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Progessives: Thoughtcrime Worse Than Murder

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Mr Burns

Rutland, VT

#1 Apr 25, 2014
For Progressives,“Thoughtcrime” is Worse than Mass Murder
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Doublethink

Brattleboro, VT

#2 Apr 26, 2014
"...for someone to even recognize–let alone mention–any contradiction within the context of the Party line was akin to blasphemy, and could subject that someone to possible disciplinary action and to the instant social disapproval of fellow Party Members."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink

"First, it must be admitted that legally, Bundy doesn’t have a leg to stand on."

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/04...

Hinderaker is a conservative American lawyer, as well as a fellow at the Claremont Institute. He is a 1971 graduate of Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire, and received a Juris Doctor (J.D.) from Harvard Law School in 1974. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hinderaker#...

Fox News' Greta Von Susteren says "LET ME MAKE THIS PLAIN: I CONDEMN WHAT CLIVEN BUNDY SAID ABOUT AFRICAN AMERICANS"

http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2014/04/2...

The full clip ( http://bambuser.com/v/4549915 ) also has the comment
about taking guns away from American citizens (Anti-2nd Amendment); citizens whose job it is to carry and use guns.

It also edited out "clogged the freeway off" (interfering with interstate commerce)which can get someone up to 20 years in jail.

Some hero...

The Nevada Constitution Article 1 Sec. 2 states Paramount Allegiance is to the U.S Federal Government in all its powers.

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/const/nvconst.html

The Irony of Cliven Bundy's Unconstitutional Stand
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2...

Cliven Bundy is a seditious liar, not a patriot.
http://americablog.com/2014/04/cliven-bundy-s...
9th and 10th Amendments

Rutland, VT

#3 Apr 26, 2014
"The Nevada Constitution Article 1 Sec. 2 states Paramount Allegiance is to the U.S Federal Government in all its powers."
-there is no period right after 'powers'! And there's a sentence preceding that one which is omitted, which states:
"All political power is inherent in the people. Government is instituted for the protection, security and benefit of the people; and they have the right to alter or reform the same whenever the public good may require it." (*ALL* political power is inherent in the people...)
and preceding that one is this concept that comes from the Declaration of Independence:
" Inalienable rights.  
All men are by Nature free and equal and have certain inalienable rights among which are those of enjoying and defending life and liberty; Acquiring, Possessing and Protecting *PROPERTY* and pursuing and obtaining safety and happiness"

-the feds had NO legal authorization to steal and destroy Mr. Bundy's property, his cattle and installations on that land such as his water systems for the cattle installed by his parents and grandparents starting in the late 1800s, before there was even the State of Nevada- which BTW the feds now claim to own 90% of!

BLM agents left a slew of property damages in their wake, including holes in water tanks, wrecked water lines and destroyed fences.
- http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/...

This is Why The BLM Wants Cliven Bundy's Ranch Gone
www.youtube.com/watch...
(the South was right, and Lincoln was wrong)
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(*former NJ Superior Court...)
Judge Andrew Napolitano* described how the Nevada rancher, Cliven Bundy, has claimed the land on which he was grazing his cattle belonged to the state, not the federal government, and that’s why he chose not to pay federal grazing fees. video -
www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/18/judge-nap...
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Federal Judge: BLM Engaged In A Criminal Conspiracy Against Ranchers
In his opinion of United States v. Estate of Hage, U.S. District Court Judge Robert C. Jones reveals that after late Nevada rancher E. Wayne Hage indicated on his 1993 grazing permit renewal that by signing the permit, he was not surrendering his family’s long-standing water and forage rights on the land, the BLM not only rejected the permit but also conspired for decades to both deny his family’s property rights and to destroy their cattle business.
www.infowars.com/federal-judge-blm-engaged-in...
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BLM Action in Nevada is Unconstitutional, Here’s Why
A direct violation of Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution
Madison made if perfectly clear in Federalist Paper 45:“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined…
www.infowars.com/blm-action-in-nevada-is-unco...
The clause, known as the Enclave Clause, authorizes Congress to purchase, own and control land in a state under specific and limited conditions, namely “for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings,” and not, as the feds now insist, to protect an endangered tortoise.
**->The Founders were opposed to providing a centralized federal government with unlimited authority to purchase and, as is routinely the case today, seize state and private land. <--**
only sheeple beLIEve msm

Rutland, VT

#4 Apr 26, 2014
Black Soldiers: Cliven Bundy Is Not Racist
“Who the heck are we to determine another man’s perspective on the world around him?!”
http://www.infowars.com/black-marines-cliven-...
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Unedited Video Shows Bundy Making Pro-Black, Pro-Mexican Comments
Media censors footage to spin remarks as racist
http://www.infowars.com/unedited-video-shows-...
Bleat On

Brattleboro, VT

#5 Apr 27, 2014
"only sheeple beLIEve msm", huh?

If Jones' audience is as large as it's been claimed, that make Infowars (3.3 million visitors*) Mainstream Media.

* http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/infowars.com
* http://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/infow...

Please, continue bleating.
Larry

Rochester, VT

#6 Apr 27, 2014
This whole Bundy thing could have been avoided.

But first I must ask this question. WHY did the BLM send in armed men with weapons drawn, attack dogs, armored personnel carriers, helicopters, etc JUST TO COLLECT A BILL????

Bundy lost his arguments 3 times in court. He can "not recognize" the Federal ownership of the land all day. He does not own the land.

So it bothers me as to just WHY didn't the BLM merely place a lien on the property? Why was there a sudden need to go there with such force and arrest the cattle?

Harry Reid is not the cleanest of Senators. His son Rory was involved in this as part of his appointment to the BLM. They failed in their attempt to take the land by force, and Reid called American citizens "the real terrorists". There HAS to be money involved for Harry Reid to get this angry at his own constituents.
Larry

Rochester, VT

#7 Apr 27, 2014
No idea why it double posted.
Thought Criminal

Rutland, VT

#8 Apr 28, 2014
I Repeat Bleats of MSM wrote:
"only sheeple beLIEve msm", huh?
If Jones' audience is as large as it's been claimed, that make Infowars (3.3 million visitors*) Mainstream Media.
* http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/infowars.com
* http://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/infow...
Please, continue correcting my bullsh't.
A news outlet being 'mainstream' or not is not just about the number of viewers/listeners! There is no precise way to determine any number for listeners to Alex Jones like there is for buyers of the dinosaur newspapers subscriptions/sales and the cable teevee watchers of liarscum like MSNBC and CNN etc.., but we do know that the biggest liars/propAgenda msm have been Losing viewers bigtime and MSNBC especially has very few watchers of Mr. Maddow and Chris Matthews and they wouldn't be alive anymore if it wasn't for them being bailed out by Obama and the fact that they have huge corporate backers behind them like GE, and the online lib liars have George Soros $$. Piers Morgan got so hated that CNN had to cancel his show, but the Establishment NEEDS BS/propAgenda artists to shill for them and create Weapons of Mass Distraction from the Real news people Need to know.
It's well known now that Media Matters For America (linked by ewe here recently) is basically controlled from the White House!
http://www.google.com/#q=media+matters+%22hea... +
Alex didn't get any bailout $$ from sheeple taxpayers nor is he backed by big $$ Illuminati muthaf-ers and certainly not the govt. since he exposes the corruption with NO corporate/industry OR left-right bias!
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Bailout Funds Went To MSNBC Via General Electric
Washington Post, Dec 2010
http://www.prisonplanet.com/bailout-funds-wen...
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MSNBC Rewarded For Obama Support With GE Bailout Money
http://wasteofmyoxygen.wordpress.com/2008/11/...
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MSM Collapsing: NY Times Now “Irrelevant,” According to its Own Writers
Opinion pieces have no impact on public discourse as statist media sinks
Feb 2014
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Why Is The Mainstream Media Ignoring The Rabid Anti-Semitism In The New Ukraine Government?
http://www.infowars.com/why-is-the-mainstream...
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MSM Admits Infowars Right About Fukushima Radiation Hitting West Coast

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MSM Attacks Infowars For Defending Nevada Rancher
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Thought Criminal

Rutland, VT

#9 Apr 28, 2014
Video: Russell Brand Blasts MSM Lies in Mindblowing Interview
Alex contacted Brand and had a chance to conduct an in depth interview with the iconic actor and comedian. The interview covers everything from the expanding conflict in Syria, to the corporate media’s attempt to dumb down the public.
http://www.infowars.com/video-russell-brand-t...
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Desperate MSM Moves to Kill Off Article Comments
New wave of online censorship as establishment panics about losing ability to dictate reality
http://www.infowars.com/desperate-msm-moves-t...
Desperate to cling onto their ability to dictate reality, the crumbling mainstream media is beginning to kill off article comment sections in a cynical bid to silence dissenting voices.
[this is also why the Bratt Reformer disassociated itself with running Topix Bratt a couple years ago- cuz some like myself were exposing the Reformer's LIES and phony/yellow journalism]
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25 Facts That The Mainstream Media Doesn’t Really Want To Talk About Right Now
For decades, the mainstream media in the United States was accustomed to being able to tell the American people what to think.
Unfortunately for them, a whole lot of Americans are starting to break free from that paradigm and think for themselves.
http://www.infowars.com/25-facts-that-the-mai...
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7 Things About The Mainstream Media That They Do Not Want You To Know
http://www.infowars.com/7-things-about-the-ma...
Have you ever wondered who controls the mainstream media? And of course the mainstream media desperately does not want you to look at “the man behind the curtain”. They just want you to stay plugged into the “programming” that they are feeding you without asking any questions.
see article for details on 1-7...
#1 The Mainstream Media Has Very Deep Ties To The Establishment
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#2 The Mainstream Media Gets Things Wrong Very Frequently
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#3 The American Public Does Not Consider The Media To Be Very Trustworthy
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#4 The Mainstream Media And The Politicians That They Worship Hate The Fact That They Cannot Control Internet News Sites
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#5 The Mainstream Media Is Extremely Liberal #6 Six Mammoth Media Corporations Produce About 90 Percent Of The Media That Americans Consume
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#7 The American People Are Absolutely Addicted To The Mainstream Media (but not so much its 'news')
According to a 2010 LA Times report, young people spend on average 53 hours a week watching TV, playing video games, and sitting at the computer.
Facebook users spend about 15 hours a month on the social networking site.
People are walking – and driving – blindly while texting, sometimes walking into fountains and even falling off cliffs.
Old McDonald

Brattleboro, VT

#10 Apr 28, 2014
Thought Criminal wrote:
bleat bleat
I tried reading your post but all I could see was

BaaaaBaaaBaaaBaaa
WhatPartOf Art1Sec8 DontU

Rutland, VT

#11 Apr 28, 2014
Larry wrote:
This whole Bundy thing could have been avoided.
But first I must ask this question. WHY did the BLM send in armed men with weapons drawn, attack dogs, armored personnel carriers, helicopters, etc JUST TO COLLECT A BILL????
Bundy lost his arguments 3 times in court. He can "not recognize" the Federal ownership of the land all day. He does not own the land.
So it bothers me as to just WHY didn't the BLM merely place a lien on the property? Why was there a sudden need to go there with such force and arrest the cattle?
Harry Reid is not the cleanest of Senators. His son Rory was involved in this as part of his appointment to the BLM. They failed in their attempt to take the land by force, and Reid called American citizens "the real terrorists". There HAS to be money involved for Harry Reid to get this angry at his own constituents.
-this shows the difference between power and authority
when the basturds have no authority in the law to do what they want they just do it anyway and act like they do, they exercise the power under the Color Of Law, like during that Saturday standoff a couple weeks ago when the armed BLM goons Claimed they had a court order and threatened to shoot peaceful protesters there
The court that Should have decided on who owns the land is the State one, NOT the federal one, as Judge Nap and others pointed out the conflicts of interest and wrongfulness of the federal govt. claiming sole authority over so much land when the Constitution doesn't give the U.S. govt. the authority to own lots of State land in the first place!
see Article One section 8, especially the final 17th clause which says that except for military bases and other 'needful buildings' like post offices and post roads etc., the federal govt. has NO jurisdiction within the States and it is actually LIMITED to within its own 'seat of government' area (Washington DC)!!!
So they CANNOT put a lawful Lien on his property, not without a true lawful court order and they can't get that cuz they had no real authority to collect the land grazing fees to begin with!
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Ownership of Federal Land: Answers Suggested by the Bundy Standoff
Tenth Amendment Center

http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2014/04/25/ow...
The text of the Constitution grants the federal government no plenary power to hold land, only to dispose. A general power to hold is just not in there.
The Enclave Clause was sold to the ratifying public on the basis that enclaves would be relatively small. Holding massive tracts of undeveloped land (such as in Yosemite National Park, nearly 750,000 acres) as enclaves is not what the Founders had in mind.
Constitution comprehender

Rutland, VT

#12 Apr 28, 2014
In true Judge Jeanine form, she connected all the dots regarding the corruption of Harry Reid and how that factored into the raid of the Bundy Ranch by the Obama Bureau of Land Management.
http://www.tpnn.com/2014/04/27/judge-jeanine-...
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Judge Jeanine Links Nevada Land Grab to Solar Energy Plant
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/04/27/judge-je...
^"The BLM deletes the document that was titled: Cattle Trespass Impacts Solar Development. A little too incriminating, don't you think?"
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Bundy's land happens to be right where they (Harry Reid's son and the ChiComs etc.) need to have a 'mitigation zone' between their $5 Billion solar project so that the poor endangered* tortoises can be 'protected' from the development of the project, so he and his land and cattle etc. had to go so the corrupt basturds could make $$ and screw Americans all the more.
*-the tortoises were never endangered by Bundy's cattle grazing but in fact survived from all the water systems put in over many decades by the Bundys. The critters are endangered in the first place mainly due to the U.S. govt./military nuke bomb testing in that area of the country during the 40s -50s!
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'Harry's war'
David Kupelian on what's really behind the targeting of Cliven Bundy http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/harrys-war/
^"By the way, not that it really matters that much, but regarding Bundy’s supposedly racist comments? Watch the video of what he said in context, and then watch the edited video below it and see what the New York Times and Media Matters left out.

Could it be that, deep down in their conniving, progressive brains, leftists like Reid kind of want to provoke a war with some rightwing “domestic terrorists”?

I hope – I pray – restraint will win out, and the situation resolve peacefully, and with finality.

If the government wants to slap a lien on Bundy’s property for the grazing fees it says he owes, so be it. But this is not about the million dollars the government claims Bundy owes, because the government spends that much every nine seconds. It’s not about the rule of law, because Reid helps lead the most lawless government in U.S. history. It’s about intimidation, about coercion, about bullying and getting your way, and about making an example out of Cliven Bundy, his wife and their 14 children.

Make no mistake: If there’s to be a confrontation, it will be because Harry Reid wants a confrontation. They don’t call him “Dirty Harry” for nothing.

OK Harry, we get the message. It’s important for even the hated Republicans, whom you revile daily, to join in your “united front” against the rancher in your state who is disputing his grazing fees on constitutional grounds. Ever hear of civil disobedience? It’s how the Civil Rights Movement of the ‘60s was won."
(read the whole excellent article at above link)
AlanKeyes BenCarson 2016

Rutland, VT

#13 Apr 29, 2014
only sheeple beLIEve msm wrote:
Black Soldiers: Cliven Bundy Is Not Racist
“Who the heck are we to determine another man’s perspective on the world around him?!”
http://www.infowars.com/black-marines-cliven-...
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Unedited Video Shows Bundy Making Pro-Black, Pro-Mexican Comments
Media censors footage to spin remarks as racist
http://www.infowars.com/unedited-video-shows-...
so we see that what Bundy said was no different than what some famous black political speakers have also said about blacks and how the Welfare Sate keeps them down, like Star Parker and Thomas Sowell, Dr. Ben Carson, Alan Keyes, Walter Williams, and other conservatives "of color"etc.

Star Parker -http://townhall.com/columnist s/starparker/2009/02/09/back_o n_uncle_sams_plantation/page/f ull
^"I said in that book that indeed there are two Americas. A poor America on socialism and a wealthy America on capitalism."
"...socialism seems to be the element of our new young president. And maybe even more troubling, our corporate executives seem happy to move onto the plantation."

'Clive Bundy is the Racist? No Way!'
lesfemmes-thetruth.blogspot.com/2014/04/clive...
"Well, duh! Johnson's Great Society took the black family, drove dads out of the home, rounded up and herded blacks into federal projects, and started giving out their meager goodies to convince them to stay on the Democrats' plantation and always vote for their white, elitist massahs."

"Speaking of Alan Keyes, he is defending Clive Bundy.“He wasn’t talking so much about black folks, but about the harm and damage that the leftist socialism has done to blacks,” Right on, Alan!"
"Could Bundy have said this in a less hot-button way? Sure. But he's not a sycophantic politician or a talking head with finger in the wind weighing every word to see how it will fly on the evening news."
AlanKeyes BenCarson 2016

Rutland, VT

#14 Apr 29, 2014
2LoveTruthIs ThoughtCrime

Rutland, VT

#15 May 3, 2014
Bunkerville Residents Express Support for Cliven Bundy at Town Hall Meeting
Media fails to convince Bunkerville residents Bundy is a criminal
FOX news video there->
www.infowars.com/bunkerville-residents-expres...
Residents of Bunkerville, Nevada, gathered for a town hall meeting yesterday where many expressed strong support for embattled cattle rancher Cliven Bundy and the militia groups that rallied in his defense.
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Lefties Target Christian “Homophobes” in NBA
Now that the NBA has handed the progressive left a victory and made it a crime for team owners to hold politically incorrect opinions on race, the next phase of the purge can begin – excluding and exiling Christians for opposing gay marriage.
www.infowars.com/lefties-target-christian-hom...
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Chris Hayes Shocked and Dismayed People Said Sterling Was a Democrat
www.truthrevolt.org/news/chris-hayes-shocked-...
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Holder’s Latest Scandal: DOJ Now Pressuring Banks to Refuse Service to Gun Stores
Operation Choke Point also targets other legal businesses for political reasons
www.infowars.com/holders-latest-scandal-doj-n...

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