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Nashville, TN

#43 May 19, 2014
Wife wrote:
Samantha Eagle texted my husband night and day.
Is this Samantha crazy? I mean did she lose her mind? He's married. What she was doing was playing with fire, and when you do that, you're going to get burned.
Here's my message to Samantha: Sometimes it's not a bad idea to have a great friend who is married. This time it is. When you continued to text to him like that, you ended up degrading yourself; you're in a public job where you make your reputation. I say this because it sounds like he's just looking for an affair or just trying to run away from his problems. The chances are when his wife found out, you were forever branded the whore/home-wrecker/married-man -chaser that tried to end their marriage. You probably had that feeling already. If you didn’t, you should go to a therapist and try to grok what is so needy about you that you can't go without texting a married guy all day long. Don't you have single friends or women friends that want to chat over texting all day?
A smart lady like you: You should have seen nothing good could come of this. You may believe the wife is horrible or buy whatever other baloney he's told you. I know you don't care about her. It sounds like all you care about is yourself. If you have a conscience, you will feel like crap in your role to help him play his silly games.
I want you to know I think you were in the wrong. If it's not clear enough for you then here it is again: YES, YOU'RE IN THE WRONG. IF YOU REALLY CARED THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE LEFT HIM ALONE. Mature relationships with real friends over thirty years old don't send secret texts all day long. Real friends met their friend's spouse and/or conduct their friendship respectfully to the marriage. Your complicity in generating/answering his silly texts was irresponsible. You deserve all the fallout and karma that comes your way as a result of your mindless choices.
Xerxes

Dover, NH

#44 Jun 17, 2014
Thank you for this post. I always love the nonsense that is Naturopathic Medicine. I am amazed that these people advertise claiming that they have similar education to MDs/DOs – my impression of the most of them is that they are not that intelligent, use a lot of gobbledygook mixed with usually misunderstood biochemistry concepts and are oh so interested in having you not be a patient but rather a warrior against ‘conventional’ medicine.

I am planning to go to Medical School (MD or DO). My interest in combating alternative medicine is due to my partner who has had severe health issues and who used to be seduced by these silly alternative practitioners who had real interest in milking tons of dollars out of him while blaming him for ‘staying sick’ and ‘not believing in himself’ or ‘trusting the process’. I have developed a real anger and hatred towards these people and their silly adherents. My partner fortunately has gotten over all this alternative health nonsense and sees regular physicians now.

Naturopathic ‘doctor’s’ scare the crap out of me – there is a major quack who appears on TV, whose sense of self-importance is nauseating (I actually believe most to be narcissists) look at the videos on how she tries to sell Naturopathic Medicine to misguided students (she actually ends up selling herself more than her silly education – her bloated sense of importance drips off and her resentment and hatred for Medicine is very clear: http://vimeo.com/18290808

For more silliness and bloated sense of her non medical knowledge: http://vimeo.com/18290808
wife

Dover, NH

#46 Nov 11, 2014
When you text someone's husband over twelve thousand times, send him over five hundred emails, then go on a TV intervoew tell people what great experience you have counseling and integrating that in your practice, I think there's something strong with your perception. Granted, my husband was a jerk too, but Dr. samantha supposedly had the training and insights about making families better, more whole, all natural methods, which I guess email and text are not tecnicallydrugs. She had the training to determine that this could have caused foreseeable harm, and it did, to me my children and my husband. One of the most self Absorbed woo-woo practionets out there in my opinion . I mean how could you claim not to know twelve thousand texts would disrupt someone's family life.
He helped us

South Burlington, VT

#47 Nov 15, 2014
I'm honestly surprised at all the negativity towards this practice. We sought help for a couple of years with traditional medical doctors, trainers, specialists physical therapists...not one ran a comprehensive blood panel. Dr Mooney got to the real cause of the problem and we are finally healing.
He helped us

South Burlington, VT

#48 Nov 15, 2014
wife wrote:
When you text someone's husband over twelve thousand times, send him over five hundred emails, then go on a TV intervoew tell people what great experience you have counseling and integrating that in your practice, I think there's something strong with your perception. Granted, my husband was a jerk too, but Dr. samantha supposedly had the training and insights about making families better, more whole, all natural methods, which I guess email and text are not tecnicallydrugs. She had the training to determine that this could have caused foreseeable harm, and it did, to me my children and my husband. One of the most self Absorbed woo-woo practionets out there in my opinion . I mean how could you claim not to know twelve thousand texts would disrupt someone's family life.
I think your husband was having an affair and you are blaming his partner. You should instead be focusing on the person who betrayed you and how to move forward with your marriage ( or not). I agree that it was probably unethical for the Doctor to be involved with her patient, but you have bigger issues to face like why you are willing to put up with this behavior from your spouse.
wife

Dover, NH

#49 Nov 15, 2014
No, I think my husband was a jerk. But I also think a doctor has a higher ethical expectation than the rest of the population to "not cause harm." And to be above average in judgment and to simply be a decent human being. Naturopaths take strong oaths to this effect that is supposedly why people prefer them over traditional medicine. I had no way to protect myself from this violation in trust, trust that a doctor wouldn't cause harm and trust in my husband. Both of them had full sight of the whole situation where I did not....They had a loonnnnng time to make better healthier less destructive choices. I also think that the public deserves to be informed that this person may not be very ethical, may not have very good judgment, and won't stand up for what is right vs what is fun or convenient. She doesn't pass the sniff test here. But like I said, I fully understand my husband was culpable, but each of them had choices that would have resulted in far less damage. Then I could be writing about someone else instead of dr. Sam. People don't accidentally get involved with a married person.
He helped us

South Burlington, VT

#50 Nov 16, 2014
I understand that you are hoping that it's all on the doctor, but your husband ignored your feelings, played you the fool and carried on (instead of getting a restraining order). You need counseling to discover why you accept this sort of treatment. Open your eyes and work on fixing you.
wife

Dover, NH

#51 Nov 16, 2014
No what I said was, if it wasn't her, I'm sure my jerky husband would have found someone else who would have been willing. Just disappointed it was a member of a profession that wants so much respect and legitimacy for integrating mind and body wellness but lacks judgment, character and ethics to go with it. It's just sad that she was willing to make such poor choices at another's expense.
wife

Dover, NH

#52 Nov 16, 2014
Cry me a river.
He helped us

South Burlington, VT

#53 Nov 16, 2014
I am the adult child of a Narssistic father. In the very least take my advice to make a concerted effort to participate in life in ways that lift your understanding of positive self worth. Go back to school, find a better job, set up a savings / retirement account. Do not permit your husband to continue to erode who you are. Make you the priority again, it's the best gift you will give your children this holiday season. You have a fighting spirit as evidenced by your speaking out about the injustice, but your focus is on the wrong thing. If the doctor did wrong report her and put that behind you and start working on the real issues.
wife

Dover, NH

#54 Nov 16, 2014
The fact that you are trying to make the doctors free choices and my husband's free choices sound like my psychological defect is twisted and sick. I'm sure you think rape victims were "asking for it." I feel far more raped and violated by this situation than anyone could imagine. And unlike the doctor or my husband who had a free will to participate with full knowledge of all the factors, unlike me, since they didn't stop and ask me - hey- you know, are you cool with being lied to, and you know, getting texts at home from 4 AM until God knows when and with all the other crap that went on? Get counseling because other people made scumbag choices that caused a great deal of harm???? I had a family with children. Very simplistic and moronic view even though I think that Jesus Christ would have benefitted from counseling and I wholly support it.
He helped us

South Burlington, VT

#55 Nov 16, 2014
wife wrote:
The fact that you are trying to make the doctors free choices and my husband's free choices sound like my psychological defect is twisted and sick. I'm sure you think rape victims were "asking for it." I feel far more raped and violated by this situation than anyone could imagine. And unlike the doctor or my husband who had a free will to participate with full knowledge of all the factors, unlike me, since they didn't stop and ask me - hey- you know, are you cool with being lied to, and you know, getting texts at home from 4 AM until God knows when and with all the other crap that went on? Get counseling because other people made scumbag choices that caused a great deal of harm???? I had a family with children. Very simplistic and moronic view even though I think that Jesus Christ would have benefitted from counseling and I wholly support it.
I'm on your side here, not sure why you are spitting venom my way. I'm just trying to help you ready yourself for the inevitable impact of what is headed right for you. I understand intimately the "violation" you talk about. My father tossed my mother to the curb after 50 years of marriage because she became too physically Ill to serve his purpose any longer. He announced one day that he was engaged to another more intelligent and virtues Christian women and then he got in his truck and drove away. It was then we discovered that he had changed all their account passwords, changed mailing addresses (even with her S.S.) claimed divorce with with pensions / retirement, changed title information, emptied bank accounts, purchased jewelry and property for his new love and bailed her out of debt......I could go on and on. My father was an abusive person, treated my mother as dumber and second class. She loved him, stood by him, hone red her vows in spite of his behavior only to be abandoned at 74yrs old.
I wish you well.
Friend of the wife

Norwich, CT

#56 Nov 20, 2014
Samantha says: "I accidently got involved with a married man. It's not my fault, it's all his fault, afterall he's the one who is married. I accidently texted 12000 times at all hours of the day. No, actually the phone texted all by itself. It's definitely not my fault. I'm not accountable in any way for any of the choices I made participating destroying a family and I didn't know any better anyway. They dont teach you how to be a decent person in medical school, and if its not a paying patient, I have no obligation not to cause harm after I leave my office at five. It's just something I do to make a living, but I don't actually LIVE that way." What a hypocrite. Yeah, I agree the husband is a worse scumbag than Samantha, so she ought to feel pretty damn special. Way to go.
Friend of the wife

Norwich, CT

#57 Nov 20, 2014
Samantha wants to add something: " no wait! I have it! It's the wife's fault for allowing herself to be treated that way and permitting her husband to lie to her.. Yeah that's it. It's the wife's fault. She must be sick. they must have had an awful marriage loaded with problems. She made me send all those texts and emails and she was such a bitch that her husband and i had no choice but to sneak around behind her back. Yeah., that's it. There was like no way anyone could have been honest at the get go or that he couldn't have just left her from the start. That wouldn't have been right. Its Much better to End a relationship in a traumatic deceitful way by being caught in an affair. much healthier for the wife and kids. she might learn something and become a better person.It's her fault she didn't keep her husband and me from sneaking around. What am I supposed to do about that? I shouldn't be expected to have personal standards if I'm having fun."
As The Whirled Churns

United States

#58 Nov 20, 2014
so this is the trailer park trash soap opera thread
Wife

Dover, NH

#59 Nov 24, 2014
@ He helped us : I heard narcicism has a genetic component. Just want you to know because narcicists don't always see themselves with much objectivity, and there is a continuum of neurotic personality disorders. I don't think you should extrapolate and personalize every situation. you're middle aged, and you're still describing yourself as an adult child of xxxxxxx, and you want to point out my problems? Yes your father sounds like an ass, a lot like my husband. But the lady he hooked up with doesnt sound like a class act either. She doesn't get a pass from me for being part of a situation that introduced a great deal of misery and anxiety to your poor mother. Really? Who should think your dad is a catch after all that? And what kind of person wants to start out their new love relationship like that? "i loved him" absolves everyone from their bad choices? Sick. Karma is a B!t<h. calling it a day. Peace.
Wife

Dover, NH

#60 Nov 24, 2014
@ He helped us: OH, Give my love to your lovely new step-mom. I'm sure you'll be inviting the lucky new couple to your house for thanksgiving, where there won't be any ill feelings and you all will be singing kum-ba-ya with your mom, because your mom has no right to be upset at these events, and she now has your selfless insight to work on HER. Just gives me chills. Happy Holidays, I'm off to the counselor now to achieve the holy nirvana of which you speak.
Friend of the wife

New York, NY

#61 Dec 4, 2014
He helped us wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand intimately the "violation" you talk about. My father tossed my mother to the curb after 50 years of marriage....... It was then we discovered that he had changed all their account passwords, changed mailing addresses (even with her S.S.) claimed divorce with with pensions / retirement, changed title information, emptied bank accounts, et al
Who would have thunk that a man capable of lying on a grand scale and carrying on a double life would have continued to show poor character and sneakily taken what legally was due his very sick wife's after fifty years to leave her near penniless. I'm shocked, just shocked, that liars and cheaters would play so unfairly. We should laud those who lie and cheat, and those who lie and cheat with them, for the outstanding acts of compassion toward one another and commitment to alleviate the suffering of the human condition.

The good thing is your mother is out from under that jerk. That seriously is a gift. But I predict it was extremely traumatizing to her nonetheless. Praise Buddha.
Wife

Dover, NH

#62 Dec 11, 2014
To samantha and my husband: Normal people understand the fundamental concepts of respect, honesty and kindness. No adult should need to be told how they are making other people feel, especially a doctor or my husband. no one older than 15 should have to be told that 12000 texts and 4am almost every single day of the week is over the line. Get your own husband, get it on together and leave me honestly, or freaking grow a pair and grow up.
Friend of Wife

Norwich, CT

#63 Dec 13, 2014
A Florida couple receiving “unrelenting” phone calls from Bank of America was awarded more than $1 million from a federal judge.

Nelson and Joyce Coniglio received 700 collection calls from the bank over a four year period, the New York Post reports.

“They treated us very badly,” Nelson told the Post.“No two ways about it.”

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