Zach Buza : innocent or guilty

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#322 Feb 19, 2013
Auntie M wrote:
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Goodbye Buza, WHOEVER you are. Leave a innocent child out of any comment. ONLY GOES TO SHOW you use a baby as a pawn. And are too immature to be responsible for a little girl. ONLY a child would amuse herself USING her baby to enjoy hurting baby girls family by denying them any visitation. When she really needs to be PROTECTED from Josie the female who gave birth ....and has yet to mature enough to be a mother. Josie should seek counseling to address her needs. BTW, JOSIE has THROWN her PRECIOUS LITTLE GIRL at Zach. Due to her games not getting the results she wanted. Witnessed. JOSIE ABANDONED her little girl with her father, Zachary with Grandmother until her demands of money were not met. So Josie could take up with ANOTHER 'fling' from work. PROMISE with all this dysfunction this poor baby does not have a chance to life and will go searching for her paternal family when she is able. Start counting the days. Every baby grows up!
Obviously you should have nothing to do with this innocent child. You preach about the mother using the girl as a pawn, yet you are on here bashing her mother??!! I don't know any of you personally, but I pray to God that you aren't allowed to be around this child. You'll mess her up in the head worse than she may already be! Stop placing the blame on everyone else! This boy needs to put on his big boy panties and accept responsibility. The drugs didn't make him pull the trigger, alcohol didn't make him pull the trigger, and his Momma didn't make him pull the trigger. HE chose to do that! That's why all these kids are heathens nowadays. No one makes them accept responsibility for THEIR OWN actions! Stop shifting the blame and put it where it belongs. Smdh!!
kitchen sink

Terre Haute, IN

#323 Feb 19, 2013
LovingWife2002 wrote:
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Obviously you should have nothing to do with this innocent child. You preach about the mother using the girl as a pawn, yet you are on here bashing her mother??!! I don't know any of you personally, but I pray to God that you aren't allowed to be around this child. You'll mess her up in the head worse than she may already be! Stop placing the blame on everyone else! This boy needs to put on his big boy panties and accept responsibility. The drugs didn't make him pull the trigger, alcohol didn't make him pull the trigger, and his Momma didn't make him pull the trigger. HE chose to do that! That's why all these kids are heathens nowadays. No one makes them accept responsibility for THEIR OWN actions! Stop shifting the blame and put it where it belongs. Smdh!!
Sounds like you need your clitoris removed with a spoon

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#324 Feb 19, 2013
kitchen sink wrote:
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Sounds like you need your clitoris removed with a spoon
Sounds like you need to pull yourself out of the gutter and grow up.
Auntie M

Terre Haute, IN

#326 Feb 19, 2013
LovingWife2002 wrote:
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Obviously you should have nothing to do with this innocent child. You preach about the mother using the girl as a pawn, yet you are on here bashing her mother??!! I don't know any of you personally, but I pray to God that you aren't allowed to be around this child. You'll mess her up in the head worse than she may already be! Stop placing the blame on everyone else! This boy needs to put on his big boy panties and accept responsibility. The drugs didn't make him pull the trigger, alcohol didn't make him pull the trigger, and his Momma didn't make him pull the trigger. HE chose to do that! That's why all these kids are heathens nowadays. No one makes them accept responsibility for THEIR OWN actions! Stop shifting the blame and put it where it belongs. Smdh!!
Cant take what you dish out? It was a response to a bashing.....go back and read from the beginning. Get the whole of it or leave it be. When our children talk about something that happened, we tell them not to leave out the part of what they did.....Dont paint a one sided perfect pretty picture.
You are sadly mistaken. It is not a matter of blaming anyone for the topic on this forum. Playing victim to gain attention with sympathy is somewhat considered projection. Since the 'relationship' seems to be of greater consideration another topix should be started titled: Josie vs. Zach.? Bash Zach parenting.? Stainted Mother Josie.? The people above mentioned should not even be mentioned. Since they are, my opinion is just what it is. Take your notes and keep score...."He said, She said".
As far as me seeing any child. I have mine own to tend to. What have I done for my children? You want to twist/flip parenting on me? HA! I WOULD LAY DOWN MY LIFE FOR MINE.
This is not a matter of picking teams in HS gym class. Who wants to play on Zachs team. Who wants to play on Josies team.
Food addiction

Terre Haute, IN

#327 Feb 19, 2013
porkchop wrote:
what's in a name? apparently a lot on topix.
its nice to know all you can do is make ignorant insults to me instead of an intelligent arguement.
carry on.
Porky which restraunt did you clean out today?
Josie

Terre Haute, IN

#328 Feb 19, 2013
Let's get something straight right now. I had no clue that anything was being said on this site until last night. I didn't even know anything about this site. that being said. Miranda I'm not asking for anyone to be on "team josie" the only thing I am worried about is how I am going to explain to my daughter why her father made the decisions he did. luckily I wont have to do that any time soon. I am heartbroken over what has happened I truly am. I always hoped that zach would grow up and be the father that our child needed him to be but he wasn't capable of that. I pray for zach daily. you all can bash me until you are blue in the face it doesn't bother me one bit. I will continue to take care of my daughter with out any help. she is a happy healthy and very intelligent little girl who absolutely loves sand castles and swimming. and she is a blessing in my life. I pray that everyone involved in this can find some peace, trust me I know it is hard. I have a hard time thinking about the fact that zach's young life has been wasted myself but I find strength in the fact that I know this is all part of God's plan for all of our lives even if we don't understand it. I wont be back on these sites. Me and my daughter are moving on with our lives.

“tired of the normal”

Since: May 11

San Bernadino

#332 Feb 19, 2013
Josie wrote:
Let's get something straight right now. I had no clue that anything was being said on this site until last night. I didn't even know anything about this site. that being said. Miranda I'm not asking for anyone to be on "team josie" the only thing I am worried about is how I am going to explain to my daughter why her father made the decisions he did. luckily I wont have to do that any time soon. I am heartbroken over what has happened I truly am. I always hoped that zach would grow up and be the father that our child needed him to be but he wasn't capable of that. I pray for zach daily. you all can bash me until you are blue in the face it doesn't bother me one bit. I will continue to take care of my daughter with out any help. she is a happy healthy and very intelligent little girl who absolutely loves sand castles and swimming. and she is a blessing in my life. I pray that everyone involved in this can find some peace, trust me I know it is hard. I have a hard time thinking about the fact that zach's young life has been wasted myself but I find strength in the fact that I know this is all part of God's plan for all of our lives even if we don't understand it. I wont be back on these sites. Me and my daughter are moving on with our lives.
Attagirl...

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#333 Feb 19, 2013
Auntie M wrote:
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Cant take what you dish out? It was a response to a bashing.....go back and read from the beginning. Get the whole of it or leave it be. When our children talk about something that happened, we tell them not to leave out the part of what they did.....Dont paint a one sided perfect pretty picture.
You are sadly mistaken. It is not a matter of blaming anyone for the topic on this forum. Playing victim to gain attention with sympathy is somewhat considered projection. Since the 'relationship' seems to be of greater consideration another topix should be started titled: Josie vs. Zach.? Bash Zach parenting.? Stainted Mother Josie.? The people above mentioned should not even be mentioned. Since they are, my opinion is just what it is. Take your notes and keep score...."He said, She said".
As far as me seeing any child. I have mine own to tend to. What have I done for my children? You want to twist/flip parenting on me? HA! I WOULD LAY DOWN MY LIFE FOR MINE.
This is not a matter of picking teams in HS gym class. Who wants to play on Zachs team. Who wants to play on Josies team.
As I stated in my previous post and the message, I don't know any of these people personally. But, earlier on in the thread there was a lot of "He's innocent! The cops started it." That was the blame shifting I was referring to.
Secondly, there is a little girl (who I assume you are related to) that will someday have to come face to face with the facts of what her father did. She may have a hard time with it and need some help from you dealing with it. It will only make things worse FOR THAT CHILD if she's anle to see what you post about her mother. I wasn't taking any sides, just observing, and I got attacked because you ASSUMED I was someone I am not. You know what they say happens when you assume...
cop lover

Brazil, IN

#334 Feb 19, 2013
I think the best thing for Josie and her little girl would be to stay far far away from the buza clan..
letthetruthbewit hyou

Indianapolis, IN

#335 Feb 19, 2013
In all honesty I think that josie's daughter should be kept out of these arguments this page is about what happened to Zach. There shouldn't be any bashing about a innocent Lil girl.
letthetruthbewit hyou

Indianapolis, IN

#336 Feb 19, 2013
was there seen it wrote:
<quoted text> What's the matter? Does the truth hurt chubs??? You started this verbal beating your getting for attacking a family you obviously know nothing about!!! Now shut up and eat another jelly donut fat boy!!!
U crack my shit up lmao :)
letthetruthbewit hyou

Indianapolis, IN

#339 Feb 20, 2013
was there seen it wrote:
<quoted text> By the way, thank you for sticking up for me earlier!
Anytime or like our dad

Since: Feb 13

Terre Haute, IN

#341 Feb 21, 2013
LOL filing for grandparent's rights? LOL that's funny cause in the state of Indiana there is NO SUCH THING as grandparents rights. figured you'd know that since you claim to be a lawyer and all....
SMDH

Chicago, IL

#342 Feb 21, 2013
AprilMessenger wrote:
LOL filing for grandparent's rights? LOL that's funny cause in the state of Indiana there is NO SUCH THING as grandparents rights. figured you'd know that since you claim to be a lawyer and all....
Yea well no one ever said this bunch is smart lmao wonder if that new free buza page will get him "free" when the other 5 were complete failures.... kinda like carolyns parenting skills
DDD

Waynesville, IL

#343 Feb 21, 2013
Actually, Indiana does have grandparents rights.

http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/title31...

IC 31-17-5-1
Right to seek visitation
Sec. 1.(a) A child's grandparent may seek visitation rights if:
(1) the child's parent is deceased;
(2) the marriage of the child's parents has been dissolved in Indiana; or
(3) subject to subsection (b), the child was born out of wedlock.
(b) A court may not grant visitation rights to a paternal grandparent of a child who is born out of wedlock under subsection (a)(3) if the child's father has not established paternity in relation to the child.
As added by P.L.1-1997, SEC.9.
Auntie M

Terre Haute, IN

#345 Feb 21, 2013
SMDH wrote:
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The child was born out of wedlock. Neither parent is deceased the father is incarcerated by his own violent ignorance. Paternity was never established. And the grandparents seeking "rights" are paternal grandparents. Therefore I would say they don't have a pot to piss in or window to throw it out of. Maybe if they'd act like they have some sense josie would allow visitation... just saying!
Would you stop taunting her. Really, this is a tragedy. If the boy had been home doing what he was suppose to this would not be. She lost her son and will never have him back. REALITY. You cannot imagine her pain.
Your right it is by his own ignorance.
SMDH

United States

#346 Feb 21, 2013
Auntie M wrote:
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Would you stop taunting her. Really, this is a tragedy. If the boy had been home doing what he was suppose to this would not be. She lost her son and will never have him back. REALITY. You cannot imagine her pain.
Your right it is by his own ignorance.
Not taunting just stating the facts. If they would stop threatening and blaming josie for thing that are not her fault then she wouldn't have reasons tokeep marleigh away. Trying to take everyone to court and acting like an asshole is not the way to go about things. If this were my son I'd be apologizing to the ppl he's hurt, admit to my own wrong doings and making amends. Trying to place blame or calling names is not the adult thing to do. I can't speak for josie but I know her well and she's hurting over this too! And it was not her intention to cut ur family out of the babies life but I honestly can't blame her after the way she's been treated n the horrible things being said about her. Its called an apology and Carolyn owes her a huge one

“tired of the normal”

Since: May 11

San Bernadino

#347 Feb 22, 2013
Better yet, where is that so-called "civil rights legal aid/ wanna be atty that keeps changing up her story? Come on now. You made threats of litigation here, threatened to have me thrown in jail. Where's your balls now? Perhaps you shouldn't make big dog threats with a puppy dog a$$
Dorothy

Indianapolis, IN

#348 Feb 22, 2013
This thread has become totally stupid, why does this kid deserve so much crap, he made a mistake, let him pay for it and move on.......
Auntie M

Terre Haute, IN

#349 Feb 22, 2013
SMDH wrote:
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Not taunting just stating the facts. If they would stop threatening and blaming josie for thing that are not her fault then she wouldn't have reasons tokeep marleigh away. Trying to take everyone to court and acting like an asshole is not the way to go about things. If this were my son I'd be apologizing to the ppl he's hurt, admit to my own wrong doings and making amends. Trying to place blame or calling names is not the adult thing to do. I can't speak for josie but I know her well and she's hurting over this too! And it was not her intention to cut ur family out of the babies life but I honestly can't blame her after the way she's been treated n the horrible things being said about her. Its called an apology and Carolyn owes her a huge one
Totally in agreement. Actually, for some reason I am unable to see anything posted by Carolyn. But I can see posts by everyone else. My stand is while airing dirty laundry do not paint a one sided pretty picture. Between the kids, they both made mistakes between them in actions taken. We can sit here all day and be about, "he said, she said" "he did this and she did that". In the end nothing is resolved. Nobody wins. People are looking real stupid with mud all over them.
My worry is that with all this drama. One day when she is older someone is gonna put this to her. The only thing she needs to know is the good. This is not a burden she should EVER have to carry.
It is not my place to declare: innocent or guilty. IF Zach was home where he belonged doing what he was supposed to be doing we would not be dealing with this. Words cannot express the depth or width of my grief. Peace be with all involved.

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