not need any more construction or factory workers and hotel houskeepers as housing, manufacturing and the tourism industries are doing 50% of the business they did 3 years ago and with unemployment at %20 Americans don't have the money to spend to cause a revival of the economy. The US does not need 20 million new citizens:
http://www.tcunation.com/profiles/blogs/glenn...
barry

Pisgah, AL

#160 Feb 22, 2010
Iibstomper wrote:
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^5
Great post, thanks for your time on the research.
it was a nice try but not true.
Pug

Berwyn, IL

#161 Feb 22, 2010
"...Francisco Flores, 24, was sentenced by United States District Judge David O. Carter in federal court in Santa Ana, California. Flores received a life sentence, plus a consecutive 10-year prison term. There is no parole in the federal prison system..."

Just hardworkers, looking for a better life, doing the jobs Americans wont do.

Pearl Bailey

Montclair, CA

#162 Feb 22, 2010
Manny

Port Hueneme, CA

#163 Aug 5, 2010
Karen in California wrote:
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http://www.census.gov/prod/2002pubs/p23-206.p...
In 2008, 53 percent of all households headed by an immigrant (legal or illegal) with one or more children under age 18 used at least one welfare program, compared to 36 percent for native households with children.
Immigrant use of welfare tends to be much higher than natives for food assistance programs and Medicaid. Use of cash and housing programs tends to be very similar to natives.
Immigrants are eleven percent of our population, with 53% of immigrant households using some form of welfare, the use of welfare by immigrants is disproportionally higher than the native population, at the existing ratio, immigrants (legal and illegal) are using ten times more welfare than native households.
A large share of the welfare used by immigrants is received on behalf of their U.S.-born children. But even households with children comprised entirely of immigrants still have a welfare use rate of 47 percent.
The above figures come from an analysis of the public use file of the March 2009 Current Population Survey collected by the Census Bureau.
The survey asks about use of welfare programs in the calendar year prior to the survey. The eight major welfare programs reported above are;
SSI (Supplemental Security Income for low-income elderly and disabled),
TANF (Temporary Assistance to Needy Families),
WIC (Women Infants and Children food program),
free school lunch,
food stamps (now called Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program),
Medicaid (health insurance for those with low incomes),
public housing, and rent subsidies.
Of the seven largest immigrant-receiving states which account for three-quarters of the nation's foreign-born population (California, New York, Texas, Florida, Illinois, New Jersey, and Arizona), California provides the most extensive benefits in the areas of health, cash assistance, and food subsidies to immigrants (legal and illegal). Whereas the benefits are financed solely through state funds.
Each year, state governments spend an estimated $11 billion to $22 billion to provide welfare to immigrants.
Sounds good, with your broken link! The report you quote is from 2001, and as you say there are legal immigrants in the mix. Which means they are entitled because they're here legally. So your illegal alien argument is just fear mongering!
Manny

Port Hueneme, CA

#164 Aug 5, 2010
Paige Turner wrote:
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You know, you don't have to be a genius to figure this out. Go to google and type in 'california welfare anchor baby'. You'll get all the statistics you can handle from BOTH sides. Get your head out of the sand. They're taking your money as well as mine (unless you're one of the illegal aliens, in which case YOU are taking my money too.)
Because I'm going to take "Mexican Occupation's" word for it. As far as taking my money, even if they got rid of all the illegals the Gov't would still be taxing the sh1t out of me. Oh and paige turner...How to I know you're not taking my money? You're probably and old diseased fu*k, on state disability, social security and medicare/medical!
Manny

Port Hueneme, CA

#165 Aug 5, 2010
Black American wrote:
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Yes, they should.
That's as ignorant as telling you to go back to Africa...You should be ashamed of yourself.
Manny

Port Hueneme, CA

#166 Aug 5, 2010
Rob wrote:
<quoted text>You do realize how dumb that makes you look? Not everyone with a spanish surname is Mexican. Just as not everyone with a spanish surname is latino. Making a statement like that, makes you appear racist.
Hey Rob, no where did he make the statement of them being mexican"

“President Texas Minutemen”

Since: Aug 07

Arlington, Texas

#167 Aug 9, 2010
Manny wrote:
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Hey Rob, no where did he make the statement of them being mexican"
Lets use the word "Hispanic". Where is Hispania anyway? I can't find it on the map.
Manny

Port Hueneme, CA

#168 Aug 10, 2010
McGauley wrote:
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Lets use the word "Hispanic". Where is Hispania anyway? I can't find it on the map.
Exactly! Hispania is an imaginary place where all brown people come from. There's no such place as Mexico, Central, or South America. Not to mention the Islands that have tons of spanish speaking brown folks! Bunch of BS.
Illegal Kenyan

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#169 Aug 11, 2010
barry wrote:
<quoted text>it was a nice try but not true.
It was true that you were caught blowing truck drivers at the local rest stop.

Since: Nov 09

Newnan, GA

#170 Aug 17, 2010
McGauley wrote:
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Lets use the word "Hispanic". Where is Hispania anyway? I can't find it on the map.
Me neither...what is the population of hispania....what is their primary export...what is the average rainfall in hispania each year....how about the climate??? what type of goverment do they have?

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