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Boogie

Bennington, VT

#21 Jun 13, 2013
I Know More Than You wrote:
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And this is why I call you an idiot. It's not out of malice, it's just a simple fact.
Expected life of the system is minimum of 30 years and given your very simplistic initial assumptions on a system you specifically picked, results in a IRR of ~6% with a ROI of ~125%.
These results show you to be a liar and a fraud once again.
So you spend $20,000 and get 125% back over 30 years. That would be about $25,000 before taxes. But for the first years all you are getting back is your capital since at the end of the investment that is all gone. Your initial 6% includes return of capital does it not and therefor is not the return on investment.

And the worst part is you have to wait 162 months before you have your capital all back. Given that the average homeowner lives in a house for a much shorter period of time you may not ever get your money back unless you can convince the buyer of your home to pick up the solar panels from you as well.

And you have to rely on the owners of the project and their successors remaining good managers of your investment. What gurantees are you going to require to get that comfort?

Of course $20,000 invested in the stock market would return you around $140,000 after thirty years and you would still have your original $20,000. The average real estate investment would return somewhere around 500% or $100,000 over 30 years. Choose which investment you want.
I Know More Than You

Hancock, NH

#22 Jun 13, 2013
Fox News Idiot wrote:
So you spend $20,000 and get 125% back over 30 years. That would be about $25,000 before taxes. But for the first years all you are getting back is your capital since at the end of the investment that is all gone. Your initial 6% includes return of capital does it not and therefor is not the return on investment.
And the worst part is you have to wait 162 months before you have your capital all back. Given that the average homeowner lives in a house for a much shorter period of time you may not ever get your money back unless you can convince the buyer of your home to pick up the solar panels from you as well.
And you have to rely on the owners of the project and their successors remaining good managers of your investment. What gurantees are you going to require to get that comfort?
Of course $20,000 invested in the stock market would return you around $140,000 after thirty years and you would still have your original $20,000. The average real estate investment would return somewhere around 500% or $100,000 over 30 years. Choose which investment you want.
Glad to see you admit you were lying about the rate of return all this time. You are the one who said it was roughly equivalent to a savings account, not me. BTW, the best savings accounts are <1%.

I never said people should be investing in solar panels on their roofs rather than a 401K, IRA, etc. Yet another strawman.
Infowars News Wisdom Dude

Newton Center, MA

#23 Jun 13, 2013
EWE News Idiot wrote:
<quoted text>
I never said people should be investing in solar panels on their roofs rather than a 401K, IRA, etc. O-Baaa-aaa-maa!
-Ha ha ha!
Welcome to socialist redistributionalism, not for the elite who put Barry Soetoro in office but for EWE, and 'IKMTY' supports people being suckered into putting their hard-earned $$ where it'll be taken, and the economy and value of the once-lawful 'dollar' itself it visibly collapsing away now anyway

,,,

Government Sets Its Sights on Private Retirement Accounts:“Giant Effort to Redistribute the Wealth of America’s Older Citizens”
SHTFplan.com November 21, 2012
http://www.infowars.com/government-sets-its-s...
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How the Government Is Coming After Your IRA and 401(k) Plan
Robert Wenzel
economicpolicyjournal.com December 11, 2012
http://www.infowars.com/how-the-government-is...
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R.I.P. Retirement: 28% of Americans are Raiding Their 401k Plans
libertyblitzkrieg.com January 15, 2013

From the Washington Post:
More than one in four American workers with 401(k) and other retirement savings accounts use them to pay current expenses, new data show.
http://www.infowars.com/r-i-p-retirement-28-o...
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flashback 4.5 years, ewe was warned...

U.S. Gov and Obama wants your retirement fund (IRA, 401k, Pension)
Truth Pills Nov. 2008
http://truthpills.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/us...
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Democratic leaders in the U.S. House discuss confiscating 401(k)s, IRAs Nov. 2008
http://www.carolinajournal.com/articles/displ...

Obama budget to take aim at wealthy IRAs
The Hill April 6, 2013
http://www.infowars.com/obama-budget-to-take-...
I Know More Than You

Hancock, NH

#24 Jun 13, 2013
Village Idiot wrote:
-Ha ha ha!
Welcome to socialist redistributionalism, not for the elite who put Barry Soetoro in office but for EWE, and 'IKMTY' supports people being suckered into putting their hard-earned $$ where it'll be taken, and the economy and value of the once-lawful 'dollar' itself it visibly collapsing away now anyway
Mine's all in gold ingots in mu basement!
SHTFplan dot Com

Newton Center, MA

#25 Jun 13, 2013
try eating ingots, and when the sh't hits the fan ewe'll have to leave that house eventually to get food, or be forced out by the gangs since the cops will all be taking care of their own and not policing the town. Think '1984' meets 'Mad Max'
Besides, just as FDR made gold confiscatable in 1933 with the declaration of the 'Emergency' of 3/9/33 (never Undeclared) and the 'Banker's Holiday' to keep the sheep from getting their money out in gold or silver form, there's going to be another Banker's Holiday soon with Martial Law nationwide like we saw in Boston recently, when they can't slow the bleeding anymore and when The Fed and the 'Plunge Protection Team' etc. can't play the ruse anymore

oh and unless that highly hazardous dirty bomb in Vernon is shut down by then, no one's going to want to be in the area then anyhow

The Crisis Is Imminent:“When The Real Crash Comes It Will Be Worse Than the Great Depression”
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/the-cri...
^"As Peter Schiff notes, the destruction to life as we know it in America and the world is imminent. It’s going to be severe.

So much so that the government has been simulating the collapse of our financial system, the collapse of our society and the potential for widespread violence.

A collapse happened in 2008, but THE collapse is still ahead."
Scotty

Brattleboro, VT

#26 Jun 14, 2013
I Know More Than You wrote:
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Glad to see you admit you were lying about the rate of return all this time. You are the one who said it was roughly equivalent to a savings account, not me. BTW, the best savings accounts are <1%.
I never said people should be investing in solar panels on their roofs rather than a 401K, IRA, etc. Yet another strawman.
At 1% a savings account is a better place for your money because at least it is liquid. You said solar was a good investment. You have yet to explain why you think it is a good investment. Referring to other investments in explanation of why solar is a bad investment is not a straw an argument.
I Know More Than You

Hancock, NH

#27 Jun 14, 2013
Fox News Idiot wrote:
At 1% a savings account is a better place for your money because at least it is liquid. You said solar was a good investment. You have yet to explain why you think it is a good investment. Referring to other investments in explanation of why solar is a bad investment is not a straw an argument.
They you go changing the argument again. Previously, you said nothing about liquidity, it was all rate of return. Too bad for you that solar beats the pants off a savings account. For all your jabber about IRR, you don't seem to understand how to apply it.

For the right people, solar makes them money while producing low carbon power, therefore it's a good investment. Are there better and worse investments out there, yes. Why is that so hard for you to wrap your mind around the facts. As I said before, I'd wager that most people who put solar on their home aren't worried if solar is beating the stock market.

Why don't you work on explaining some of your other lies instead constantly changing your argument?
Scott

Brattleboro, VT

#28 Jun 15, 2013
I Know More Than You wrote:
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They you go changing the argument again. Previously, you said nothing about liquidity, it was all rate of return. Too bad for you that solar beats the pants off a savings account. For all your jabber about IRR, you don't seem to understand how to apply it.
For the right people, solar makes them money while producing low carbon power, therefore it's a good investment. Are there better and worse investments out there, yes. Why is that so hard for you to wrap your mind around the facts. As I said before, I'd wager that most people who put solar on their home aren't worried if solar is beating the stock market.
Why don't you work on explaining some of your other lies instead constantly changing your argument?
When talking about an investment liquidity is always a factor. No one who knows anything about fiscal analysis has to be told that. You mentioned low interest in bank accounts as if it was some sort of justification for sticking your money in solar. Thus you mentioned it and I pointed out it was more liquid. That is not changing the argument.

I'd wager that they, like you, couldn't figure out if it was a good investment. It is certainly represented as being a good investment on the web sites selling the systems. A little bit of fraud sucking in naïve people like you.

You still haven't said why you think solar is a "good" investment?
I Know More Than You

Concord, NH

#29 Jun 15, 2013
Fox News Idiot wrote:
When talking about an investment liquidity is always a factor. No one who knows anything about fiscal analysis has to be told that. You mentioned low interest in bank accounts as if it was some sort of justification for sticking your money in solar. Thus you mentioned it and I pointed out it was more liquid. That is not changing the argument.
I'd wager that they, like you, couldn't figure out if it was a good investment. It is certainly represented as being a good investment on the web sites selling the systems. A little bit of fraud sucking in naïve people like you.
You still haven't said why you think solar is a "good" investment?
Ever notice how you never actually respond to my posts where I answer your endless stream of ever changing questions while never actually addressing all of your previous lies that I caught?

Guess it's hard to see with your head so far up your ass.
Scotty

Brattleboro, VT

#30 Jun 16, 2013
I Know More Than You wrote:
<quoted text>
Ever notice how you never actually respond to my posts where I answer your endless stream of ever changing questions while never actually addressing all of your previous lies that I caught?
Guess it's hard to see with your head so far up your ass.
Hahaha! you not only don't answer anyones responses you usually try to twist the whole discussion. if you think you do answer me this: do you know how to do financial analysis?

I answer you. You just don't like my answers because I don't play your game.
Nuclear-News dot Net

Newton Center, MA

#31 Jun 17, 2013
I Am A Nasty Ewe wrote:
<quoted text>
nyaa nyaa nya nyaa nyaa
I know you are but what am I?
I know you are but what am I?
Guess it's hard to see with your head so far up your ass.
-well that's one way to prevent oneself from being anal-raped by a twisted 'reach arounder' like ewe!
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/brattleboro-v...
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Energy Report Skips Nuclear Phase Out JapanTimes.co.jp/news/2013/06/ 15/business/energy-report-skip s-nuclear-phase-out/#.Ubz7bBxp Fvl
VY To Be SHUT DOWN by PSB

Newton Center, MA

#32 Jun 17, 2013
Energy Report Skips Nuclear Phase Out http://JapanTimes.co.jp/news/2013/06/15/busin...

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Ron Paul on Obama’s Syria WMD Claim
Former Congressman Ron Paul breaks down the lies over Syria.
http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-on-obamas-sy...

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Arrest Obama Under NDAA For Supporting Terrorists in Syria
(the alleged) President has violated section 1021 of act he signed into law
http://www.infowars.com/detain-obama-under-nd...
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Egyptian politicians caught in on-air live mic,‘Our war is with America and Israel’ not Ethiopia
http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/egyptian-pol...
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Multiplying scandals to hide the one scandal that could sink Obama
http://www.infowars.com/multiplying-scandals-...
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14-year-old at the center of “NRA T-Shirt Controversy” now facing possibility of 1 year in jail
http://www.infowars.com/14-year-old-at-the-ce...
^Libscum have taken over the 'justice' system
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Seahawks Coach Peppered 4-Star General With 9/11 ‘Conspiracy’ Questions
http://www.infowars.com/seahawks-coach-pepper...
(cuz some things are way more important than f*ing sports)

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