Put a stop to VT Natural Gas
Posted in the Brattleboro Forum
#1 Jul 11, 2013
Easy answer to total energy study
The Vermont Public Service Department is launching a Total Energy Study(TES) to figure out how to meet the states energy and greenhouse gas goals. These goals state that Vermont will meet 90 percent of its energy needs from renewable sources by 2050 and that greenhouse gas emissions will be reduced to 75 percent of 1990 levels by 2050.
While the Public Service Department studies this issue they will be simultaneously urging the Public Service Board to allow the expansion of natural gas in Addison County. This indicates that the Shumlin administration is not serious about these goals. When measuring Carbon Dioxide Equivalent (CO2e), natural gas is clearly the wrong choice. CO2e is the internationally recognized measure of greenhouse emissions, accounting for all greenhouse gases, not just carbon dioxide.
Methane, which is the primary component of natural gas and one of the most potent greenhouse gases, has far more of an effect on climate change than carbon dioxide. According to the EPA, methane is over 20 times more effective in trapping heat in the atmosphere than carbon dioxide. A recent Cornell study also counters the widely-held perception that gas is the cleanest fossil fuel. In fact, natural gas can be worse for green hous gas emissions than coal. Switching from heating oil to natural gas is not a green move, and it does nothing to help the environment.
The most important thing that Vermonts Public Service Department can do to reach the states renewable energy and greenhouse gas goals is put a stop to the Addison Natural Gas Pipeline Project.
#2 Jul 11, 2013
No one can fault Don Gilbert, president of Vermont Gas, from promoting his favorite fossil fuel, but his assumptions on the emissions and cost savings of a proposed gas pipeline are based on outdated information and are not aligned with more recent science.
Vermont Gas Systems (VGS) is in the planning and permitting stages of a major natural gas transmission pipeline expansion in Chittenden and Addison counties. The proposed pipeline project will extend from Colchester to Vergennes and Middlebury, then under Lake Champlain to Ticonderoga, N.Y., to serve the International Paper mill.
In recent weeks, opposition to the pipeline has increased as landowners, climate activists like Bill McKibben, and environmental groups like Vermont Public Interest Research Group, Toxics Action Center and Vermont Natural Resources Council became aware of the environmental and human health risks associated with hydraulic fracturing, gas consumption and high transmission pipelines.
The opposition is concerned that the gas in the pipeline is obtained through hydraulic fracturing,fracking, an increasingly common form of extracting gas that blasts a high-pressure cocktail of sand, water and chemicals below the surface of the earth to crack open deposits of gas in shale formations.
In detailed testimony recently filed with the Vermont Public Service Board, the Conservation Law Foundation explained that the simplistic evaluation by Vermont Gas, that the gas pipeline expansion will reduce emissions, is simply wrong.
Testimony from Dr. Elizabeth Stanton shows that the emissions from the full natural gas life cycle of the project result in significant increases in global warming pollution.
Thats because it is most likely that Vermont Gas gas supply would come from hydraulic fracturing wells producing methane emissions. Methane a much more potent greenhouse gas than CO2 is particularly troubling because, molecule for molecule, methane has roughly 25 times the warming power of CO2, according to recent EPA estimates...
#3 Jul 11, 2013
'fossil fuel' is a misnomer
yes there are real risks with fracking
but only sheeple obliviots beLIEve in the scam hoax known as 'global warming', the Earth's average temp has Not increased at all in over 15 years
please stop excreting methane out ewe'r arse here and WTFU
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#4 Jul 12, 2013
No one is going to release methane into the environment. After it is burned it is no longer methane. It is a small amount of co2 and some water vapor. Less co2 than oil or coal. Stopping the Vermont gas project will be bad for the environment.
#5 Jul 12, 2013
The real reason to oppose natural gas is that it will keep energy prices low and thus alternative energy projects uneconomic. If energy prices rise enough then "green" energy like wind and solar and geothermal start to make sense. Unfortunately energy prices would probably have to triple before that is true and natural gas is so cheap there is little chance that energy prices are going up anytime soon.
#6 Jul 12, 2013
Not sure how lying is going to help your position...
"Globally, over 60% of total CH4 emissions come from human activities. Methane is emitted from industry, agriculture, and waste management activities, described below.
- Industry. Natural gas and petroleum systems are the largest source of CH4 emissions from industry in the United States. Methane is the primary component of natural gas. Some CH4 is emitted to the atmosphere during the production, processing, storage, transmission, and distribution of natural gas. Because gas is often found alongside petroleum, the production, refinement, transportation, and storage of crude oil is also a source of CH4 emissions. For more information, see the Inventory of U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Sinks sections on Natural Gas Systems and Petroleum Systems."
#7 Jul 12, 2013
and soda & beer production releases lots of CO2 as well
so f-ing what dipsh't?
People's tax $$ going to help promote the AGW/'climate change catastrophe' hoax and the UN's Agenda 21 garbage with the EPA and that site is A-OK with ewe, so phhuuuuuck ewe
Oh looky! The Agenda 21 'Sustainablility' Sheeple Fest starts today in Tinmouth Vermont
The trendies will all be there, won't ewe be there too?
#8 Jul 12, 2013
I bet ewe'r happy about this sh't
Just like they did in Japan after Fuktupshita and all those high radiation counts, the nukescum officials just simply raised the bar and PRESTO CHANGO- the high rad counts are now within the 'safe' zone...
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According to the EPA's own data, the new PAGs will result in exponentially higher radiation-induced fatal cancers than the current goal of one in ten thousand to one in a million Americans.
#9 Jul 14, 2013
Ah the idiot raises his ugly teenage head. So how much methane is going to be released? Only answer if you know. Your silence will indicate you don't know.
#10 Jul 14, 2013
60% of what? 60% of a very small amount is an even smaller amount. To just recite a percentage without a reference point for it is tantamount to lying because it sounds more serious than it is.
Figured out how to do financial analysis of solar projects yet?
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