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Captain Obvious

Claremont, NH

#126 Jan 13, 2013
I am afraid comrade that no sane person is going to value very much the opinion of someone who thinks that witchcraft is real.

But do let us know when you've finally captured a leprechaun, stolen his gold and flown away on your invisible pink unicorn.
Truth reason knowledge

Claremont, NH

#127 Jan 13, 2013
Crash of the Titans: Milky Way and Andromeda Galaxy


So much cooler and more interesting than primitive superstitions ...
Agnostic

Brattleboro, VT

#128 Jan 14, 2013
Yes Worth repeating wrote:
Even if Hitler was lying ( a speculation for which there is simply no good evidence ), it was his version of christian nationalism that infected the genocidal German people and fired the ovens of the Holocaust.
It was in no way an atheistic movement.
It was the superstition of christian nationalism which murdered all of those people.
It is pretty clear he just used religion to dupe people but he was an unbeliever. Just like you.
QsBS DebunkedAgainAnd Agai

Newton Center, MA

#129 Jan 14, 2013
"the opinion of someone who thinks that witchcraft is real."
ewe tell em what they do ain't real Q--

one of The most popular Meetup dot com groups is witches Q
Wiccan.meetup.com/
^enlarge the US map there and see the Tens of Thousands of witches all over the country
They mostly prefer to be called 'wiccans' although there are also meetup groups who have no problem calling themselves 'witches'
Bookstores like the one on Elliot St. Bratt have witchcraft books

Now splain THIS...
http://www.google.com/search...
^maybe this is why we send polititians we beLIEve are good to DC only to see them get POSSESSED!
I Know More Than You

Gilford, NH

#130 Jan 14, 2013
Fox News Idiot wrote:
It is pretty clear he just used religion to dupe people but he was an unbeliever. Just like you.
Nothing here but your typical bullshit without a scrap of support.

You are still a liar and fraud.
Yup

Claremont, NH

#131 Jan 14, 2013
I Know More Than You wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing here but your typical bullshit without a scrap of support.
You are still a liar and fraud.
I totally agree, what a bore ...
Annie Cries Twitches REAL

Newton Center, MA

#132 Jan 14, 2013
Bores Helped Make Us Free

Newton Center, MA

#133 Jan 14, 2013
Yup wrote:
<quoted text>
I totally agree, what a bore ...
yeah ain't bores great!?
http://www.google.com/search...
^now Q ewe sound like that Yeager guy ewe'r so paranoically frightened of in that paranoically titled 'Christian Plot' thread ewe started!
Truth reason knowledge

Claremont, NH

#134 Jan 15, 2013
How Beliefs Resist Change - Christianity and Cognitive Science
&fe ature=share
So sad

Claremont, NH

#135 Jan 15, 2013
What religion has contributed to the world this month - Episode 2 (dec 2012/jan 2013)
Truth reason knowledge

Claremont, NH

#136 Jan 15, 2013
How Viral Ideas Hook Us
&li st=UUuff10A6JeheV__mso67QdA &index=2
Agnostic

Brattleboro, VT

#137 Jan 15, 2013
Yup wrote:
<quoted text>
I totally agree, what a bore ...
Ah Evan the 14 year old angry liberal atheist finds a friend. How sweet for you two. Why is it no surprise that the most laughed at poster on here, Evan, is sympatico with the second most laughed at poster the Newport atheist who not only thinks he knows everything but thinks he has to ridicule the beliefs of billions of people while remaining totally ignorant of the logical failure of his own beliefs.
Truth reason knowledge

Claremont, NH

#139 Jan 31, 2013
President Obama, Please Call for a Second Giant Leap for Mankind
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/zack-kopplin/sc...
Posted: 01/28/2013

"Dear President Obama,

Fifty years ago, President John F. Kennedy stood at Rice, my university, and declared that we would put a man on the moon, in that decade. He called for a scientific revolution.

Mr. President, we need another scientific revolution; we must have a second giant leap for Mankind.

My generation will face unprecedented challenges to our way of living and to our survival as a species. Our population continues to climb, but the amount of clean water and living space we have on Earth has been stretched thin. Our climate is growing increasingly extreme. A disease like the Avian Flu, which (currently) has a 60 percent mortality rate, could become transmitted by humans and turn into a worldwide pandemic in our age of rapid travel. The Earth is experiencing a rapid decline of biodiversity, especially in our oceans. We could be faced with a killer asteroid in the near future.

I know these threats sound like science fiction, but they are real and my generation will have to address them. The way to overcome these challenges and ensure the continued long-term existence of our species is through investment in rapid scientific innovation.

To make this second giant leap possible, the culture surrounding science in America must change. Too many have rejected evidence-based science. Nearly 60 percent of American public school biology teachers are not teaching evolution properly and another 13 percent admit to teaching creationism. Almost half of Americans believe that the Earth was formed in the last 10,000 years. Taxpayer funded schools in my home state of Louisiana are teaching that scientists and their scientific work are "sinful." At least 300 taxpayer funded voucher schools nationwide are teaching creationism. Teachers in public schools in Louisiana and Tennessee are teaching unscientific "alternatives" to evolution, the origin of the Earth, and climate change, and this is allowed by state law. Other states may soon follow suit.

Denying and misteaching evidence-based science like evolution and climate science will confuse our students about the nature of science and stifle future American scientists and scientific innovation.

The politics surrounding science also must change. A member of the U.S. House of Representatives Science Committee recently called evolution, embryology and the Big Bang theory "lies straight from the pit of hell." The former Chairman of this same committee believes that climate change is a massive conspiracy that scientists created to get more funding. He then tried to cut science funding. Another member of this committee suggested cutting down more trees as a measure to reduce global warming. Former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) attempted to sneak a creationism law into President Bush's No Child Left Behind Act. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) and others hosted a Congressional briefing called "Scientific Evidence of Intelligent Design and its Implications for Public Policy and Education." Campaigns are being led against vaccines. The current cuts to federal funding for basic scientific research could prevent our country from launching the next Hubble Telescope or the next Human Genome Project. We would never have created the Internet or launched the Manhattan Project if we had cut science funding." ...
OMG Killer Asss On Roids

Brattleboro, VT

#140 Jan 31, 2013
"Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) and others hosted a Congressional briefing called "Scientific Evidence of Intelligent Design and its Implications for Public Policy and Education." "
-yes Lee calls herself a Christian but also happens to be a pro-abortion liberal therefore ewe'r ilk doesn't really hate her

"The former Chairman of this same committee believes that climate change is a massive conspiracy that scientists created to get more funding. He then tried to cut science funding."
-just the junk science funding"
GlobalClimateScam.com
ClimateDepot.com

"Campaigns are being led against vaccines."
-just the ones Proven to be deadly and ineffective as Admitted by major research doctors and even the CDC, and standing up for the Right to not be forcibly medicated/poisoned
Vaclib.org

"A disease like the Avian Flu, which (currently) has a 60 percent mortality rate, could become transmitted by humans and turn into a worldwide pandemic in our age of rapid travel. The Earth is experiencing a rapid decline of biodiversity, especially in our oceans. We could be faced with a killer asteroid in the near future."
-guess what kid, the flu bugs we've already had for many years also got transmitted thru pigs and birds to humans, those politicos ewe've been taught to hate and fear are not standing in the way of the scientific discoveries that could stop a giant asteroid from hitting us as ewe fear, such science won't likely ever exist anyhow, better to stop the FDA and Big Pharma from standing in the way of REAL cancer cures and good doctors like Burzynski and Andrew Wakefield
http://www.examiner.com/article/dr-burzynski-...
OMG you are so stupid

Claremont, NH

#141 Jan 31, 2013
OMG Killer Asss On Roids wrote:
"Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) and others hosted a Congressional briefing called "Scientific Evidence of Intelligent Design and its Implications for Public Policy and Education." "
-yes Lee calls herself a Christian but also happens to be a pro-abortion liberal therefore ewe'r ilk doesn't really hate her
"The former Chairman of this same committee believes that climate change is a massive conspiracy that scientists created to get more funding. He then tried to cut science funding."
-just the junk science funding"
GlobalClimateScam.com
ClimateDepot.com
"Campaigns are being led against vaccines."
-just the ones Proven to be deadly and ineffective as Admitted by major research doctors and even the CDC, and standing up for the Right to not be forcibly medicated/poisoned
Vaclib.org
"A disease like the Avian Flu, which (currently) has a 60 percent mortality rate, could become transmitted by humans and turn into a worldwide pandemic in our age of rapid travel. The Earth is experiencing a rapid decline of biodiversity, especially in our oceans. We could be faced with a killer asteroid in the near future."
-guess what kid, the flu bugs we've already had for many years also got transmitted thru pigs and birds to humans, those politicos ewe've been taught to hate and fear are not standing in the way of the scientific discoveries that could stop a giant asteroid from hitting us as ewe fear, such science won't likely ever exist anyhow, better to stop the FDA and Big Pharma from standing in the way of REAL cancer cures and good doctors like Burzynski and Andrew Wakefield
http://www.examiner.com/article/dr-burzynski-...
Seriously, you are really stupid.

And a sad example of scientific illiteracy.
Reality

Claremont, NH

#142 Jan 31, 2013
Emails Link Jeb Bush Education Group To Officials And ALEC
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/emails... -
By Susie Madrak January 31, 2013

"Let me see if I can keep this simple: Most of these "reform" education organizations are in it to make money. Period. They dress it up, they make inspirational movies about "choice", they talk about "the children," but it pretty much comes down to the basic conservative philosophy: Take a public institution, privatize it, strip it of assets and turn it into a cash cow for investors. It's not about quality, and it's not complicated.

And so the Bush family empire has expanded from the oil business into the education business. No need to give them the benefit of the doubt, we already know what they and their cronies are about: And that's why ALEC is in the thick of this pseudo-reform movement:

A nonprofit group released thousands of e-mails today and said they show how a foundation begun by Jeb Bush, the former Florida governor and national education reform leader, is working with public officials in states to write education laws that could benefit some of its corporate funders.

A call to the foundation has not been returned.

The e-mails are between the Foundation for Excellence in Education (FEE) and a group Bush set up called Chiefs for Change, whose members are current and former state education commissioners who support Bush’s agenda of school reform, which includes school choice, online education, retention of third-graders who can’t read and school accountability systems based on standardized tests. That includes evaluating teachers based on student test scores and grading schools A-F based on test scores. John White of Louisiana is a current member, as is Tony Bennett, the new commissioner of Florida who got the job after Indiana voters rejected his Bush-style reforms last November and tossed him out of office.

Donald Cohen, chair of the nonprofit In the Public Interest, a resource center on privatization and responsible for contracting in the public sector, said the e-mails show how education companies that have been known to contribute to the foundation are using the organization “to move an education agenda that may or not be in our interests but are in theirs.”

[...] The e-mails were obtained by Cohen’s group through public record requests and are available here, complete with a search function. They reveal — conclusively, he said — that foundation staff members worked to promote the interests of some of their funders in Florida, New Mexico, Maine, Oklahoma, Rhode Island and Louisiana.

The Web site of the Foundation for Excellence in Education used to list some of their donors but no longer does and is not required to list all of its donors to the public under tax rules for 5013C organizations. However, it is known that the foundation has received support from for-profit companies K12 and Pearson and Amplify, as well as the nonprofit College Board.

There are strong connections between FEE and the conservative American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), according to the nonprofit Center for Media and Democracy:

Aptly named FEE, Bush’s group is backed by many of the same for-profit school corporations that have funded ALEC and vote as equals with its legislators on templates to change laws governing America’s public schools. FEE is also bankrolled by many of the same hard-right foundations bent on privatizing public schools that have funded ALEC. And, they have pushed many of the same changes to the law, which benefit their corporate benefactors and satisfy the free market fundamentalism of the billionaires whose tax-deductible charities underwrite the agenda of these two groups." ...
Reality

Claremont, NH

#143 Jan 31, 2013
continued from:
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/emails... -

..."FEE and ALEC also have had some of the same “experts” as members or staff, part of the revolving door between right-wing groups. They have also collaborated on the annual ALEC education “report card” that grades states’ allegiance to their policy agenda higher than actual student performance. That distorted report card also rewards states that push ALEC’s beloved union-busting measures while giving low grades to states with students who actually perform best on standardized knowledge tests."

Jeb Bush on disrupting the education monopoly so he and his friends can take over.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
HillaryHad AmbStevensKilt

Newton Center, MA

#144 Jan 31, 2013
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&sc... Attack Forces Conservative Group to Drop Defense of Second Amendment

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Washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/22/the-real...
http://www.infowars.com/soros-funded-attack-f...

Familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail...

ALEC, the American Legislative Exchange Council, has decided to back away from defending the Second Amendment and the right of Americans to defend themselves. ALEC made the decision after the Soros-funded liberal attack dog Color of Change intimidated a number of ALEC’s corporate sponsors, including Coca-Cola Co, McDonald’s, Kraft Foods Inc. and PepsiCo Inc.

Color of Change is mobilizing to defeat “stand your ground” self defense laws in a number of states following the Trayvon Martin incident. ALEC said it will concentrate on economic issues instead of championing the right of people to defend themselves.

The Soros group said ALEC’s announcement does not go far enough. Corporate members should hold ALEC “accountable for the damage it has caused nationwide,” said Rashad Robinson, Color of Change’s executive director, according to Reuters.

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has also severed ties to ALEC in recent weeks.

Peter Bella, writing for the Washington Times, said Color of Change had managed to turn “corporate public relations people into quivering gelatinous masses of jiggling glop.” He characterized Color of Change as “an organization dedicated to shutting down free speech, free expression, free markets, and free enterprise. They are against capitalism and civil liberties. They want to repeal the Second Amendment, force people to be victims, and are against stopping voter fraud.”

The organization was co-founded in 2005 by James Rucker and Van Jones. Rucker was director of Grassroots Mobilization for MoveOn.org , another George Soros funded political group. Jones was Special Advisor for Green Jobs in the Obama administration, a position he resigned from after it was learned that he belonged to Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement, a San Francisco Bay-Area Marxist-Maoist collective.
Truth reason knowledge

Claremont, NH

#146 Feb 2, 2013
Lawrence Krauss - Big Think
http://bigthink.com/ideas/49178

"It amazes me that people have pre-existing notions that defy the evidence of reality. But that they hold onto them so dearly. And one of them is the notion of creationism, or. in fact, Senator Marco Rubio, who’s presumably a reasonably intelligent man and maybe even educated, was asked what’s the age of the Earth, and ultimately, either because he actually believed it or he was trying to appeal to some constituency, had to argue that it’s a big mystery, that somehow we should teach kids both ideas, that the Earth is 6,000 years old and that it’s 4.55 billion years old, which is what it is.

If you think about that, somehow saying that, well, anything goes, we shouldn't offend religious beliefs by requiring kids to know - to understand reality; that’s child abuse. And if you think about it, teaching kids - or allowing the notion that the earth is 6,000 years old to be promulgated in schools is like teaching kids that the distance across the United States is 17 feet. That’s how big an error it is.

Now you might say, look, a lot of people believe that, so don’t we owe it to them to allow their views to be present in school? Well, as I’ve often said, the purpose of education is not to validate ignorance but to overcome it. Fifty percent of the people in the United States, when we probe them each year with the National Science Foundation, think that the sun goes around the Earth, not that the Earth goes around the sun. When we asked the question - we provide the question: The Earth goes around the sun and takes a year to do it; true or false? Almost every year, 50 percent of the people get that wrong.

Now, does that mean in schools we should allow the anti-Galilean and Copernican idea that the sun goes around the Earth to be taught? Absolutely not. If, in fact, the very fact that people don’t know that, and the very fact that enough people are willing to somehow believe that Earth is 6,000 years old, means we have to do a better job of teaching physics and biology, not a worse job.

The last thing we want to do is water down the teaching of biology because some people don’t recognize that evolution happened. Evolution is the basis of modern biology and, in fact, if a lot of people don’t believe it, it only means we have to do a better job teaching it. So once again, I repeat, the purpose of education is not to validate ignorance, but to overcome it. And to overcome a situation where a United States Senator can speak such manifest nonsense with impunity is vitally important to the healthy future of our society.

Technology and biotechnology will be the basis of our economic future. And if we allow nonsense to be promulgated in the schools, we do a disservice to our students, a disservice to our children, and we’re guaranteeing that they will fall behind in a competitive world that depends upon a skilled workforce able to understand and manipulate technology and science."

watch it:
http://bigthink.com/ideas/49178
Gott mit uns

Claremont, NH

#147 Mar 19, 2013
Bombing For Jesus

"A report by a national security expert reveals military leaders are overtly promoting evangelical Christianity. Is fundamentalist religion in the military on the rise?"

watch it:
http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/radi...

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