Senate Bill SEA 18

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Since: Jun 12

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Jul 18, 2012
 
Looking for people that have thoughts on this bill that was passed and became effective July 1 2012

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Since: Jan 12

Terre Haute, In

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Jul 19, 2012
 
It seems ridiculous to pay child support for an ADULT. A person who is 18 years of age is an adult and doesn't need support any longer. I say, terminate all child support at 18, make no exceptions for education, terminate all financial support.

It's unfair for a man to have to pay in instances where the mother uses some or all of the money for her own personal use. We all know the truth, many, many recipients of child support abuse the funds they receive.

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Jul 19, 2012
 
Wow I am glad I am not your child. America is so stupid, they preach about education, but do not look at the big picture. No wonder Japan kicks our ass in being smart. They get it.

Plus I think it is just sad that people have to rely on the court system to tell them the amount to pay for the child. Why have them in the first place if your so incapable of responsibilty? I will be damned if I have to have someone tell me hey your kid needs x amount of dollars, I raised 6 kids I would move heaven and earth to make sure they are ok.

Most people are selfish, obviously kickin someone to the curb just cause they are 18. Well I don't think they are adults, it is 21, that is when they can drink, if that is the case lower the age for drinking and let the kids run for president at that age, we would be better off.

I think the bill was politically and money motivated and I think it is shady as hell. Of course it doesn't really matter what I think, but it is fun to get it out.

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Jul 20, 2012
 
Ima G wrote:
Wow I am glad I am not your child. America is so stupid, they preach about education, but do not look at the big picture. No wonder Japan kicks our ass in being smart. They get it.
http://www.iapcr.org/japan-child-support-dead...

The Asahi Shimbun on 5/18/2010 in an article describes how disputes over child support rose in 2009, with already divorced mothers and fathers filing 18,513 new arbitration requests nationwide over child support expenses in family courts; this a 17% increase over 2008. This ostensibly due to difficulties in the economy. A total of 2,911 cases which couldn’t be resolved through arbitration went into regular court. This a new postwar high.

But here is the dirty little secret of Japan. As reported in the article and backed up by Japanese government statistics, less than 20% of divorced mothers actual receive any money from ex-husbands. You’re reading that correctly. Over 80% of divorced Japanese fathers pay zero in child support for their children. This is an abysmal record. In a country which prides itself on the family and strong financial support from fathers it comes as a major contradiction.

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Jul 21, 2012
 
I am talking about their educational values, i don't really care about if the Japanese pay for their children, that is not my issue. I am saying most of all that it is unfair to make a law, that takes away from something that was already settled 15 years ago in a court of law.

My children work, but it because I have worked my ass off to make sure we have someway to get them there. Not everyone has that luxury, people say kids need to work, but when you live in a large area, and the transportation is not there, it makes it very difficult.

I just feel the state of Indiana is going backwards, I will do what I do to take care of mine, but seriously if you feel that way about children, don't have any.

Children are more than just someone you have to pay for.

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Jul 21, 2012
 
Ima G wrote:
Wow I am glad I am not your child. America is so stupid, they preach about education, but do not look at the big picture. No wonder Japan kicks our ass in being smart. They get it.
Plus I think it is just sad that people have to rely on the court system to tell them the amount to pay for the child. Why have them in the first place if your so incapable of responsibilty? I will be damned if I have to have someone tell me hey your kid needs x amount of dollars, I raised 6 kids I would move heaven and earth to make sure they are ok.
Most people are selfish, obviously kickin someone to the curb just cause they are 18. Well I don't think they are adults, it is 21, that is when they can drink, if that is the case lower the age for drinking and let the kids run for president at that age, we would be better off.
I think the bill was politically and money motivated and I think it is shady as hell. Of course it doesn't really matter what I think, but it is fun to get it out.
You don't think 18 is an adult? The state and fed disagree with you, as does the rest of the country.

Those that turn 18 can: join the military, hold legal ownership of items (buy a car, home, ect..), go to jail, gamble, be sued, enter into legal contracts.

The law views an 18 year old as an adult. Why should any one person (the father) be forced to pay child support to someone who is no longer a child?

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Jul 21, 2012
 
I think your reasoning is selfish. I disagree with the state and feds, and I believe that Mississippi and New York still have the 21 age of emancipation. They also need to lower the drinking age to 18 if they feel that strongly about those 18 year olds being adults. I mean if we are going to set them up for failure lets just go all the way with it.

I personally want more for my children,then to just say okay dude, ur 18so figure stuff out on your own. I mean isn't it in Americas best interest to have them be able to make the most amount of money that they can so they can pay more taxes. They won't be able to do that working at Walmart the rest of their lives.

I still stand by my statement Children are more than just something you pay for.

I still believe it is unfair to pass a law and have it go all the way back, if they needed to pass it, it should be starting now. I have spoke with some attorneys who believe it will be a constitutional issue.

You seem to think that paying child support is a forced issue? That in its self is a poor opinion. So when you buy a car, do you feel forced to pay for it? We are talking about the future of our nation, unless of course you are of the mindset of a communist, and you want everyone to fail, and be uneducated. God help us all.

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