Humilation is beneficial to eight year olds right Joe, better yet let all those six year old street urchins boil grass soup and eat mud burgers. Malnutrition is great for building character, brain cells , and motivation to work in the woolen mills!barracks with chow lines should be built to house the long term dysfunctional. No more anything after 6 months, limit the current system to 6 months and than off to the barracks, no school lunches, nothing.
Either people support themselves and their kids or off to the barrackas after 6 months. While wards of the state, no social life, no entertanment, no toys, nothing but books to read.
#25 Apr 22, 2013
#26 Apr 22, 2013
what does your babble have to do with the topic of getting people off welfare or my suggestion we should stop making life so confy for them ? People in the military live in barracks and eat in chow lines and they sign up to do it.
Emotional basket cases that talk stupid like you are just sand in the gears to problem solving in this country. You are probably one of those angry miserable people who will cheer on anything that will help destory America because you hate America and will use any means possible to destroy the country including the plight of the poor.
#27 Apr 22, 2013
Yes, you do have to think of the children.
#28 Apr 22, 2013
I am a native Vermonter, Christian, Republican, Navy Veteran American educated educational advocate who is erronousley thought to be "rich" by this states standards. I don't think children should be made to pay for their adult's sins. I offer you no apologies.
#29 Apr 23, 2013
I'm a flatlander and you bleeding heart liberals created the inner city youth and you still think you are doing the children a favor enabling the squaws to pop out meal tickets ? You people are turning VT into what I fled. Brattleboro, Rutland, Springfeild, Benningon, Bellows Falls are become welfare cities.
"educated educational advocate"
Sounds like stuffing your own pockets off the suffering as a victims advocate.
as in financial conservative or anti abortion while getting your VA benefits and milking a suffering industry job.
A Christian, Republican would be pro family, the children need a daddy, not a welfare mother. Vermonts high cost housing and high taxes creates poverty. Detroit is a shining example of 50 years of libtardism in action, the family destroyed and widespread poverty, drug use and violence.
50 years ago we had poverty, but didn't have hopelessness.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over an expecting different results. It's not for the children, it's for the people using the plight of the poor to stuff their own pockets, they could care less about the poor children.
Educated you are not, ignorant and brainwashed woud be a better description or you are just down right evil and heartless and could care less as long as the money keeps flowing into your pocket making money off the suffering industry.
Rewarding bad choices just encourages more people to make bad choices, anyone with half a brain can figue that out so you are either dumb as a box of rocks or a heartless evil person supporting something that puts money in your pocket.
#30 Apr 23, 2013
I agree that 50 years of welfare has made a big mess of things. I know how much children need a father, because my kids were raised with their father in our home. Still, I don't like to see children suffer for the stupidity of their parents.
#31 Apr 23, 2013
In matters of truth and justice, there is no difference between large and small problems, for issues concerning the treatment of people are all the same.
#32 Apr 23, 2013
Eight year olds are humiliated by their parents being on welfare too. But as they grow they rationalize that it must be ok to accept welfare so that by the time they are adults they can say to themselves..."It must be ok to be on welfare it was what my mother did."
We want them to think it is not ok to be on welfare. We want them to think about being self reliant and personally responsible. How are you going to do that unless we put pressure on the entire welfare system?
#33 Apr 23, 2013
Most of the country is suffering supporting the giant nanny state, criminal justice machine and wastefull education industry and almost everything comes down to sniff, sniff it's for the children. We have destroyed the future of the children because of the waste and being globally uncompetative.
"roughly 80% of the U.S. economy is waste, friction, skim, fraud, profiteering and diminishing-returns inefficiency. Any system that spends 80% of its surplus on diminishing returns is doomed to insolvency."
"The Status Quo firmly embraces both sides of the welfare state coin: corporate welfare lavished on favored cartels (education, healthcare, defense, oil/gas, banking, etc.) and transfer payments to individuals, i.e. paying people to stay at home watching TV. Republicans and Democrats alike are crony-capitalists par excellence, and both ends of the political spectrum are delighted to warehouse the poor at home via welfare, where the steady drip of State dependence saps their motivation to make political demands on the State-corporate partnership. "
Reality is our economy has the means to provide a decent standard of living and quality of life for every citizens willing to contribute to society but do to the waste, theft and stupidity we have people living in poverty while total jackasses piss away wealth created.
KB Homes is also offering them for sale in other places down around $130,000 and they are still loaded with extra's so this country could provide affordable GREEN housing to lower the cost of living in this country so we could be more globally competative and than the poor children produced by selfish squaws would have a future to look forward to instead of it's hopeless, lets party.
Old charles is a hippie flower child living in Berkeley CA and nails it day after day with his articles.
#34 Apr 23, 2013
Joe you should stick to your area of expertise. Most children love their adult regardless of the adult’s ability or willingness to provide for them. It is a basic survival instinct.
#35 Apr 23, 2013
Sorry Joe, I meant Markiemark.
#36 Apr 23, 2013
The people feeding off the suffering and milking the system will defend the Status Quo because most of them are doing just fine while stuffing their own pockets off suffering industry jobs supported by taxpayers and they could care less if the system is driving jobs out of the country, it grows their client base.
One minor problem it' shrinking the tax base to support them and their clients. They will only figure it out when the machine they are feeding off of turns them into supper because the people at the top of the food chain will sell them out to keep their own racket going. First they burn the government employed sanitation workers who are union government employee's by privatizing garbage collection and than they look for the next group, how about the custodians who take care of the schools and other government buildings ? hire a cleaning service.
The top feeders slowly work their way up the food chain, they start eating their own from the bottom up and the day will come they get social workers and than school employee's so the top feeders can keep stuffing their on pockets.
"NY govenor Cuomo recently met with some local officials to build support for his proposal to change the binding arbitration law that guides labor disputes. He wants to require mediators to consider taxpayers' ability to pay when awarding judgments to public workers, most of which go to firefighters and police officers."
times are tough in upstate NY, sell out police and fire and down the road they will sacrifice another group.
It's all America has come down to sinse the 70's, sell out one group of blue collar workers after the next to keep the game going and than the came for the white collar workers in the great recession of 2007 because they ran out of blue collar worker to sell out.
#37 Apr 23, 2013
Joe, I agree in this one respect, programs that are not proven waste valuable resources that could instead be used for those that are researched based. A good example of a sacred cow that has not lived up to its expectations is Head Start; it is not a proven program. But that doesn't mean Head Start can't or shouldn’t be remediated.
The CIS program here in town is an example of how an excellent program meets children's needs.
#38 Apr 23, 2013
A government hating pod of sharks!
#39 Apr 23, 2013
Children in the 5th grade are embarassed that their parents are on welfare even if they do love them.
But you are somewhat right and that is why children, later as adults, rationalize that it is ok to be on welfare. "If it was ok for mom then it is ok for me." This is a major contributor to the reason why our welfare system has added and added people and has now become a mutlitgenerational problem for us.
How are you going to stop this from happening?
#40 Apr 23, 2013
Why do you have difficulty accepting that there is a lot about the nanny state that needs criticism and reform? It is in fact love of your country that makes honest people want to criticize and reform their government.
#41 Apr 23, 2013
I looked at the budget and what is provided, it meets the needs of the people running it, not the taxpayers funding it threw grants.
Wndsor county could provide services removing all the skimmng at the federal, state and local level. We sned money to the state capitol and DC and get pennies back on the dollar with all sorts of string attached which removes all descreation from local officials on how to help their own people.
Thomas Jefferson to James Madison
6 Mar. 1796
Have you considered all the consequences of your proposition respecting post roads? I view it as a source of boundless patronage to the executive, jobbing to members of Congress & their friends, and a bottomless abyss of public money. You will begin by only appropriating the surplus of the post office revenues; but the other revenues will soon be called into their aid, and it will be a scene of eternal scramble among the members, who can get the most money wasted in their State
It was a Bill for the more general diffusion of learning. This proposed to divide every county into wards of 5. or 6. miles square, like your townships; to establish in each ward a free school for reading, writing and common arithmetic; to provide for the annual selection of the best subjects from these schools who might receive at the public expense a higher degree of education at a district school (high school) and from these district schools to select a certain number of the most promising subjects to be compleated at an University, where all the useful sciences should be taught. Worth and genius would thus have been sought out from every condition of life, and compleatly prepared by education for defeating the competition of wealth and birth for public trusts.
shocking, we should only send the most promising students to high school and offer the really smart kids the same oppertunity as Bush Babies.
Instead we warehouse kids who reached their peak about the 6th to 8th grade in high schools and have no money to help smart lower income students attend a university.
#42 Apr 23, 2013
Why not serve on the board Joe?
#43 Apr 23, 2013
Early identification and intervention saves a ton of money in the long term.
#45 Apr 23, 2013
It sounds like yuppie hype to get grant money to run a daycare for a few kids at a huge annual cost and on top of it there is overhead at the government department of free money to give out the grant money.
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