Plan to help people get off welfare is a good idea

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frankly

Bennington, VT

#1 Apr 22, 2013
Yippee! the democrats are starting to get it! Will it stick is the question.

http://www.reformer.com/localnews/ci_23076410...
frankly

Bennington, VT

#2 Apr 22, 2013
Interesting related fact: If you go on the SNAP program web site (SNAP is Vermont's food stamp program) you will see they list two reasons why people might want to sign up for SNAP.

To get nutritous food.

To get money to pay for your phone bill.

I am not kidding.
Markiem

Bennington, VT

#3 Apr 22, 2013
As Ronald Reagan noted in 1968,“We should measure welfare’s success by how many people leave welfare, not by how many are added.” He also stated in 1970 that “welfare’s purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.” Unfortunately, the federal welfare system fails to accomplish this purpose. Welfare reforms that promote work are key to achieving the goal of helping those in need become once again self-reliant and independent.
flat lander

United States

#4 Apr 22, 2013
How cruel you are wanting these people to work, be responsible and account for their needs. If you make them work they will have less time to scam and relax.
Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

#5 Apr 22, 2013
Something is missing in your head?
Joe

Chester, VT

#7 Apr 22, 2013
barracks with chow lines should be built to house the long term dysfunctional. No more anything after 6 months, limit the current system to 6 months and than off to the barracks, no school lunches, nothing.
Either people support themselves and their kids or off to the barrackas after 6 months. While wards of the state, no social life, no entertanment, no toys, nothing but books to read.
I Know More Than You

Merrimack, NH

#9 Apr 22, 2013
Joe wrote:
barracks with chow lines should be built to house the long term dysfunctional. No more anything after 6 months, limit the current system to 6 months and than off to the barracks, no school lunches, nothing.
Either people support themselves and their kids or off to the barrackas after 6 months. While wards of the state, no social life, no entertanment, no toys, nothing but books to read.
Not sure if you are serious or just another idiot.
Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

#10 Apr 22, 2013
Why, so you can work for minimum wage where you barely got enough to eat and certainly can't afford housing, let lone medical...what is the point?
Joe

Chester, VT

#11 Apr 22, 2013
Chris Ess wrote:
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After 6 months of state benefits, someone becomes a ward of the state and that's better how? Are you saying we should consider letting people starve?
a barracks with a cot and 2 hots is a lot cheaper than section 8 , food stamps, welfare, heating oil assistance and if they are all rounded up in one place a lot easier to police them. Wanna bet we won't have another generation of welfare queen single mothers when government assistance amounts to a cot and 2 hots and no life ?

got me how you came to the conclusion a chow line is starving.

Now we even get to pay their electric bills, everyone donates without a choice $1.50 a month when they pay their electric bill so the welfare queens get a huge discount. Maybe we can pay to insulate peoples houses also, oh yeah we already do.
Joe

Chester, VT

#12 Apr 22, 2013
I Know More Than You wrote:
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Not sure if you are serious or just another idiot.
serious, I've had it with the professional victims.
Joe

Chester, VT

#13 Apr 22, 2013
Mike Mulligan wrote:
Why, so you can work for minimum wage where you barely got enough to eat and certainly can't afford housing, let lone medical...what is the point?
4 minimum wage workers is over $60k a year, they could share a 2 bedroom apartment. Stop crying, life is tough and really tough on stupid people.
Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

#14 Apr 22, 2013
Very few minimum wage earners do 40 hours per week...
Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

#15 Apr 22, 2013
Joe wrote:
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serious, I've had it with the professional victims.
Waa...
Markiemark

Bennington, VT

#18 Apr 22, 2013
Chris Ess wrote:
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No, you're not kidding.
You're misrepresenting facts.
3SquaresVT is Vermont's name for the federal Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). Formerly called food stamps, it is a program of the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA).
Because YOU wanted to gripe about assisting fellow Vermonters, you couldn't be bothered to post the links:
http://dcf.vermont.gov/esd/3SquaresVT
http://vermontfoodhelp.com
Income Guidelines:
http://dcf.vermont.gov/esd/3SquaresVT/income_...
3SquaresVT allows for purchase of vegetable and fruit seeds and plants. Because it costs LESS to grow them then buy them.
Other Program Benefits [of 3SquaresVT]
Fuel Assistance
Free School Meals
Lifeline and Link Up -**Here's "That PHONE Program" which is actually a reduction in phone bill and was started by Saint Ronnie Raygun.**
You cannot use your 3SquaresVT benefits to buy:
Hot prepared foods
Wine or Beer
Cigarettes
Pet food
Soap
Paper products
Household supplies
Fraud, whether by program recipients or stores, can be reported by calling 1-800-479-6151. Speak to a Customer Service Representative during business hours (Monday to Thursday 8:00 AM to 5:45 PM; Friday 8:00 AM to 3:15 PM) and file a complaint or report fraud.
Oh really? The also can get cash from and ATM. So how do you know they don't buy cigarettes and beer?

"3SquaresVT
The official State website for federal SNAP benefits
3SquaresVT is a federal USDA program that can help you stretch your food budget and put three square meals a day on your table. Benefits may include:

•A monthly payment to help you buy more and better food; and
•Help with your phone bills."

http://dcf.vermont.gov/esd/3SquaresVT
Joe

Chester, VT

#19 Apr 22, 2013
Chris Ess wrote:
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I know 4 out of work people. Can you point them in the direction of those 4 open jobs?
C&S is always hiring along with the trucking industry, tell them to go enjoy the open road and get paid to see the country.
Joe

Chester, VT

#20 Apr 22, 2013
Mike Mulligan wrote:
Very few minimum wage earners do 40 hours per week...
try trucking, plenty of hours all day and night 7 days a week, plus benefits.

work 100 hours
log about 70 hours
get paid for about 40 hours.
Markiemark

Bennington, VT

#21 Apr 22, 2013
Chris Ess wrote:
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After 6 months of state benefits, someone becomes a ward of the state and that's better how? Are you saying we should consider letting people starve?
They won't starve.
Joe

Chester, VT

#22 Apr 22, 2013
Markiemark wrote:
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They won't starve.
Chris is probably a social worker or married to one and needs clients so will try and keep the racket going as it stands. The professional victims advocates will tear apart anyone who meddles in their racket of exploiting victims of poverty for personal gain.
Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

#23 Apr 22, 2013
Isn't that the truth!
Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

#24 Apr 22, 2013
Joe wrote:
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try trucking, plenty of hours all day and night 7 days a week, plus benefits.
work 100 hours
log about 70 hours
get paid for about 40 hours.


Isn't that the truth!

We have a lot of C&S workers who are maimed around here.

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