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Wally World

Brattleboro, VT

#1 May 28, 2013
I go across the river to the Hinsdale Walmart a couple of times a year. And, I'm always stunned at the obesity there! Yes, Americans are very fat period, but the shoppers there, compared to local grocery stores, places like Staples and etc? Very clearly much fatter on average.

I don't get it, why?
Here is why

Claremont, NH

#2 May 28, 2013
Eating right is expensive and for some difficult to learn, and when you are poor, booze and junk food are the only luxuries you can afford.

It really is a public health crisis, unfortunately jerks like you are not helping by posting hateful comments on message boards to inflate your fragile ego by cutting someone else down.

Demographically, poor people tend toward obesity because they lack the money, skills and sadly, often the desire to eat healthy, in part because of jerks like you.

Demonizing them for being less fortunate doesn't help and just makes you look like an a$$.
Strolling through

Brattleboro, VT

#5 May 28, 2013
Here is why wrote:
Eating right is expensive and for some difficult to learn, and when you are poor, booze and junk food are the only luxuries you can afford.
It really is a public health crisis, unfortunately jerks like you are not helping by posting hateful comments on message boards to inflate your fragile ego by cutting someone else down.
Demographically, poor people tend toward obesity because they lack the money, skills and sadly, often the desire to eat healthy, in part because of jerks like you.
Demonizing them for being less fortunate doesn't help and just makes you look like an a$$.
Oh good grief, it was an honest question. Perhaps the title was sophomoric, but the content was more high brow than your defensive spittle spewing reply!

But a great irony of this health issue, is in general those who often could use the most support in healthy living an choices? They are the folks who get suckered into voting in their own worst interests.
Joe

Chester, VT

#6 May 28, 2013
eating right is cheap

microwave food is exspensive, they are too lazy to cook.
flat lander

United States

#7 May 28, 2013
New law should make Walmart build 3 story stores with no elevators or moving stairs. First floor drugs and personal items, second floor all the plastic crap and the third floor for cheetos and etc.
Please

Claremont, NH

#8 May 28, 2013
Strolling through wrote:
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Oh good grief, it was an honest question. Perhaps the title was sophomoric, but the content was more high brow than your defensive spittle spewing reply!
But a great irony of this health issue, is in general those who often could use the most support in healthy living an choices? They are the folks who get suckered into voting in their own worst interests.
Your "honest" question began with a pretty hateful slur that was more than just "sophomoric". Mean spirited name calling is no way to begin a civil discussion about the many victims of a devastating public health crisis.
Reality

Claremont, NH

#9 May 28, 2013
Joe wrote:
eating right is cheap
microwave food is exspensive, they are too lazy to cook.
No, it is not cheap. Most people resort to a lot of ramen noodles, rice and whatever happens to be at the food pantry.

Wanna know what it's like to eat on $4.00 a day?

I suggest you step up and take the Food Stamp Challenge:

http://frac.org/initiatives/snapfood-stamp-ch...

..."he Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) makes a difference in the lives of millions of Americans across the country, but in many cases, the benefits received are too low to allow families to purchase enough nutritious food and to feed their families healthy meals on a consistent basis. After paying for housing, energy and health care expenses, many low-income households have little or no money remaining to spend on food without food stamp benefits. In addition, most food stamp households report that their benefits do not last the entire month. Many are forced to turn to food pantries and soup kitchens."

..."The SNAP Challenge gives participants a view of what life can be like for millions of low-income Americans. Most participants take the Challenge for one week, living on the average daily food stamp benefit (about $4 per person per day). Challenge participants find they have to make difficult food shopping choices, and often realize how difficult it is to avoid hunger, afford nutritious foods, and stay healthy."...
Wally World

Brattleboro, VT

#10 May 28, 2013
Yep, the "fatties" comment was indeed sophomoric (repeat this admission to yourself 5x, see if it sinks in).

But this health crisis is a storm we have all contributed to. As happens to most empires at some point, laziness and hedonism have taken charge. TV and the internet are the new Gladiator Games. Rome in its last days.

Its not like this happens to *some* empires, it happens to ALL empires. The only variants are skin color, language and technology.

But, I suspect you believe its "everybody ELSE" who has created this crisis. Not you. Right?
Reality

Claremont, NH

#11 May 28, 2013
Wally World wrote:
Yep, the "fatties" comment was indeed sophomoric (repeat this admission to yourself 5x, see if it sinks in).
But this health crisis is a storm we have all contributed to. As happens to most empires at some point, laziness and hedonism have taken charge. TV and the internet are the new Gladiator Games. Rome in its last days.
Its not like this happens to *some* empires, it happens to ALL empires. The only variants are skin color, language and technology.
But, I suspect you believe its "everybody ELSE" who has created this crisis. Not you. Right?
It was a mean spirited comment.

Yes, we all have contributed to this crisis, some, like you, more than others, but some of us are not ready to throw in the towel and give up on our society like you.

I am optimistic that we can help each other through this with education and compassion instead of spreading unhelpful demonizing lies.

It is not "laziness and hedonism" that bring down civilizations, it is greed, fear and dehumanizing lies.

We all could do more and I for one am choosing right now to not be a defeatist. I am here having a public discussion, trying to raise awareness of this serious problem.

What exactly is it that your doing?
Wally World

Brattleboro, VT

#12 May 28, 2013
Wow, you make a lot of assumptions regarding my motivations. You must have a strong neck to hold that ego up!

Anyways "What exactly is it that your (I'm) doing?" Well, I was just rambling some. But now I'm having fun throwing out cheap bait and watching you scramble self-righteously to attack it.
Reality

Claremont, NH

#13 May 28, 2013
Wally World wrote:
Wow, you make a lot of assumptions regarding my motivations. You must have a strong neck to hold that ego up!
Anyways "What exactly is it that your (I'm) doing?" Well, I was just rambling some. But now I'm having fun throwing out cheap bait and watching you scramble self-righteously to attack it.
So basically your just trolling, how unsurprisingly unhelpful.

Believe it or not trying to effect positive change in our society is indeed righteous and a lot more rewarding than being a sorry little internet troll.

Your just attacking yourself.
Joe

Chester, VT

#14 May 28, 2013
Reality wrote:
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Wanna know what it's like to eat on $4.00 a day?
."...
I probably do eat on $4.00 a day.

People eat like it's the 1800's when people worked hard all day. 2 lite meals is plenty for modern times for most people.

Spare me the myth,folklore and fairy tales, I have 2 eyes and can see what people buy and also watch people eat way too much at a time. They eat like staving animals worried they might not be getting another meal anytime soon.
Reality

Claremont, NH

#15 May 28, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
I probably do eat on $4.00 a day.
People eat like it's the 1800's when people worked hard all day. 2 lite meals is plenty for modern times for most people.
Spare me the myth,folklore and fairy tales, I have 2 eyes and can see what people buy and also watch people eat way too much at a time. They eat like staving animals worried they might not be getting another meal anytime soon.
I doubt it, if you did eat on $4.00 a day, you would not have any doubt about it.

Are you surprised that malnourished people who regularly don't have enough money for food are worried they might not be getting another meal anytime soon?

Your 2 eyes do not an unbiased scientific study make. The good people at the Food Research Action Center however have it in spades: http://frac.org/initiatives/hunger-and-obesit...

Try educating yourself and becoming part of the solution instead of misguidedly blaming the victims.
Joe

Chester, VT

#16 May 29, 2013
Reality wrote:
<quoted text>
I doubt it, if you did eat on $4.00 a day, you would not have any doubt about it.
Are you surprised that malnourished people who regularly don't have enough money for food are worried they might not be getting another meal anytime soon?
Your 2 eyes do not an unbiased scientific study make. The good people at the Food Research Action Center however have it in spades: http://frac.org/initiatives/hunger-and-obesit...
Try educating yourself and becoming part of the solution instead of misguidedly blaming the victims.
burgers cost like $1.00
grilled cheeze sandwich even less
eggs are cheap
chicken is cheap
banana's are cheap
pasta is cheap
canned tomato's are cheap
potato's are cheap
flour is cheap

There is no such thing as a unbiased scientific study. Why anyone would believe anythign that comes out of yuppies mouths at this point is beyond me considering their track record of lying about everything.
We have a new industry in this country, the suffering industry and millions of people making money off other peoples suffering and lots of them getting federal grants to do studies. The victims advocates are milking suffering industry jobs.

Reality is I grew up near a housing project and people weren't fat in the 60's and 70's like they are today.
All anyone has to do is look at todays grocery stores, 3 isle of freezer cases full of lazy people food. Fat people walk right threw the produce section and buy nothing. Ask anyone who has worked in a grocery store what kind of junk people eat.

A real study would be getting our hands on peoples customers cards and a printout from the grocery store about their shopping habits and method of payment.

a nation feed with high fructose corn syrup is a fat nation. Poor people around the world aren't fat, poor americans are fat because they are too lazy to cook and eat way too much.
Just because food stamps is $4.00 a day doesn't mean they have no other way of getting additional food.
Reality

Claremont, NH

#17 May 29, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text>
burgers cost like $1.00
grilled cheeze sandwich even less
eggs are cheap
chicken is cheap
banana's are cheap
pasta is cheap
canned tomato's are cheap
potato's are cheap
flour is cheap
There is no such thing as a unbiased scientific study. Why anyone would believe anythign that comes out of yuppies mouths at this point is beyond me considering their track record of lying about everything.
We have a new industry in this country, the suffering industry and millions of people making money off other peoples suffering and lots of them getting federal grants to do studies. The victims advocates are milking suffering industry jobs.
Reality is I grew up near a housing project and people weren't fat in the 60's and 70's like they are today.
All anyone has to do is look at todays grocery stores, 3 isle of freezer cases full of lazy people food. Fat people walk right threw the produce section and buy nothing. Ask anyone who has worked in a grocery store what kind of junk people eat.
A real study would be getting our hands on peoples customers cards and a printout from the grocery store about their shopping habits and method of payment.
a nation feed with high fructose corn syrup is a fat nation. Poor people around the world aren't fat, poor americans are fat because they are too lazy to cook and eat way too much.
Just because food stamps is $4.00 a day doesn't mean they have no other way of getting additional food.
Healthy food is not cheap and poor people don't live on frozen dinners, but you would know that if you had bothered to research this problem instead of just making up your own facts.

I would be willing to bet you would not make a single month eating on $4.00 a day.

Ignoring the actual science by dismissing it as just a bunch of dishonest yuppies making money off other peoples suffering is not helpful.

Reality is that your misguided dismissal and assumptions which somehow allow you to blame the victims of this epidemic and label them as "lazy" only speaks to your own intellectual laziness and intellectual dishonesty.

Yes, all too often the $4.00 a day food stamps provide is indeed the only way some people have of getting food, you are just choosing not to believe it because it doesn't fit fit your blame the victim delusion.

People like you who make up their own facts to fit a set of flawed, misanthropic assumptions are part of the problem.

Go educate yourself with the links above and become part of the solution, believe me, you will be much happier for it.
Joe Shlabotnik

White River Junction, VT

#18 May 29, 2013
Only I alone am responsible for what I eat.
Joe

Chester, VT

#19 May 29, 2013
http://frac.org/reports-and-resources/food-ha...

http://frac.org/reports-and-resources/cost-of...

http://frac.org/pdf/half_empty_plate_dec2011....

brattleboro isn't a food desert and the whole thing goes on about peoples opinion of produce availablity which doesn't apply to most of the population that is obese, they shop at full line grocery stores and buy corn syrup products and all sorts of mystery food.

I deal with math, not emotional hysteria or hype by special interest goups.

I clinked on the links looking for the shopping list that showed the numbers and all I saw was polling results so I searched the internet

http://www.takepart.com/video/buying-better-l...

3 meals a day ?? at least they showed what the money can buy unlike the the suffering industry trying to whip up emotional hysteria.

"Eating more cheaply is very time consuming," he told Yahoo! Shine. "I became really aware of how much time it takes to prepare food if you want to be both on a budget and be healthy."
http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/snap-fo...

how many people on SNAP also get other food from free school lunchs, the food bank, soup kitchens ?

people could buy chicken and noodles and make their own chicken soup and freeze portions of it and make lots of other things and freeze portions. But it's too much like work.

http://www.oregonlive.com/foodday/index.ssf/2...

the comments are priceless.

The opions of a bunch of spoiled rich americans about not being able to eat on $4.00 a day are worthless.
Reality

Claremont, NH

#20 May 29, 2013
Continuing to blame the victims of this epidemic while choosing to ignore the actual reference source cited science is nothing BUT hype and emotional hysteria.

http://frac.org/initiatives/hunger-and-obesit...

I might add that the opinions of people who, unlike you, have actually tried to eat on $4.00 a day are infinitely more valuable and helpful than your obstinate, hate them for being lazy without any good evidence approach.
Joe Shlabotnik

White River Junction, VT

#21 May 29, 2013
Reality wrote:
Continuing to blame the victims of this epidemic while choosing to ignore the actual reference source cited science is nothing BUT hype and emotional hysteria.
http://frac.org/initiatives/hunger-and-obesit...
I might add that the opinions of people who, unlike you, have actually tried to eat on $4.00 a day are infinitely more valuable and helpful than your obstinate, hate them for being lazy without any good evidence approach.
He is a "victim" of a different epidemic. It is not his fault, anymore than it is the fault of those who choose not to eat a healthy diet, or those who smoke.
None of us is really responsible for our situation I suppose, and we need not take responsibility to change or correct it.
Reality

Claremont, NH

#22 May 29, 2013
Joe Shlabotnik wrote:
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He is a "victim" of a different epidemic. It is not his fault, anymore than it is the fault of those who choose not to eat a healthy diet, or those who smoke.
None of us is really responsible for our situation I suppose, and we need not take responsibility to change or correct it.
Yea, sarcasm really isn't very helpful either, all your doing is making yourself look like an a$$.

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