Scouring the Earth for wood energy.

Scouring the Earth for wood energy.

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Teak

Essex Junction, VT

#1 Apr 5, 2013
Wood

The fuel of the future

http://www.economist.com/news/business/215757...

Environmental lunacy in Europe;will Vermont be a leader in lunacy too?
Teak

Essex Junction, VT

#2 Apr 5, 2013
Old images record landscape
change through time
http://www.geosociety.org/gsatoday/archive/15...

For millennia, people have altered
the landscapes on which they are born,
live, and die. Such alteration began
with clearance of valleys and slopes for
agriculture at least 9000 years ago and
was soon followed by the construction
of roads, buildings, and cities (Hooke,
2000). Today, people are the most....

Look at these photographs of treeless Vermont!
Teak

Essex Junction, VT

#5 Apr 5, 2013
Do Vermonter's really want biomass??
Joe Shlabotnik

White River Junction, VT

#6 Apr 5, 2013
Teak wrote:
Do Vermonter's really want biomass??
Some do not want biomass, some don't want wind,some don't want nuclear,some don't want solar,some don't want oil,some don't want coal,some do't want all of the above.
I suppose we should have nothing.
Teak

Essex Junction, VT

#7 Apr 5, 2013
Joe Shlabotnik wrote:
<quoted text>
Some do not want biomass, some don't want wind,some don't want nuclear,some don't want solar,some don't want oil,some don't want coal,some do't want all of the above.
I suppose we should have nothing.
They want it all Joe, just not in their own backyards. In the end and under the radar, even Shumlin and GMP contracted with Seabrook. Domestic, centralized, low carbon baseload energy like Seabrook makes sense to me: but then I am an environmentalist after all. I think we should leave wood burning to Vermont homeowners trying to make ends meet during heating season.
Smart Nukes Is No Nukes

United States

#8 Apr 5, 2013
Like the bumper sticka says:'Don't Like Logging? Try Wiping Your Ass With Plastic'

'Teak' you need to know that although that magazine you link to may have Some good points some times, it's a f**ing NWO globalist scumbag-owned propAgenda publication-

'Rothschild and CIA Publications Attack “Constitution-worshipers”'
The editors of the Economist have declared constitutionalists mentally ill.
http://www.infowars.com/rothschild-and-cia-pu...
^"The Economist argument against the Constitution is the same one used by liberal academics."

If you go to Woodstock Vt and take a tour of the old home owned by famous conservationist John Marsh as I did several years ago, the US Park Ranger explains how Vermont used to have HUGE super-wide White Pine trees but the G-d Brits took them a 1/4 millenium ago and they never grew back.

We've learned the hard way that logging needs to be done Smart just as coal burning needs to be done Smart with the latest scrubber stacks- eventually Soon we'll run out of Both coal AND uranium anyway. We need more hydroelectric plants and solar and biomass/trash-to-energy etc. to make up for the loss of the Nukes- which must and Will be phased out hopefully before their radiation phases US out.

meanwhile we have other sht to worry about-
Oh sh't!-
http://www.infowars.com/concerned-officials-w...

OH TRIPLE SH'T!!!
http://www.infowars.com/scientists-urge-obama...
Joe Shlabotnik

Claremont, NH

#9 Apr 5, 2013
Personally, I'm opposed to hydro due to the damaging effects on recreational fishing, of which I am fond of, or should I say "of fond".
http://www.fieldandstream.com/hydro-fish-kill...
Schmo Blosnotnick

United States

#10 Apr 5, 2013
let's see
Hydro plants like Vernon's have fish ladders but you claim it hurts some fish

Wind turbines kill a few birds and some bats which are dying of that fungus disease anyway which the turbines have nothing to do with

Solar panels like wind turbines and hydro turbines all have a finite life and then have to be expen$ively cooled for many years and then stored underground in super expen$ive special protected sealed places for thousands of years!
Oh wait- that's only true for the nuclear waste sh't, not those three things.

Nuclear energy plants have had no effect on aquatic life that people eat nor on people nor is super expen$ive in costs to us, our health or the planet.
Oh wait...
http://rense.com/Datapages/radiationdat.htm
http://rense.com/Datapages/japanquakedat.htm
Ask the doctor if cancer is right for ewe
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-...
Actually

Roxbury, VT

#11 Apr 6, 2013
Schmo Blosnotnick wrote:
let's see
Hydro plants like Vernon's have fish ladders but you claim it hurts some fish
Wind turbines kill a few birds and some bats which are dying of that fungus disease anyway which the turbines have nothing to do with
Solar panels like wind turbines and hydro turbines all have a finite life and then have to be expen$ively cooled for many years and then stored underground in super expen$ive special protected sealed places for thousands of years!
Oh wait- that's only true for the nuclear waste sh't, not those three things.
Nuclear energy plants have had no effect on aquatic life that people eat nor on people nor is super expen$ive in costs to us, our health or the planet.
Oh wait...
http://rense.com/Datapages/radiationdat.htm
http://rense.com/Datapages/japanquakedat.htm
Ask the doctor if cancer is right for ewe
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-...
While I'm not fundamentally opposed to hydro, Joe is correct. Hydro builds up a thick bed of silt behind the dam killing off aquatic plant life (food) and ruining river bottoms for breeding. Dams flood marshes and wet soils that remove pollutants from the river and prevent runoff from dumping poisons like phosphorus into it. The temprature behind the dam is higher than normal and the dam prevents wildlife from accessing the river. Dams are harmful, but the return is far greater than with intermittent industrial wind and the rest of Shumlin's energy sprawl plans.
Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

#12 Apr 6, 2013
Why don't we go back to the stone age!

I don't dams because they gouge the rate payers with phony green priced electricity, as with wind...

Energy only the rich can afford...
Actually

Roxbury, VT

#13 Apr 6, 2013
Mike Mulligan wrote:
Why don't we go back to the stone age!
I don't dams because they gouge the rate payers with phony green priced electricity, as with wind...
Energy only the rich can afford...
. Coal is cheap and dirty, just how you like it.
Cannabis Cancer Cure

Williston, VT

#16 Apr 7, 2013
Cannabis plants remove radiation from soil?
What exactly did ewe smoke to come up with that crapola?
Anyone with a properly working brain knows that the active ingredient in 'pot' is very Good for the brain (just not EWE'r brain dude!)
Active Ingredient in Marijuana Kills Brain Cancer Cells
ABCnews.go.com/Health/Healthday/story...

also google Curcumin and the Sour Sop plant to read about their documented cancer fighting abilities.

So the God-created cannabis/'pot' can be used to help cure people of the cancers caused by the radiation from the God-damned nuke plants going Ka-Blooey like the three GE Mark I reactors did in Japan, and the Mark I in Vernon Vermont which is still a ticking Dirty Bomb
---

vid- All about Cannabis/hemp Oil being a cure for cancer and much more. It shows how to make hemp oil, which people have put on their skin cancer and cured it
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
^So we see that it's not smoked for the curing effect but rather ingested or topically applied

What were they smokin when they thought of building nukes, especially one of the Worst design types, the GE Mark I which even 3 of the original GE design engineers whistleblew on 42 years ago, and then putting them on major Fault Lines in Japan!?!?
http://www.google.com/search...
^Ka-Blooey!!(coming to a reality near ewe)
Actually

Roxbury, VT

#17 Apr 8, 2013
You are wrong.
Get Talking

Roxbury, VT

#19 Apr 9, 2013
This is a neat bit of a conversation that I came across. I will include the link so you can get all the details. In part:

Anonymous said...
This whole deal of going in with Hydro Quebec got me to wondering if any of you think your Governor (Shumlin) is somewhat of a hypocrite in that he takes every opportunity to rail against an out-of-state but US company, always going out of his way to name it as "Entergy Louisiana" (as if Louisiana was the forbidden word), yet he has no problems embracing Hydro Quebec, which is not only out-of-state, but also out-of-the-country? Don't get me wrong, I have no problems with foreign trade per se, but it seems Shumlin is talking out of both sides of his mouth if he makes one company seem somehow "evil" for being "Louisiana", but the other is Quebec and "not evil". Why is he being disloyal to a US-based company, one that provides jobs and security not only to US citizens, but citizens of his own state? It seems he is willing to throw his own constituents out of work by trashing VY, and at the same time throw in his lot with a firm that provides jobs to non-US, non-Vermont employees.

April 9, 2013 at 9:16 AM
Get Talking

Roxbury, VT

#20 Apr 9, 2013
Here is the response:

Yes, I have noticed this, and so have other people.

The situation is even worse than you describe, because Green Mountain Power is a wholly owned subsidiary of Gaz Metro, a Canadian company with kind-of-weird ties to Hydro Quebec.(They are both part of some kind of Quebec province-wide holding company, but I have never figured it out so I don't write about it.)

Anyhow, a relatively recent post about this: What's in it for Vermont? What's in it for Shumlin?
April 9, 2013 at 9:50 AM
Get Talking

Roxbury, VT

#21 Apr 9, 2013
Here is the story link:

Alternative Energy Siting in Vermont: The Hearing
http://yesvy.blogspot.com/2013/04/alternative...

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