Hamline pursues MBA seekers

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Hamline University was expected to announce plans today to form a business school and launch a major push for master's of business administration students.
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Alex Dogwood

Europe

#21 Nov 13, 2010
An MBA is really only as good as the student that receives it. Yeah my GMAT scores were not the best. I could not have made it into U of M's 80k program. I could have made it into a few others. I chose Hamline for the 1 day a week 20 month commitment. My company paid for it so no big deal. I agree the U's program is well known and ranked but I have known some dirt bags that have graduated from that program. You can be credentialed out the yang but an idiot is an idiot. An MBA is designed to give you a toolbox of knowledge to pull from. An MBA is not a path paved with gold to corporate bliss. It is all about what you do with it when you get it. As someone who hires people I do not really give a rip what school you went to I care that YOU PERFORM. If you do the math I guarantee you my accredited MBA from Hamline will give me the same returns that a U of M degree will. THe WOW factor will not be there but so what. Guess what... not everyone can get into those program and this provides those the opportunity to pursue a Masters. It is a new program the professors could use some work. Some were very good others were not. I am sure you can say the same for any other school. It is like buying a Mercedes vs. a Hyundai they both will do the same thing for you. Both will get you where want to go. The difference is one costs more than the other and all of your other idiot friends that actually care that you drive a nice expensive Mercedes will think that somehow you are a better person because of it. If you can get into the U of M GO FOR IT! If you cannot Hamline will be your Hyundai of MBA's and you will def. take something from it.
AAA

River Falls, WI

#22 Jan 6, 2011
The University of Wisconsin River Falls offers an AACSB accredited bachelors and MBA at their Hudson center -- twenty minutes from downtown St. Paul. Very affordable. Excellent program
Alex

Minneapolis, MN

#23 Jan 6, 2011
I couldn't agree more with Alex Dogwood (above).
There are 15-20+ MBA options in the Twin Cities. Hundreds of MBA graduates are produced by programs not named UST or U of M each year.

I think it's safe to say many of those non UST and U of M grads are doing quite well.

Clearly those two programs are the benchmarks in the Twin Cities, and UST recently obtained AACSB accreditation. It's now official.

But there are countless MBA programs around the U.S. that are not AACSB accredited. Some are only accredited in the sense that the institutional accrediting body has approved it. But others are accredited by ACBSP.

Most people and employers know little about either accrediting body, but you should pursue the most credentialed program you can afford and gain admission into.

AACSB accredited in MN:
UST
U of M - Carlson School
St. Cloud St.(now in Maple Grove)
U of M - Duluth (in Duluth and Rochester)

ACBSP accredited in MN:
Concordia, St. Paul (online MBA)
*Augsburg College - formal candidate for ACBSP

Unless someone can update me, there are no other AACSB or ACBSP accredited MBA programs in the state of the remaining 10-15 out there.
Annonymous

Inver Grove Heights, MN

#24 Aug 5, 2011
I am currently finishing up my third module of Hamline's MBA program. The program for the most part is pretty good and would recommend it to anyone wanting to get their MBA. I do however feel the selection process is not rigorous enough and can set people up for failure. Seeing how the program is an accelerated program, the courses are short which means a LOT of material is crammed into each night's class. A good portion of the professors have previously taught at Carlson, St. Thomas, Concordia, etc. so they do know what they are doing. Whether they teach at Hamline or Carlson, what they teach and the knowledge they possess is basically the same. Other professors also teach at Hamline's law school and were/are practicing business lawyers so they too are very knowledgeable. A downside to the program is the lack of concentrations. They don't have a marketing concentration which is something us students find very odd. How can you have an MBA program without a concentration in marketing? Granted there is a lot of marketing being taught, but there is still no concentration. The program is overall fairly good and I can say I have learned a LOT about business and feel the program is worth the time and money. My employer has even made comments of how much better employee I have become saying my business knowledge has improved and my confidence level is noticeably higher in meetings.

P.S. I know this is one paragraph and there are grammatical errors, but I was trying to cut down on the number of characters I used. And I've been writing papers left and right, the last thing I need to do is proofread another paper!!!
mike

Saint Cloud, MN

#25 Oct 4, 2012
There is no golden ticket to success.

Unless you can go for free or go to a top school or have an employer pay for it, an MBA is a horrible degree. Yes, you'll learn quite a bit. Yes, there are some good professors. So what. 98% of what you learn about business at an MBA program like Hamline's can be learned for 10 dollars in overage charges at a decent public library. Check out U-dacity. Learn marketing and finance for your business elsewhere.

Minnesota is crawling with predatory graduate schools. 3 of the law schools are HIGHLY overpriced. Nearly every graduate program is. But it's a weak economy and 24 year olds feel they need more education to stand out. Older students, often deprived of a decent education in their youth, feel a degree can make up for lost time. They think there is a golden ticket to success. It's not incurring debt, my friend. No. William Mitchell, Hamline Law, St. Thomas Law, Hamline MBA... all these programs are worth no more than $150 per credit hour. Each charge about 4 times that. Never forget student loans are non-dischargable. They will follow you until you die. They can ruin your spouse's life too. Never forget that there already too many attorneys in MN, only 10% of which make big money. The rest are making around 50k. It's worse for MBAs. Never forget only 1 in 4000 MBA graduates becomes a top CEO, about the same odds as a local high school basketball player making the NBA. It's not going to happen. You need to find another way to value success and achieve career goals.
Koco

Phoenix, AZ

#26 Jan 26, 2013
Brian in Minneapolis MN wrote:
I attended the Hamline MBA for a semester.DONT WASTE YOUR TIME AND MONEY.If you want a credible program,look for a school that is AACSB accredited-The international premier accrediting body for business schools.Only 4 schools in the entire state of Minnesota have achieved his accredatation
University of Minnesota( Carlson School)
University of Minnesota(Duluth)
Minnesota state university(Mankato)
Saint Cloud state University
Research on schools before you waste yor money
As an alum, I completely agree with you, Mary, and some of the others. I find it interesting that there is someone out there who "Judged" your comments with the red disagree X.

This is not the place to go for your MBA. Alum from the first class of the MBA program. Had I known then what I know now, I NEVER would have enrolled!
Koco

Phoenix, AZ

#27 Jan 26, 2013
Chris wrote:
First off Hamline is accredited, so I have no Idea what all these haters are talking about. The only reason it doesn't require the gmat is because it needs students for the new program. I went there because I had already went there for my undergrad and I actually liked it. Some of the professors are a little different and some of the classes are a little too difficult, but I promise you, there is nothing easy about Hamline University. It cost me 15,000.00 and I got a business education like no other.
Simply disagreeing with the way YOU think should not make one a "hater". We are entitled to our opinion. We are not making "inappropriate" comments.

Hamline's Business School has no relationships with businesses, local or otherwise. Hamline wants to be different from the competition and not kick out "cookie cutter business people" [their words, they're proud of it], which might be good, but leaves the recent grad on his/her own.

Traditional business schools have relationships with businesses, companies, corporations, and the students meet with the hiring people and build relationships so that when graduation approaches, they are matched up and basically already hired. At Hamline, we simply graduated and that was it.....not even any career center help. The career center was ONLY for the undergrads.

We're not "Haters" because we have an opinion.
Nathan

Mound, MN

#28 Jul 4, 2013
I studied Engineering at the University of Minnesota for my undergraduate degree. I attended Hamline University's MBA program for graduate School. I highly recommend this program. It provided me with a significant business skill-set, which I did not obtain from my undergraduate program. In addition, this degree has provided a gateway for significant corporate opportunities. I wish the best to you in your future endeavors!
SFD

Minneapolis, MN

#29 Nov 14, 2013
I'm looking into Hamline for MBA, but I'm hearing the opposite of what I thought it would be! hmmmm.

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