The murder of David T. Snow?

The murder of David T. Snow?

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Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#1 Jun 17, 2009
Seems I am the only one qualified to ask the tough questions.

If Brattleboro Memorial Hospital was a full inner-city hospital trauma unit and he was stabbed within 1 mile of the unit....would Snow be alive today?

We need a time line on when he was stabbed, when the police arrived on the scene, then the ambulance, when he got into the hospital.

We need a time line and a list of procedures preformed in the hospital of Snow...what could a full fledge trauma unit in a big city do that Brattleboro Memorial couldn’t?
flat lander

United States

#2 Jun 17, 2009
they very questions were what drove your grand mother to tell you not to go out at night unless it's a emergency not even to walk the dog apparently. why are you walking down elliot st at 2/3 am yelling that a car of kids drove off with your money and slash a tire and some body unrelated to your problem. answer; drunk and coked out and just happen to have a knife answer; idiot to the third power . square root is twilite enough thiwdle dee
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#3 Jun 17, 2009
What you got in Brattleboro is the whole downtown area has become a inner city low income private housing project. It is fundamentally a failure of our nation’s low income housing program and section 8 housing vouchers. Everyone doesn’t want to admit it but a lot of commercial ventures left the downtown area and it was replaced apartments. I like to know how much section 8 vouchers are in the downtown area. Generally the real-estate people are the most powerful political force in the state...they made a lot of profits riding section 8 and our move about from public housing. They rode the appreciation of our housing prices and real-estate for the last 30 it has changed. There certainly is a lot of non profits involved in this. I bet you there has been a huge shift away from the middle class apartment holders, with a move into section 8 in the downtown area.. The regular low income people without section 8 are poor renters and they move often or get kicked out for non payment...while the section 8 people with kids are more stable for the landlords. There has been big push from the slum dwelling property owners to hush up all the money they made by turning commercial property into low income the commercial businesses want the keep the problems hushed up because they don’t want to drive business further from the downtown area.

Generally the downtown areas of like Brattleboro and Keene are overburdened with the housing of the mentally disabled...section 8...the troubled and the vulnerable flock to the more populated towns like Keene and Brattleboro....the disabled and the vulnerable flee the rural and small town areas of the rest of the state. So you get my point, towns like Brattleboro have to disproportionally pick up the service for the vulnerable and mentally disabled. The real-estate people make out like bandits...that drives the cost of services onto everyone else.

Should you have a huge inner city low income housing project injected into the downtown business district of Brattleboro? Hinsdale and their big downtown apartment low income housing suffer from the same disease.

You got a ton of teenagers and young adults running around with nothing to do and under employed...or unemployed...what do you think listless and bored teenagers and younge adults will do with their free time?
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#4 Jun 17, 2009
I consider our inadequate medical and mental illness care our American gulag and “crimes against humanity”. We cage great numbers of people in unnecessary mental illness and life long dysfunction...or we just stick them is jail for being mentally ill without any treatment. If they had treatment it would be a lot less costly and it save a lot of innocent lives. We don’t provide mental illness services for those who want it and we don’t enforce care for those whose lives would be better if given adequate care. There are a lot of incentives to give a person in exchange for adequate mental illness care...and there is legal coercion if all else fail. There has been an amazing amount of injury and death to innocent mentally healthy people by people who have a know untreated mental illness. This is all remnants from the 1960’s and 1970’s incomplete and inexpensive deinstitutionalization of the mentally disabled.
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#5 Jun 17, 2009
So who murdered of David T. and you!
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#6 Jun 17, 2009
So who murdered David T. and you!

Haverhill, NH

#7 Jun 17, 2009
I truly believe he lost a lot of blood that night. He was stabbed in the neck. I don't think there was much anyone could do to help. I think Officer Dimarino did an excellent job of doing what he could.

Williamstown, VT

#8 Jun 17, 2009
Comment for Mike Mulligan -- the HCRS in Brattleboro is a joke on the mentally ill. They render them more disabled than they already are. They exacerbate emotional problems. They devastate relatives and destroy the reputations of good family members. Where on Earth do they get their funding? This is what we get for living in a "progressive" area.
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#9 Jun 18, 2009
Yea, but that is the republic rendition of helping the poor and low income housing. You massively subsidize a rich private organization and creating housing bonds and tax advantages for housing the poor. It is trickle down, you give tax subsidies to rich people and non profits, that further stealing money fro the state and federal budgets, so you give money to the unjustified rich to house the poor. They own the low income housing property and appreciating property...then they end owning the property. The rich end up dictating the terms of the living of the poor. The USA low income housing policy was a political payoff to the real-estate people...cycle all that money through the rich and give minimum benefits to the poor. It is massive reverse socialism of the rich before the trillion dollar socialism became popular today. A lot of liberals rode this subsidization and they stole money from the this shame liberalism and care for the poor. You only care about the poor as you own the property and are stealing from the poor. My only altruism for our is when I am making a fist full of money from section 8 housing and tax subsidies.

We got to go back with government owned housing...we got to go back where we have planned and engineered housing...where bettering yourself and your kids are part of the deal with living in government housing !
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#10 Jun 18, 2009
Right, this area rode the real-estate game by creating a huge shortage of middle class and low incomes housing in our area in the last decade. While most regions overbuilt we under built moderate housing. Well, we created a huge market of tourism and expensive second homes market. All through this area wages and human dignity has been extremely throttled, with the artificial shortage of lower housing through so called environmental reasons, renters flocked to private property owners and rental prices shot to the roof. The most vulnerable lost the most in this. With stagnant wages and low jobs production in this been bulldozing income and wealth from the poor, vulnerable and middle class, bucket loading 100 dollar bills into the pockets of the rich and smart politicians.

You see what I am saying essentially with non profits housing have been subsidizing the lives of the rich by place enormous burdens on the poor. The poor and vulnerable are subsidizing the is reverse socialism for the rich.
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#11 Jun 18, 2009
So what does that say by all our democrat’s politicians going to Washington and our state capitals...they are rich real-estate liberal?
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#12 Jun 19, 2009

June 20, 2009
Hard Times for New England’s 3-Deckers
NEW BEDFORD, Mass.— As foreclosures batter the dense neighborhoods of urban New England, a regional emblem is under siege.
Three-decker homes, which proliferated in cities like Boston; Providence, R.I.; and Worcester, Mass., a century ago and remain fixtures of the landscape, are being foreclosed on at disproportionate rates, left to decay and even razed.
Rows of wood-frame triple-deckers have provided moody backdrops in movies like “Mystic River,” a first glimpse of Boston for people who have landed at Logan International Airport and, for generations, an affordable and reasonably spacious place to live.

In the boom years, three-deckers presented a different kind of opportunity. Out-of-town investors bought them, sometimes by the block, and rented them out without keeping them up.

“For many people, they’re a form of business,” said Timothy M. Warren Jr., chief executive of the Warren Group in Boston, which tracks real estate transactions.“There are absentee landlords, they take the risk, and if it doesn’t work, they walk.”
In Boston, three-family homes represent 14 percent of the housing stock, but made up
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#13 Jun 19, 2009
Kelty wrote:
Comment for Mike Mulligan -- the HCRS in Brattleboro is a joke on the mentally ill. They render them more disabled than they already are. They exacerbate emotional problems. They devastate relatives and destroy the reputations of good family members. Where on Earth do they get their funding? This is what we get for living in a "progressive" area.
They privatized everything, it should be a government job. When it is private the operation of the organization can’t be scrutinized?
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#14 Jun 20, 2009
It is a great article to create a discussion...but it is socialism for the rich...have the poor and government subsidized the lives of the rich in the name of altruism!

June 21, 2009

Old Public Housing Makes Way for New Approach in Atlanta


ATLANTA — In 1936, Atlanta built Techwood Homes, the nation’s first housing project. By the 1990s, a greater percentage of the city’s residents were living in housing projects — sprawling red-brick barracks that pockmarked the skyline — than in any other city in America.

Now, Atlanta is nearing a very different record: becoming the first major city to knock them all down. By next June, officials here plan to demolish the city’s last remaining housing project, fulfilling a long and divisive campaign to reduce poverty by decentralizing it.

Mixed-income developments oriented toward families, with trendy shops, golf courses and Y.M.C.A.’s are emerging where bleak, uniform towers once stood. Displaced residents are receiving vouchers to move to private housing. And a landmark experiment in housing the urban poor in large government-run facilities that began under the New Deal is being undone.
Over the past 15 years, Atlanta has bulldozed about 15,000 units, spread across 32 housing projects, some of which once contained as many as 2,500 residents.

“We’ve realized that concentrating families in poverty is very destructive,” said Renée L. Glover, the executive director of the Atlanta Housing Authority.“It’s destructive to the families, the neighborhoods and the city.”

The elimination of housing projects does not mean the abandonment of public housing. The Atlanta Housing Authority pays for more residents’ housing these days than it did in the 1990s. But they are scattered throughout the city in mixed-income communities and private housing financed with vouchers through the government’s Section 8 program.

Still, critics of the demolitions worry about the toll on residents, who must qualify for vouchers, struggle to find affordable housing and often move to only slightly less impoverished neighborhoods. Especially in a troubled economy, civil rights groups say, uprooting can lead to homelessness if more low-income housing is not made available. Lawsuits have been filed in many other cities, generally without success, that claim that similar relocations violate residents’ civil rights and resegregate the poor.

The federal government has advocated variations of this approach for several decades, particularly since President Bill Clinton began the Hope VI program in the 1990s to disperse residents from centralized projects. Atlanta may be the furthest along, but its plans to demolish buildings, relocate residents and work with private developers to gentrify destitute neighborhoods are being mirrored across the country in cities like Chicago, Detroit, Miami and New Orleans.

Over all, 195,000 public housing units have met the wrecking ball across the country since 2006, and over 230,000 more units are scheduled for demolition, according to the Department of Housing and Urban Development.

Atlanta began its demolition effort in 1995 in preparation for the Olympic Games, with the encouragement of local politicians and real estate developers.

Only four of the city’s housing projects remain, along with 13 smaller public housing facilities, mostly for senior citizens, that the city will continue to operate.

“Atlanta’s plan signifies in a very clear way that the social contract that cities and citizens have with the poor has fundamentally changed,” said Sudhir Venkatesh, a sociologist at Columbia University who studies urban neighborhoods.“We’ve decided that the market can function to create housing and the role of government should be to move people into the market.”
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#15 Jun 20, 2009
What do they got about a six year wait to get put on section 8.

I was actually a section 8 and Keene Housing low income project housing inspector. I went to a lot of section 8 housing in the community. This is during the heart of the housing shortage in our area. The Housing Authority management was intimidated by the real-estate people and all those that gave borrowing authority to the authority....especially the politicians. According to the HUD rules, I never got any formal training, I could license a dog house for human habituation. I licensed some terrible apartments. These real-estate people were vicious, if you failed them on some deficiency, they would throw the section 8 people right out of house and brag about it to us. They and our managers wanted use to get the message if we failed a apartment, sometimes for a insignificant reason, they wanted us inspectors to know we our activities was going to cause a innocent family to get thrown out on the road.

I believe they got wind of my whistle blowing activities, cause I got mysteriously fired. They said they were having funding problems and cutbacks, but I didn’t believe them.
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#16 Jun 20, 2009
I lived in Atlanta, Sugar Hill, for about 8 years begging in about 1993. My daughter was about seven years old, she was a smart little **it. We was heading south through Atlanta...there was a lot of black faces in the cars around us. My daughter wasn’t saying anything in the back seat. We passed about 5 school buses in a row...everyone one of the children were black in all the buses. She pipes up,“hey mom”, there was a little irony in her voice, but with a voice that was absolutely serious and perplexed with not knowing how the real world worked, said,“see those buses, I thought Martin Luther King fixed that.

I spent a lot of time by myself cruising in the tough neighborhoods of inner city Atlanta. I am lucky I am still alive. I remember the worst one, it was a large low income housing project. You knew the housing authority hadn’t kept up with any maintenance for decades...the grass was never cut. Haft the buildings were abandoned and boarded up, some of them had a window where the plywood was removed, black people where living in it, some houses didn’t have any front door and most windows were knocked out, young children going in and our of the house, a lot of housing that was partially demolished, a lot that were burnt out, just a few looked decent. You have black kids and young adults all over the place...and believe me I was stared at.

This just wasn’t America, that is what I is some poverty stricken African country and the world forgot about the them. You wouldn’t believe how bad it was, a lot of projects were in the same conditions.

I remember Jessie Jackson and a few other faces that were the media darlings in those times...and I though, how could they be tolerating this?
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#17 Jun 20, 2009
Yep, and we lived in Gwinnet County Georgia , just miles from lake Lanier...we was one of the richest and white areas in the south. I was a cement truck driver down there, they were the fastest growing county area anywhere in the country for years...a poured a cement all over that area for a lot of Mcmansions.

You get my point, the dichotomy from a doorless apartment in a Atlanta black inner city housing projects, to pouring a cement driveway out in the boonies of a Alpharetta Mcmansion. I remember when the Sugarloaf Golf Course was nothing but woods... then poured most of their cement curbing and the cellars and slabs of their massive Mcmanions with that beautiful exclusive gated community.
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#18 Jun 20, 2009
It is common knowledge that you knock down one low income project...the residents gets dispersed to many other private neighborhoods without curing the low income project destroys 20 private neighborhood. The project people infect the middle and upper class kids with crimes
Mike Mulligan

Roslindale, MA

#19 Jun 22, 2009
What they would do is put these low income projects Springfield Housing Authority...they’d put their cronies in charge, all the politicians would put their family member in work there who won’t do their jobs, the head will steal millions of dollars from the authority...then we will say the project is a failure. That is the form we see all over the country...then we bulldozer the failed projects and then fill up the real-estate peoples dump trucks with 100 dollar bills.
Davids Aunt Lori


#20 Aug 25, 2009
Dear Mike to anwser your question about my beloved nephew the failure of the police to arrest Andrew Sheets when they were first called stole my nephew from his family.They had stopped and talked to him<the monster after someone had called and reported him for attacking a car and flattening the tires and accousting people.Four hours after our precious David was stolen from us the monster was still twice the legal limit for alcohal and that was before they got the results on his drug test back.He should of immediatley arrested him if for nothing else public intoxication.But they didnt.They left that animal to roam free and within MINUTES of them leaving him my brave nephew lay dying in his brohters lap holding so tightly to his fian'ces hand the parametics literally had to pry his hand away from hers.I believe from personally reading eyewiteness statements and talking to both my nephew and Daves fian'ce he was already dead.He died in the street like a runover dog.He knew he was dying.I wont share his last words with you because they are for my family and his fianc'e only.At least until they come out in court.Do you relieze that after Dave was stabbed the animal came after his little brother again.By the grace of our Higer Power he was able to knock him off balance and run to his brother.Even than the basta@@ picked up the knife AGAIN and before he could destroy any more of my family the police pulled up.The coward tha dropped the knife and got on his knees.Tell me, what do you think would of happened if they had NOT showed.My sister would of been burying two sons instead of one.MY family has been shattered!I cannot begin to tell you the devastion Andrew Sheets has brought upon my family.Do you have any idea what it is like to bare witness your family one by one submerging into their own private hells?I could tell you how each and every single one of my family has suffered .But again ,that is for family only until we have no other choice but to relieve the horror in court .The ripple effect of total destruction he has inflicted on my family is immeasurable!Who pays for my familys horror??I have very little faith in the authorities and I cant help but worry that this frigging animal will got off with a slap on the wrist.Where is Davids justice?Who comforts his daughter when she crys and says"I miss my daddy,I wish my daddy wasnt in heaven like my kitty.I miss my daddy.This ontop of everything else is exactly what his mother has had to confront.Our Davids most treasured daughter curling up in her grandmothers lap and saying these exact words.David died for his little brother without a moments hesitation.And that , is who my family is! We are protectors of the little guy.We do not hesitate to get involved instead of pretending we dont see and letting some pour soul get hurt.We even DIE for it! The kicker to all of this is Dave would of died for the monster who stole his life.Any of my family members would have had they seen a man in the same postion as my 18 year old nephew trying to calm a 41 year old man armed with a knife.I pray my nephew gets justice for the ultimate sacrifice he made.He put himself in front of the knife meant for his most treasured little brother.Please pray for my family and I that our Dave gets his justice and this S.O.B never breaths one more breath of free air.For I have NO faith whatsoever in our so called justice system,sincerily Davids Aunt Lori

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