Jobs key, but Minnesota gubernatorial...

Jobs key, but Minnesota gubernatorial candidates differ on creating...

There are 62 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Aug 17, 2010, titled Jobs key, but Minnesota gubernatorial candidates differ on creating.... In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Minnesota's three leading candidates for governor outlined competing visions for how to create jobs during a debate here Tuesday before some of the state's business leaders.

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Since: Oct 09

Former MN Taxpayer

#24 Aug 18, 2010
Soothsayer wrote:
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His family created something decades ago and now mark deserves a legacy vote? You sound like another doltish, koolaid drinking liberal; america the great! The guy has never held a real job in his life, has a chemical dependancy issues, was named the worst senator by newsweek...and now he's suddenly been transformed into a suitable candidate for govenor? Truly, what color is the sky in your world?
You are so wrong. Mr. Dayton was a school teacher. He has been elected to state office and national office before. His foundations employ hundreds and are well known for helping those that are in need.

As for the personal issues you bring up, I think this shows his character and ability to overcome adversity. He has faced down the demons and still is charging ahead full steam.

By far, Mr. Dayton is the most intelligent and articulate person running for Governor. And the most deserving because he cares for all Minnesotans, not just the ones that are rich.

I want my Governor to make sure the rich are not able to continue stealing money from the poor, and he needs to take care of those in need. Mr. Dayton is the only one committed to that task.
John Lenin

Saint Paul, MN

#25 Aug 18, 2010
Income tax and all taxes will be increased, All the rates in between will also rise. Bumps, fees & fines for you WORKING IDIOTS. You must enjoy !
Animal Lover

Fargo, ND

#26 Aug 18, 2010
More education? You could give EVERY school district in Minnesota a trillion dollars and it still would not be enough. VOTE FOR EMMER!!!!!!!!!!
JP - St Paul

West Hartford, CT

#27 Aug 18, 2010
FL Guy wrote:
Has Dayton lost his mind? Spend more on education? We spend way too much as it is today and are actually over-educated, yes we have too much education.
I disagree. Knowledge is power. And we are losing our post secondary education advantage over other western nations, India, and China. Education alone will not solve all of our problems. But new jobs have to come from innovation. The jobs we lost to China are not coming back. We need to come up with new products and services that the rest of the world needs. Educations will drive that creativity, engineering, and marketing of American innovation.
And you are right that I am certain there are still places in our education where we can reduce costs. Health coverage and transportation costs in education are way too high.
JP - St Paul

West Hartford, CT

#28 Aug 18, 2010
Apologies for the grammatical errors in my previous post.
Soothsayer

Saint Paul, MN

#29 Aug 18, 2010
IrishMN wrote:
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You are so wrong. Mr. Dayton was a school teacher. He has been elected to state office and national office before. His foundations employ hundreds and are well known for helping those that are in need.
As for the personal issues you bring up, I think this shows his character and ability to overcome adversity. He has faced down the demons and still is charging ahead full steam.
By far, Mr. Dayton is the most intelligent and articulate person running for Governor. And the most deserving because he cares for all Minnesotans, not just the ones that are rich.
I want my Governor to make sure the rich are not able to continue stealing money from the poor, and he needs to take care of those in need. Mr. Dayton is the only one committed to that task.
Let's start out with something easy, the working poor pay virtually zero income tax. If we keep treat businesses as the enemy, we're gonna end up like california. How many jobs have you been offered from a poor person? Your judgement regarding dayton's intellectual capacity is troubling, especially if you're serious! He is a trust fund baby, who has been handed everything in life. He is the prototypical limousine liberal. The only true adversity that he's faced was self induced. He is a coward, he proved it while a US senator. The only mechanism that he can use to become is to foster the class envy issue. His suit is as empty as his head.
Wahoo McDaniel

Rochester, MN

#30 Aug 18, 2010
"Emmer suggested Dayton was beholden to the unions that have endorsed him."

(Dayton) And he reminded Emmer, "The teachers union spent the last several months trying to defeat me." (Education Minnesota originally endorsed Margaret Anderson Kelliher, whom Dayton defeated in the DFL primary. The teachers union last week endorsed Dayton.)

Wow! What a great memory Tom Emmer has! He thinks Dayton is owned by the Teacher's Union that tried to defeat him up until the recent primary?

What's clouding your memory Tom?

Are you drinking and driving again, Tom?
Freedom Lover

Minneapolis, MN

#31 Aug 18, 2010
Smell the Coffee wrote:
Fools have to be stopped and the foolish have to realize that tax and spend will only drag Minnesota further down the rat hole of no recovery. The foolish have to stop voting for the liberal fools that want to tax and spend. At some point in time there has to be some one bright enough to be able to put together a state budget without increasing taxes and stick to it, Dayton and his liberal following have demonstrated time and again they lack the intelligence to do that. If the Minnesota voters vote in Democratic liberals to lead this state for another four years, it is all over.
WHATEVER DO YOU MEAN??? Look at how robustly Detroit is, umm, oh, cancel this.
Freedom Lover

Minneapolis, MN

#32 Aug 18, 2010
JP - St Paul wrote:
Apologies for the grammatical errors in my previous post.
Are you one of those unemployable English Majors? If not, no need to apologize.
Freedom Lover

Minneapolis, MN

#33 Aug 18, 2010
IrishMN wrote:
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You are so wrong. Mr. Dayton was a school teacher. He has been elected to state office and national office before. His foundations employ hundreds and are well known for helping those that are in need.
As for the personal issues you bring up, I think this shows his character and ability to overcome adversity. He has faced down the demons and still is charging ahead full steam.
By far, Mr. Dayton is the most intelligent and articulate person running for Governor. And the most deserving because he cares for all Minnesotans, not just the ones that are rich.
I want my Governor to make sure the rich are not able to continue stealing money from the poor, and he needs to take care of those in need. Mr. Dayton is the only one committed to that task.
Your first paragraph says everything, Democrats live by creating cycles of dependence. Once they've done that they just play groups against one another.
Soothsayer

Saint Paul, MN

#34 Aug 18, 2010
Wahoo McDaniel wrote:
"Emmer suggested Dayton was beholden to the unions that have endorsed him."
(Dayton) And he reminded Emmer, "The teachers union spent the last several months trying to defeat me." (Education Minnesota originally endorsed Margaret Anderson Kelliher, whom Dayton defeated in the DFL primary. The teachers union last week endorsed Dayton.)
Wow! What a great memory Tom Emmer has! He thinks Dayton is owned by the Teacher's Union that tried to defeat him up until the recent primary?
What's clouding your memory Tom?
Are you drinking and driving again, Tom?
I'll take a leap of faith and say that the NEA types will throw a little capital empty headed mark's way...to perpetuate their monopoly on education. Can't have competition because that breed quality, right?
Riot

Madison, WI

#35 Aug 18, 2010
Does anyone know how long Dayton was a "teacher"? I'd like to know the truth about that. The unions just moved on over to Dayton, I'd like to know what campaigning they did against Dayton, did anyone see any of that? Dayton didn't run during the primaries so to say the Unions supported someone else and were against him and ran something against him there is no proof of that. Enough of trying to cloud the air with this type of garbage. Dayton is owned by everyone else, he has never earned a wage, HE IS A TRUST FUND RECEPIENT. I'd like to know more about where this fund is, if it is not in Minnesota then why not? He wants to tax everyone else but doesn't even keep his money in MN? There is something very wrong with that.
YEA

Philadelphia, PA

#36 Aug 18, 2010
Intelligent Adult wrote:
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His family founded a company which now has 350,000 employees and has been integral in developing the high quality of life in this state - economically and culturally.
Too bad you don't notice or appreciate why things are the way they are.
The reason Dayton isn't helping run that business is because he is too stupid, and he is too stupid to be governor of our state. Remember he failed as State Auditor and he failed as a Senator. His track record is horrible. How can anyone even consider him for governor is completely insane or they have a short memory and don't remember all of his failures. Lets also remember he left his dogs in the car when it was 90 degrees.
newz2me

Saint Paul, MN

#37 Aug 18, 2010
What I heard:

Dayton - tax rich guys, get folks smarter. As part of Dayton's\Target\B Dalton, the only one who actually had a part in creating any jobs.

Emmer - Cut State government?? Sure - he was a big part of the Pawlenty crew that increased the size\cost of state government 8 years running.

Horner - Former Republican, and current PR guy, has several very good catch phrases, and nothing behind them.
shenanigans

Minneapolis, MN

#38 Aug 18, 2010
"Line by line" to cut out waste from the budget. Hmmm... where have we heard that line of "hope and change" before???
Surprisingly, Emmer sounds to be the most logical in this 3 way fiasco. However, if its all RINO talk and no substance like his predecessor, well, I don't see the wheels hitting the pavement with his rhetoric.
Horner sounds as bad or worse than Dayton. He's deep into the pockets of many businesses and unions, so who knows what to expect from him. Tax relief for the rich and taxing things like clothing that will affect the poorest people sounds like "trickle down and snatch away" economics. What a fascist!
A "choice" of who will do the least damage is what it boils down to yet again. This is horrible.
Sam

Saint Paul, MN

#40 Aug 18, 2010
Disgruntled Outstater wrote:
Dayton's plan creates workers, not jobs. Better education for all simply creates a more well educated unemployed class.
We need to create a product that we sell to people somewhere else.
Dayton's well educated work force will leave Minnesota to go where the jobs are. We will pay to educate them and another state will benefit.
Sam

Saint Paul, MN

#41 Aug 18, 2010
newz2me wrote:
What I heard:
Dayton - tax rich guys, get folks smarter. As part of Dayton's\Target\B Dalton, the only one who actually had a part in creating any jobs.
Emmer - Cut State government?? Sure - he was a big part of the Pawlenty crew that increased the size\cost of state government 8 years running.
Horner - Former Republican, and current PR guy, has several very good catch phrases, and nothing behind them.
Exactly how did Mark Dayton create any jobs as part of Dayton's/Target/B Dalton as you claim? He never worked for the company, only takes their money.
Sam

Saint Paul, MN

#42 Aug 18, 2010
Riot wrote:
Does anyone know how long Dayton was a "teacher"? I'd like to know the truth about that. The unions just moved on over to Dayton, I'd like to know what campaigning they did against Dayton, did anyone see any of that? Dayton didn't run during the primaries so to say the Unions supported someone else and were against him and ran something against him there is no proof of that. Enough of trying to cloud the air with this type of garbage. Dayton is owned by everyone else, he has never earned a wage, HE IS A TRUST FUND RECEPIENT. I'd like to know more about where this fund is, if it is not in Minnesota then why not? He wants to tax everyone else but doesn't even keep his money in MN? There is something very wrong with that.
Mark Dayton was a teacher for 1 year and only because he was dodging the draft. Yes he is a coward.
Sam

Saint Paul, MN

#43 Aug 18, 2010
IrishMN wrote:
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You are so wrong. Mr. Dayton was a school teacher. He has been elected to state office and national office before. His foundations employ hundreds and are well known for helping those that are in need.
As for the personal issues you bring up, I think this shows his character and ability to overcome adversity. He has faced down the demons and still is charging ahead full steam.
By far, Mr. Dayton is the most intelligent and articulate person running for Governor. And the most deserving because he cares for all Minnesotans, not just the ones that are rich.
I want my Governor to make sure the rich are not able to continue stealing money from the poor, and he needs to take care of those in need. Mr. Dayton is the only one committed to that task.
Teaching is not a real job. You are still on the public dole. He was only a teacher for two years and only because he was too much of a coward to serve his country in Vietnam. Just like he was the only Senator to close his office because being a coward. Just what we need, Governor "chicken little".
Great American Debate

Fargo, ND

#44 Aug 18, 2010
Animal Lover wrote:
More education? You could give EVERY school district in Minnesota a trillion dollars and it still would not be enough. VOTE FOR EMMER!!!!!!!!!!
Actually, Emmer and his supporters are not necessarily telling the truth about money and education. Truth is, the poorest school districts in the country tend to provide the least amount of education to its students, and this trend, by the way, has been studied for more than 40 years. Money might not help Minneapolis, but the lack of money does hurt kids.

Second, again Emmer and his supporters don't tell the truth about this either, there are several things that schools need to improve upon. Curriculum is one of them. Longer school days is another. Frankly, there's too much decentralization of public schools. Teachers are a part of it, but certainly not to the degree Emmer and Pawlenty say they are, and honestly, we need more outstanding minority teachers. We just don't have enough of them. Parents also play a role, and if I were governor, I'd find some way to fine parents whose children are failing. Parents respond to fines, especially if the money is drawn directly out of their accounts.

Third, and this is where Emmer is particularly short sighted. Minneapolis has some dangerous neighborhoods and some entrenched gangs. No matter how much money you toss Minneapolis, if you don't clean out the gangs (note, not the money) the students will not learn. Nobody learns in an environment where threat and intimidation is the norm, where students believe the only way to make it is to break the law. Just ask Detroit, St Louis, and Chicago. There is a severe criminally entrenched problem afflicting Minneapolis, and no matter how much money you cut or teachers you fire, that won't change until Minneapolis is a safe place to live.

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