China’s solar panel wind pollution

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green lies

Plainfield, NH

#2 Jan 17, 2013
As Coal Imports Rise, Getting Harder To Breathe In China Cities

It’s getting harder to breathe in China. And ever-increase tonnage of U.S. coal bound for China is adding to the problem.

China is the largest producer and consumer of coal in the world, and accounts for almost half of the world’s coal consumption. China’s electricity generation continues to be dominated by fossil fuel sources, particularly coal.
green lies

Plainfield, NH

#3 Jan 17, 2013
Chinese manufacturers, who can often underprice goods because of generous state subsidies, have moved into the American market and have become an issue in the larger trade tensions between the two countries. In July 2012, the United States Commerce Department imposed tariffs on steel turbine towers from China after finding that manufacturers had been selling them for less than the cost of production.

China Storms into Wind and Solar Power
China figures large in renewable energy’s future. It already is the world’s largest market for new wind turbines.

In solar, China’s share of global demand is set to rise to 13% in 2015 from 7% this year, says Barclays Capital.

Moreover, if renewable technologies are to wean themselves off state subsidies, the sort of deflation imposed by the expansion of Chinese competitors is necessary.
green lies

Plainfield, NH

#4 Jan 17, 2013
world paid heed. President Obama in his 2012 State of the Union address warned that the U.S. needed to invest more in renewables lest the Chinese ace it out.“I will not cede the wind or solar or battery industry to China … be cause we refuse to make the same commitment here,” the president declared.

So what’s China gotten for its money so far? Clean power, and plenty of it. The country now has the capacity to generate 6.2 gigawatts of solar power and 68.3 gigawatts of wind, enough to replace the equivalent of about 50 coal-fired power plants. By comparison, the U.S. has 5.7 gigawatts of installed solar capacity and 51.6 gigawatts of wind power, according to trade association and government figures. The downside is that China’s $30 billion solar power industry is overbuilt and heavily in debt. Analysts say even billions of dollars in new government loans may not be able to pull it out of the hole...
China’s wind turbine manufacturers, responsible for 40 percent of the world’s output, are suffering a double squeeze, as demand has stalled both at home and abroad. Sinovel Wind Group, the world’s largest wind turbine maker by market value, posted a $45 million third-quarter loss this year on an 82 percent drop in sales—its largest loss since its initial public offering in January 2011
green lies

Plainfield, NH

#5 Jan 17, 2013
Long story short: China is importing cheap US Coal and using it to manufacture wind turbines, solar panels, energy star appliances….at a lower cost than Americans manufacture them. China then turns around and sells their coal manufactured "green energy" products to American consumers.
green lies

Plainfield, NH

#6 Jan 17, 2013
Looks like Vermont’s energy policy is just another case of NIMBY, but sooner or later we are going to run out of backyards!
the vt joke

Plainfield, NH

#7 Jan 19, 2013
Fight over Vermont Yankee nuclear plant oversight in New York court
the vt joke

Plainfield, NH

#8 Jan 19, 2013
Thorium: energy cheaper than coal

Please welcome our first guest blogger, Canadian molten salt reactor expert David LeBlanc. Dr. LeBlanc has just returned from India, where that country’s MSRs initiatives impressed him, to say the least. We asked him to say a lot more than that, and we’re glad we did…

Plainfield, NH

#9 Jan 19, 2013
This Old Picture Of Manhattan Smog Looks Just Like Beijing Today

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Plainfield, NH

#10 Jan 19, 2013
"what few people probably remember is that New York City, and much of the eastern United States, faced a similar environmental disaster during the 1950s and '60s."

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Plainfield, NH

#11 Jan 19, 2013
Manhattan smog before Indian Point went on-line. 1966.

Sharon, VT

#12 Jan 26, 2013
It's junk energy!
Wind controversy dominates Brattleboro energy hearing

Think about the years and tons of money spent remediating and tearing out New England’s abandoned dams...that will be wind and solar down the road.
Anti-Solar BS Debunked

Brattleboro, VT

#13 Jan 26, 2013
'Myths And Facts About Solar Energy'

"Conservative media have denigrated solar energy by denying its sustainability, ignoring its successes, and arguing the U.S. should simply cede the solar market to China. Yet this booming industry has made great strides, and with the right policies can become a major source of our power."

MYTH: Solar Energy Is "Dirty"
FACT: Solar Energy Can Greatly Reduce Pollution
MYTH: Solar Energy Requires Vast Amounts Of Land
FACT: Modest Amount Of Desert Land Could Supply All Our Power
MYTH: Solar Power Is Too Intermittent For U.S. FACT: U.S. Has Great Solar Potential Aided By New Technologies
MYTH: Solar Energy Is Too Expensive FACT: Solar Costs Are Dropping Rapidly
MYTH: The U.S. Solar Industry Is Failing
FACT: Solar Installations Are Booming
MYTH: U.S. Can't Compete With Chinese Solar Industry
FACT: U.S. Can Be A Solar Powerhouse With Right Policies
MYTH: Solar Is Over-Subsidized
FACT: Solar Subsidies Are Helping An Emerging Technology
(all of which are detailed at above link)

Big Advance In Making Electricity From Wastewater

Engineers at Oregon State University have made a breakthrough in the performance of microbial fuel cells that can produce electricity directly from wastewater, opening the door to a future in which waste treatment plants not only will power themselves, but will sell excess electricity.
Tax cheat

Sharon, VT

#15 Jan 27, 2013
Why then are American manufactures of solar failing miserably in spite of huge government support?
CommunismNotDead MoleInWH

Brattleboro, VT

#16 Jan 27, 2013
It's not that great of a $upport solar gets in the U.S. The ChiCom govt. gives Huge support to their solar businesses, in the U.S. it's the Nuke owners/makers that get HUGE corporate welfare and tax breaks, some co.s like GE get to cheat by paying NO taxes.
"SolarWorld, the largest U.S. solar panel manufacturer, accused Chinese competitors such as Suntech Power Holdings (STP.N) and Trina Solar (TSL.N) of selling solar cells and panels in the United States at unfairly low prices and receiving government subsidies."

China builds more and coal fired plants while Obama and his bankster puppetmasters are destroying the coal industry here. China is cornering the world market on rare earth metals while we only have Afghanistan to dig some up in.
We can't build loads of electric cars without a lot of lithium for the batteries lest they be way too expensive to produce.
The ChiComs own a lot of the 'Dept' that the damn banksters contrived and foisted on us thru their 1913 Ponzi scheme robbery known as The Fed and the continued printing of unlawful counterfeit "Federal" Reserve Notes. China will soon make Obama come to them pleading for relief on our dept to them and they'll say "Suuuure, just let us collect on some of the collateral we own, more of your infrustructure and more control over your people. Notice how right now we have commie foreigners like China and even Castro cheering-on the disarming of Americas- Tyrants always disarm the sheeple before enslaving and slaughtering them.

It should come as no surprise that the Communist Party USA is on board with President Obama’s plan to attack Americans’ right to keep and bear arms as a means to “end gun violence.”

China “Sinks” US Aircraft Carrier During War Game
SoldOut2Bankster s Chicoms

Brattleboro, VT

#17 Jan 27, 2013
Coalition for American Solar Manufacturing
^What we stand for
Healthy competition - Robust competition, without government interference favoring one country over another, optimizes innovation and efficiency and lowers prices long term.
Domestic manufacturing - Domestic production creates high-paying manufacturing jobs and builds national economic health while advancing energy independence.
Sustainable production - Solar products should be made using the highest environmental and labor standards, as close to market as possible.

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