Dummerston looking into solar power

May 6, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brattleboro Reformer

Selectboard members this week authorized the Dummerston Energy Committee to research the idea of partnering with a private company to construct a solar array that eventually would be owned by the town.

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I Know More Than You

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Scotty the Git wrote:
Oil subsidies were created to produce more and cheaper oil and energy and they work. Solar and wind subsidies only produce ugly facilities and more expensive energy. In other words they don't work. If the oil subsidies don't work get rid of them too.
Looks like someone is too stupid to Google how solar panel prices have fell. Not surprising.

BTW, I really think the "solar = ugly" is a winning argument, I'd stick with it!
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Wasted in VT wrote:
That's all fine and wonderful except for one minor problem,“25 by 25” much less 90% won't work without destroying the landscape.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner!

Unfortunately for him, he was playing "Am I A Moron?"
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Looks like someone is too stupid to Google how solar panel prices have fell. Not surprising.
BTW, I really think the "solar = ugly" is a winning argument, I'd stick with it!
It is a winning argument. The left wing science people only see it when it is something like putting a house or a business in a field. But solar panels in a field are very very ugly. Except to you left wing science people.
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"But solar panels in a field are very very ugly."
-not Nearly as ugly as uranium mining pits, deserted deteriorating old ghost towns like Pripyat (Chernobyl site) and Fukushima, or this-
http://www.google.com/search...
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Dr John Gofman wrote:
"But solar panels in a field are very very ugly."
-not Nearly as ugly as uranium mining pits, deserted deteriorating old ghost towns like Pripyat (Chernobyl site) and Fukushima, or this-
http://www.google.com/search...
Why does one ugly thing make another ugly thing ok?
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MarkieMark aka Fox News Idiot wrote:
Why does one ugly thing make another ugly thing ok?
What is your ascetically pleasing plan for electric power generation?
WTFU - Please B4Its2Late

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uhm...one word-DEATHS
as in one million+ deaths thanks to Chernobyl alone
and over half of Fukushima kids and others in Japan having thyroid problems (stage 1 cancer)
both meltdown scenarios have caused deaths FAR from the nuke sites

Besides, solar panels and wind turbines ain't really ugly, especially compared to uranium mining pits and deformed and dying people.

The world is running out of uranium and we can only have so many hydro plants on rivers, but the sun keeps shining and winds keep blowing

Fukushima Decommissioning May Exceed $1 Trillion
http://fukushima-diary.com/2013/05/former-fuk...
(likely more than that even, and that's IF it really can be decommissioned)
Power for the people

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What is your ascetically pleasing plan for electric power generation?
. Lets begin by accepting that Industrial wind and solar do not make sense for Vermont's topography and further admit that meteorological conditions do not support large scale but might make sense at the production and consumption site. A solid example of this is Cersosimo Lumber's new biomass plant and home solar hot water. I think that most people now understand that one size does not fit all. Water is scarce in the West but abundant in the North East (so are trees). Coal is abundant in South East, Oil in the South West......We should become regionalized, capitalizing on each region's natural resources. Then we have Nationally, nuclear being the go to base load power that balances fossil fuel emissions. Strategic base load nuclear with regionalized production based on resources. Additionally we cannot afford to ignore the truth that China is imploding and is an environmental disaster not only on their soil but has very real consequences for the world at large.
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Power for the people wrote:
<quoted text>. Lets begin by accepting that Industrial wind and solar do not make sense for Vermont's topography and further admit that meteorological conditions do not support large scale but might make sense at the production and consumption site. A solid example of this is Cersosimo Lumber's new biomass plant and home solar hot water. I think that most people now understand that one size does not fit all. Water is scarce in the West but abundant in the North East (so are trees). Coal is abundant in South East, Oil in the South West......We should become regionalized, capitalizing on each region's natural resources. Then we have Nationally, nuclear being the go to base load power that balances fossil fuel emissions. Strategic base load nuclear with regionalized production based on resources. Additionally we cannot afford to ignore the truth that China is imploding and is an environmental disaster not only on their soil but has very real consequences for the world at large.
Thanks for not answering the question.
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What is your ascetically pleasing plan for electric power generation?
Not solar panels in ag fields or wind towers on the ridge lines of the Vermont mountains. How about natural gas, nuclear power (how much nuclear energy could we have generated with the $50 billion we spent on alternative energy subsidies), clean stack coal, oil sands,biomass in a cogen setting...any other suggestions besides putting ten acres of solar panels in a field?
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Thanks for not answering the question.
when an if VT reaches its goal of 90% renewables, we will need three times the electricity that we consume today.
Show and tell

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Low carbon, centralized, base load power prevents energy sprawl like we are currently experiencing in VT. What's going to power all those future electric automobiles?
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Not solar panels in ag fields or wind towers on the ridge lines of the Vermont mountains. How about natural gas, nuclear power (how much nuclear energy could we have generated with the $50 billion we spent on alternative energy subsidies), clean stack coal, oil sands,biomass in a cogen setting...any other suggestions besides putting ten acres of solar panels in a field?
Interesting definition of what "ascetically pleasing" is.
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Interesting definition of what "ascetically pleasing" is.
You are a ditz. But most 16 year olds are.
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"any other suggestions besides putting ten acres of solar panels in a field?"
-Yeah, putting em on roofs
Shopping plaza/mall parking lots can be covered with panels which makes use of space otherwise just for parking
Even f*ing nuketards are taking advantage of solar, like the one in the house right near BUHS with the solar roof and the VY sign out front
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"How about natural gas, nuclear power (how much nuclear energy could we have generated with the $50 billion we spent on alternative energy subsidies),"
-Enough to help cause another Fuktupshita Japan or two here in the U.S..
Another f*ing great idea is we attach pipes to natural gasbags like ewe
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Here it is 2013 and Vermont still relies on nuclear power as part of its energy portfolio. Why do you think NH Nuclear has been added on even while VT Yankee has been named a grid stabilizing plant? Could it be because they both are domestic, dependable, affordable, safe, centralized, low carbon, base load power? The key words that you are missing in your posts are diverse portfolio energy mix. Solar, biomass and wind are not replacement power, they are in addition to hydro, fossil fuels and nuclear. All that Vermonters are asking is that development of these supplemental sources be to scale & in keeping with the spirit / intent of environmental law Act 250. I think the question everyone should be asking is why Montpelier has eliminated the municipal / town voice, why did they preempt it?
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RadiationMegaCancergate wrote:
"any other suggestions besides putting ten acres of solar panels in a field?"
-Yeah, putting em on roofs
Shopping plaza/mall parking lots can be covered with panels which makes use of space otherwise just for parking
Even f*ing nuketards are taking advantage of solar, like the one in the house right near BUHS with the solar roof and the VY sign out front
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"How about natural gas, nuclear power (how much nuclear energy could we have generated with the $50 billion we spent on alternative energy subsidies),"
-Enough to help cause another Fuktupshita Japan or two here in the U.S..
Another f*ing great idea is we attach pipes to natural gasbags like ewe
Nothing wrong with putting solar on roofs. But we still need to eliminate the tax payer rip off subsidies.

Vermont is backing off solar as they have changed the SPEED feed in program so that only rich people will want to participate.
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MarkieMark aka Fox News Idiot wrote:
Vermont is backing off solar as they have changed the SPEED feed in program so that only rich people will want to participate.
What's your definition of "rich" and explain how changes to SPEED affect the average solar homeowner.

Just something else I'll be waiting for...
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What's your definition of "rich" and explain how changes to SPEED affect the average solar homeowner.
Just something else I'll be waiting for...
Vermont's definition of rich: Anyone who pays income tax.

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