Truth reason knowledge
Actual reality

Newport, NH

#83 Jan 3, 2013
OccupyReality wrote:
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No one is saying god did it. But can that possibility be excluded from a scientific point of view? You don't know. Man doesn't know even what it doesn't know. So how can you be so sure? To be so sure requires an act of faith.
The burden of proof
Agnostic

Brattleboro, VT

#84 Jan 3, 2013
Actual reality wrote:
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The burden of proof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =KayBys8gaJYXX
Why don't you post your own ideas instead of just posting links that are not even on point?
Actual reality

Newport, NH

#85 Jan 3, 2013
Agnostic wrote:
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Why don't you post your own ideas instead of just posting links that are not even on point?
This video illustrates my position beautifully.

It is not my fault that your position is so weak that it can be discounted easily with a video on youtube.

That's your fault for being so intellectually dishonest.
I Know More Than You

Keene, NH

#86 Jan 3, 2013
Pot Meet Kettle wrote:
not even on point
That's rich coming you!
Truth reason knowledge

Newport, NH

#87 Jan 4, 2013
Agnostic

Brattleboro, VT

#88 Jan 4, 2013
Truth reason knowledge wrote:
The Case Against Faith
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =W927Vh2dgpYXX
When are you going to figure out that Dawkins is an angry fool? And he is creepy. He doesn't convince people. He is so obnoxious people who are on the fence turn to religion to spite him.
Reality

Newport, NH

#89 Jan 4, 2013
Agnostic wrote:
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When are you going to figure out that Dawkins is an angry fool? And he is creepy. He doesn't convince people. He is so obnoxious people who are on the fence turn to religion to spite him.
Considering the very public accolades so many people give him and the many thousands of letters and e-mails he receives thanking him for explaining things and pulling people out of the trap of religious delusion, I would have to strongly disagree with that assumption.
Agnostic

Brattleboro, VT

#90 Jan 4, 2013
Reality wrote:
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Considering the very public accolades so many people give him and the many thousands of letters and e-mails he receives thanking him for explaining things and pulling people out of the trap of religious delusion, I would have to strongly disagree with that assumption.
There are enough people who are atheists to satisfy what you said. But like I said there are a lot of irrational atheists who think it is their calling to bully other people out of their religious beliefs. Thousands of letters and emails only shows that there are that many other nuts out there.
Agnostic

Brattleboro, VT

#91 Jan 4, 2013
Reality wrote:
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Considering the very public accolades so many people give him and the many thousands of letters and e-mails he receives thanking him for explaining things and pulling people out of the trap of religious delusion, I would have to strongly disagree with that assumption.
I find satisfaction in watching Dawkins because when confronted he gets all blustery and emotional. Anyone who is as arrogant as he is deserves to be stuffed. A lot.
Reality

Newport, NH

#92 Jan 4, 2013
Agnostic wrote:
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There are enough people who are atheists to satisfy what you said. But like I said there are a lot of irrational atheists who think it is their calling to bully other people out of their religious beliefs. Thousands of letters and emails only shows that there are that many other nuts out there.
When a rational person refuses to respect an irrational proposition like an invisible omniscient dictator in the sky or the afterlife they are not being a bully, they are just being honest.

Ridiculous religious claims have enjoyed a long period of undeserved respect. That sad era in human history has ended thankfully and thanks to technology anyone who makes these ridiculous claims can expect the ever growing thinking world to give their superstitious delusions the respect they deserve.

Which is less than zero.

Welcome to the 21st century get used to it.
Reality

Newport, NH

#93 Jan 4, 2013
Agnostic wrote:
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I find satisfaction in watching Dawkins because when confronted he gets all blustery and emotional. Anyone who is as arrogant as he is deserves to be stuffed. A lot.
To me it looks more like he is just constantly taken aback by peoples breathtaking stupidity, arrogance and appalling hatred.

Anyone as smart and caring as professor Dawkins deserves to be held in high regard for his incredible patience and prolific determination to search for the truth and share it with everyone.
Reality

Newport, NH

#94 Jan 4, 2013
How do we know that Christians are delusional?
Read The Dawkins Delusion

United States

#95 Jan 5, 2013
Former Atheist Alister McGrath discusses Dawkins (part1)


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Christian Dr. Lennox Destroys Dawkins in debate-
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
^no doubt why Richard has since avoided debates
wow

Newport, NH

#96 Jan 5, 2013
Read The Dawkins Delusion wrote:
Former Atheist Alister McGrath discusses Dawkins (part1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ghIghLvttVUXX
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Christian Dr. Lennox Destroys Dawkins in debate-
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
^no doubt why Richard has since avoided debates
... breathtaking stupidity, arrogance and appalling Intellectual dishonesty.
religions rotting fruits

Newport, NH

#97 Jan 6, 2013
Heaven's Gate Documentary
REAL TruthReasonKnowl edge

Danvers, MA

#98 Jan 6, 2013
actually Q most everyone who listened to Lennox debating Dawkins says Lennox intellectually kicked delusional Dawkins' ass

You keep violating the rules here, try to stay ON topic Q!
the topic is: Truth Reason Knowledge

Scriptures on "Truth"
http://www.counseling4christians.com/Scriptur...
"I am the way and the TRUTH and the life."
- Christ, in John 14:6

Reasons To Believe
Where Science and Faith Converge
http://www.reasons.org/

Truth, Knowledge and the Reason for God: The Defense of the Rational Assurance of Christianity [Paperback]
In today's world there are countless scholarly attacks aimed at Christian truth. In this unique book Mike A. Robinson provides potent and compelling answers that will help you rationally defend the existence of God.
http://www.amazon.com/Truth-Knowledge-Reason-...

10 Bible Verses About Knowledge
http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/10-bi...
reality

Newport, NH

#99 Jan 6, 2013
REAL TruthReasonKnowledge wrote:
actually Q most everyone who listened to Lennox debating Dawkins says Lennox intellectually kicked delusional Dawkins' ass
You keep violating the rules here, try to stay ON topic Q!
the topic is: Truth Reason Knowledge
Scriptures on "Truth"
http://www.counseling4christians.com/Scriptur...
"I am the way and the TRUTH and the life."
- Christ, in John 14:6
Reasons To Believe
Where Science and Faith Converge
http://www.reasons.org/
Truth, Knowledge and the Reason for God: The Defense of the Rational Assurance of Christianity [Paperback]
In today's world there are countless scholarly attacks aimed at Christian truth. In this unique book Mike A. Robinson provides potent and compelling answers that will help you rationally defend the existence of God.
http://www.amazon.com/Truth-Knowledge-Reason-...
10 Bible Verses About Knowledge
http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/10-bi...
... Nothing but lies, failed logic and superstition. You are seemingly incapable of separating reality from fantasy, you are dangerously delusional and so frightened of reality that you choose hateful superstition over reason and accountability.

You need professional help comrade. I urge you to seek it before you end up in the next Jones town or heaven's gate. Or before you find that you have murdered for your dangerous delusions.
reality

Newport, NH

#100 Jan 6, 2013
Even a drunken comedian thinks more clearly than you.

Jim Jefferies - Religion
Truth reason knowledge

Newport, NH

#101 Jan 6, 2013
Michael Shermer: Why people believe weird things
http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/michael_sher...
A possible future

Newport, NH

#102 Jan 7, 2013
Indonesia Envisions More Religion in Schools
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/07/world/asia/... ?
By SARA SCHONHARDT
Published: January 6, 2013

"JAKARTA — Annisa Nurul Jannah, 11, was learning about how devices transmit heat, sound and electricity.“I like science because it teaches me a lot,” the sixth grader at Petamburan 04, a school in a working-class part of Jakarta, said about her favorite subject.“I’d be sad if it was removed from school.”

Millions of children in Indonesian elementary schools may no longer have separate science classes starting in June, the beginning of their next school year, if the government approves a curriculum overhaul that would merge science and social studies with other classes so more time can be devoted to religious education.

A draft of the proposal was posted online in November and December for public comment. The government is analyzing the feedback and will meet with a team of experts shortly to develop new lesson plans.

Ibnu Hamid, an Education Ministry spokesman, said feedback showed that people generally agreed with the curriculum changes but were worried that there would not be enough time to train teachers and prepare new books. The comments have not been released to the public, however, and some critics question whether they truly reflect broader opinion.

Officials who back the changes say that more religious instruction is needed because a lack of moral development has led to an increase in violence and vandalism among youths, and that could fuel social unrest and corruption in the future.

“Right now many students don’t have character, tolerance for others, empathy for others,” Musliar Kasim, the deputy minister of education, said in an interview in November. He proposed the changes in September.

He is part of a team of officials, academics and advisers from the office of Vice President Boediono working to streamline the curriculum in 2013.

Mr. Hamid said that the aim was to create a “balance between attitude, skills and knowledge.”

The draft curriculum released to the public in November was light on details. It did not outline how science and social studies would be taught once their dedicated classes were eliminated, or describe how religion and civics would contribute to character building.

Indonesia is a Muslim-majority country with a secular government that recognizes the rights of six different faiths, including Catholicism, Protestantism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Confucianism.

Religion is taught to students according to their own faiths, meaning that Muslim students are instructed in Islam, while Christian students study Christianity in separate classes. Reflecting the country’s demographics, most religious instruction is Islamic.

The Ministry of Religious Affairs, which advises the Education Ministry, is proposing that religious education be increased to four hours a week from two. It will remain a compulsory subject, along with mathematics, arts and crafts, physical education, Indonesian language and civics.

Just days after the ministry went public with the draft, parents, civil society organizations and members of the teachers’ federation began an online petition calling the changes unfounded.

“Instead of improving the curriculum, these changes dismantle the existing curriculum and do not guarantee better education in Indonesia,” states the petition, which has received more than 780 signatures.

The proposal to eliminate dedicated science and social studies classes has led to an outcry among parents and educators who worry that it could lead to a dumbing down of the country and make it less competitive." ...

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