'Unlikely' Entergy will continue Vermont Yankee

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Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

#1 Jan 4, 2013
I think the calculation is a lot more complicated...

Will shutting down a plant have more drag on profits than operating a unprofitable plant.

Will shutting down a plant like VY lead to a lost of credibility...will it make it easier to shutdown other entergy nuclear.

As an example, will will shutting down, say VY, spook the investor community...thinking, oh boy, here comes a lot of futher plant shutdowns due to low load and natural gas.
Jesus Christ

New Boston, NH

#2 Jan 4, 2013
Mike Mulligan wrote:
I think the calculation is a lot more complicated...
Will shutting down a plant have more drag on profits than operating a unprofitable plant.
Will shutting down a plant like VY lead to a lost of credibility...will it make it easier to shutdown other entergy nuclear.
As an example, will will shutting down, say VY, spook the investor community...thinking, oh boy, here comes a lot of futher plant shutdowns due to low load and natural gas.
Very astute my son.

Even if VY is not pulling in the profits right now due to a glut of cheap natural gas, there are numerous other issues in play.

I don't see a plant shutdown in the near term assuming the status quo.
God Hates NukedomAnd GMOs

Brattleboro, VT

#3 Jan 4, 2013
"I don't see a plant shutdown in the near term"

-The PSB hasn't ruled yet
Have faith JC!

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A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.-Proverbs 22:3

And that's REPEATED (God's emphasis/rubbing it in) in 27:12

'Chernobyl' is the russian word for wormwood (a poisonous plant) and the book of Revelation 8:11 prophesizes that the waters will become like wormwood!

As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.- Proverbs 22:11

the line from the old Blue Oyster Cult hit 'Godzilla'-
"History shows again and again how nature points up the FOLLY of Man"
(Japanese watched Godzilla movies to help them deal with the horror of nuke bombs being dropped on them)

"In Godzilla and similar giant monster genre movies that followed it, man is seen as helpless before nature, but a vengeful form of nature exacerbated by human activity and technological hubris. Fast forward a few decades, when Japan stands as one of the world’s technology giants, comfortable enough with nuclear energy and its own engineering prowess to built nuclear power plants near seismic fault lines. The combination of a 9.0 earthquake, the tsunami surges that follow and the subsequent breakdown of human safeguards serves as a Godzilla-sized metaphor for the FOLLY of man."

great anti-nuke rant by a Japanese guy->
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/arch...
Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

#4 Jan 4, 2013
This got to be a VY pronuker!
G-d Hates F-gs

Brattleboro, VT

#5 Jan 4, 2013
I'm not sure about G-d hates modern technology in any form, unless its for abortions! But the Lord does hate liers, homosexuals, liberals, women usurping men, and many other things. But nuclear power? Science based agriculture? Not likely.
Reality

Claremont, NH

#6 Jan 4, 2013
G-d Hates F-gs wrote:
I'm not sure about G-d hates modern technology in any form, unless its for abortions! But the Lord does hate liers, homosexuals, liberals, women usurping men, and many other things. But nuclear power? Science based agriculture? Not likely.
How about people who murder doctors?

How about people who think that murdering docters is a good and moral action?
Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

#7 Jan 4, 2013
You ain't got the guts to say that under your real name.
You are a little girl.
Reality

Claremont, NH

#8 Jan 4, 2013
Mike Mulligan wrote:
You ain't got the guts to say that under your real name.
You are a little girl.
No, I am a rational person with a very healthy fear of irrational people who think that religious delusions are a justification for murdering doctors.
Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

#9 Jan 4, 2013
Paranoid and egocentric too...
SueQ AllConfused As Usual

United States

#10 Jan 5, 2013
doctors traditionally would take the Hippocratic Oath to do NO harm
any MD who aborts the life of helpless innocent babies is no 'doctor' but a murderer, such take the Hypocritic oath to serve satan
Religion doesn't neccesarily have anything to do with abortion, whether one believes in God and His adversary etc. if you condone abortion* you condone evil. The Roe v Wade SC decision does Not say one has a right to murder the preborn baby

*except of course when mother's own life is threatened by birthing, and victims of incest or rape can use the 'morning after pill'.
Big Nose

Little Rock, AR

#11 Jan 7, 2013
Great!!!! We have a religious freak on the forum.
Agnostic

Bennington, VT

#14 Jan 7, 2013
Jesus Christ wrote:
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Very astute my son.
Even if VY is not pulling in the profits right now due to a glut of cheap natural gas, there are numerous other issues in play.
I don't see a plant shutdown in the near term assuming the status quo.
Evan, nice to see your dad can afford to send you to private school. How lucky you are.
I Know More Than You

New Boston, NH

#15 Jan 7, 2013
Fox News Idiot wrote:
Evan, nice to see your dad can afford to send you to private school. How lucky you are.
Not sure what you fixation with young teen boys is but it doesn't seem healthy.
Agnostic

Bennington, VT

#16 Jan 8, 2013
I Know More Than You wrote:
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Not sure what you fixation with young teen boys is but it doesn't seem healthy.
Oh Evan, you know you love the attention.
Agnostic

Bennington, VT

#17 Jan 8, 2013
Reality wrote:
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No, I am a rational person with a very healthy fear of irrational people who think that religious delusions are a justification for murdering doctors.
You fear that irrational people will go out and kill doctors is irrational. How is your fear manifesting itself? Are you losing sleep? Does it make you feel anxious?
Reality

Claremont, NH

#18 Jan 8, 2013
Agnostic wrote:
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You fear that irrational people will go out and kill doctors is irrational. How is your fear manifesting itself? Are you losing sleep? Does it make you feel anxious?
Here is an incoplete list of irrational people who went out to kill doctors or do violent acts in the name of their god delusion:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_vi...

"United States
Murders

In the U.S., violence directed towards abortion providers has killed at least eight people, including four doctors, two clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.[8][9]

March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of 1992. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.
July 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside another facility, the Ladies Center, in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings. Hill received a death sentence and was executed on September 3, 2003. The clinic in Pensacola had been bombed before and was also bombed subsequently, in 1984 and 2012.
December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi was arrested and confessed to the killings. He died in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.
January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.
October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death with a high-powered rifle at his home in Amherst, New York.[10] His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Slepian's murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001.

May 31, 2009: Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed by Scott Roeder as Tiller served as an usher at church in Wichita, Kansas.[11]

Attempted murder, assault, and kidnapping

According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers.[12] Attempted murders in the U.S. included:[8][13][14]

August 19, 1993: Dr. George Tiller was shot outside of an abortion facility in Wichita, Kansas. Shelley Shannon was charged with the crime and received an 11-year prison sentence (20 years were later added for arson and acid attacks on clinics).
July 29, 1994: June Barret was shot in the same attack which claimed the lives of James Barrett, her husband, and Dr. John Britton.
December 30, 1994: Five individuals were wounded in the shootings which killed Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols.
October 28, 1997: Dr. David Gandell of Rochester, New York was injured by flying glass when a shot was fired through the window of his home.[15]
January 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured, and lost an eye, in the bombing which also killed Robert Sanderson." ...
Reality

Claremont, NH

#19 Jan 8, 2013
continued from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_vi...

..."Arson, bombing, and property crime

According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid ("stink bombs").[12] The New York Times also cites over one hundred clinic bombings and incidents of arson, over three hundred invasions, and over four hundred incidents of vandalism between 1978 and 1993.[16] The first clinic arson occurred in Oregon in March 1976 and the first bombing occurred in February 1978 in Ohio.[17] Incidents have included:

December 25, 1984: An abortion clinic and two physicians' offices in Pensacola, Florida were bombed in the early morning of Christmas Day by a quartet of young people (Matt Goldsby, Jimmy Simmons, Kathy Simmons, Kaye Wiggins) who later called the bombings "a gift to Jesus on his birthday."[18][19][20] The clinic, the Ladies Center, would later be the site of the murder of Dr. John Britton and James Barrett in 1994 and a firebombing in 2012.
May 21, 1998: Three people were injured when acid was poured at the entrances of five abortion clinics in Miami, Florida.[21]
October 1999: Martin Uphoff set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, causing US$100 worth of damage. He was later sentenced to 60 months in prison.[22]
May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire resulted in several thousand dollars' worth of damage. The case remains unsolved.[23][24][25] This was the second arson at the clinic.[26]
September 30, 2000: John Earl, a Catholic priest, drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. He pulled out an ax before being forced to the ground by the owner of the building, who fired two warning shots from a shotgun.[27]
June 11, 2001: An unsolved bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington destroyed a wall, resulting in $6,000 in damages.[22][28]
July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida was the target of an arson. The case remains open.[22]
December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year. Hughes claimed the bomb was a "memorial lamp" for an abortion she had had there.[29]
September 11, 2006 David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan, crashed his car into the Edgerton Women's Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions; however, Edgerton is not an abortion clinic.[30] Time magazine listed the incident in a "Top 10 Inept Terrorist Plots" list.[31]
April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas, contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device after evacuating the building. Paul Ross Evans (who had a criminal record for armed robbery and theft) was found guilty of the crime.[32]" ...
Reality

Claremont, NH

#20 Jan 8, 2013
continued from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_vi...

..." May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.[33]
December 6, 2007: Chad Altman and Sergio Baca were arrested for the arson of Dr. Curtis Boyd's clinic in Albuquerque. Baca's girlfriend had scheduled an appointment for an abortion at the clinic.[34][35]
January 22, 2009 Matthew L. Derosia, 32, who was reported to have had a history of mental illness[36] rammed an SUV into the front entrance of a Planned Parenthood clinic in St. Paul, Minnesota.[37]
January 1, 2012 Bobby Joe Rogers, 41, firebombed the American Family Planning Clinic in Pensacola, Florida with a Molotov cocktail; the fire gutted the building. Rogers told investigators that he was motivated to commit the crime by his opposition to abortion, and that what more directly prompted the act was seeing a patient enter the clinic during one of the frequent anti-abortion protests there. The clinic had previously been bombed at Christmas in 1984 and was the site of the murder of Dr. John Britton and James Barrett in 1994.[38]

April 1, 2012 A bomb exploded on the windowsill of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Grand Chute, Wisconsin, resulting in a fire that damaged one of the clinic's examination rooms. No injuries were reported. On April 3, the FBI arrested 50-year-old Francis Grady on charges of "arson of a building used in interstate commerce" and "intentionally damaging the property of a facility that provides reproductive health services".[39]"
Reality

Claremont, NH

#21 Jan 8, 2013
Mike Mulligan wrote:
Paranoid and egocentric too...
Nope, just right.
Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

#22 Jan 8, 2013
No, I think it is about weak and insecure people who have a quenchable need to fit into a clan or group of people.

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