Gov. candidates agree health insurance should be more affordable, a...

The three major candidates for governor on Friday offered widely varying prescriptions for providing health care coverage for all Minnesotans. Full Story
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Nota Sheep

Midlothian, TX

#1 Sep 24, 2010
If the headline is indeed true, all of the candidates should push for a repeal of ObamaKare. It is a complete and utter failure, creating more bureaucratic red tape than anything, without covering everybody, but worse yet, causing HUGE increases in the cost of health care.
johngage

Wayzata, MN

#2 Sep 24, 2010
The 10% uninsured rate is often misunderstood. People seem to think that every one of the uninsured cannot afford it. This is not true. Yes, there are some people who cannot afford insurance but that is not everyone. Some simply don't know what MN products are available to them. Some are too "proud" to go on any government plan, while others simply to choose to spend their money elsewhere. The latter is often 25 year male "indestructibles" who can afford insurance but want to spend their money somewhere else.

I would like to suggest to all three candidates that they truly understand who is uninsured before they try to fix it.
Murph

Onalaska, WI

#3 Sep 24, 2010
Emmer's reply might indicate he is hiding his medical history,is my guess.Lunatic asylum would be quite applicable I suppose based on his campaign methods and messages.
AJK47

Menomonie, WI

#4 Sep 24, 2010
Murph...Apparently you wouldn't know a joke if it hit you in the face. His medical history is non of your business. Perhaps your lunacy is clouding your judgment?
Kyle

Minneapolis, MN

#5 Sep 24, 2010
Come on Murph, you don't see us minnesotans bashing your nuts running for office in wisconsin.
Murph wrote:
Emmer's reply might indicate he is hiding his medical history,is my guess.Lunatic asylum would be quite applicable I suppose based on his campaign methods and messages.
TaxTaxTax

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Sep 24, 2010
B. Hussein O. will take care of the uninsured.
Carbon Bigfoot

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Sep 24, 2010
The best way to lower insurance costs in MN is to open up some competition. There are currently only 4 companies allowed to sell health insurance in MN - that sure sounds like a problem to me.
mlars

United States

#8 Sep 24, 2010
Wow, they went way out on a limb here.
Joe Merlot

Saint Paul, MN

#9 Sep 24, 2010
I have the best idea of all.

Let the market work! It's already adjusting itself if they would simply leave it alone and focus on providing hardship services only, it wouldn't be a problem.

The average family plan now includes a 1,000 deductible and 10% co-insurance until a 5,000 out of pocket maximum is reached. This was a natural response to extensive usage of services born out of the $20 co-pay HMO's and provides accountability of usage by users. Guess what happens when that MRI costs you $150 out of pocket, you start to ask the doc if you really need it and what the chances are that they'll find anything.

If they are worried about health care, they need to focus on regulating the health care industry and leaving the insurance end of it alone. Tinkering with the payment system will do very little to change costs. Legislating disclosure of medical options, costs and other information that doctors/hospitals/clinics never share with patients, mandating billing practices and electronic standards, etc.... is where they need to focus.

I'm so sick of the focus on insurance that I could puke. Repeal the obomination that passed last year and focus on hospitals, doctors and clinics practices.

Since: Feb 08

Dubuque, IA

#10 Sep 24, 2010
However, the candidates all disagreed on the topics, mom, flag and apple pie!

Emmer and Horner also disagreed on the Twins playoff pitching rotation . Dayton was present, but could not be reached for comment.
LBJ

San Jose, CA

#11 Sep 24, 2010
And every kid should their own pony.
Johngage

United States

#13 Sep 24, 2010
Carbon Bigfoot wrote:
The best way to lower insurance costs in MN is to open up some competition. There are currently only 4 companies allowed to sell health insurance in MN - that sure sounds like a problem to me.
Actually if you allow more competition that will cause rates to go up. With only 4 plans in MN, that allows them to get greater discounts from the medical providers. If you divvy the pie up more, the less leverage the health plans have in getting discounts from providers. 4 carriers with all the members will have more leverage than 8 carriers with the same amount of members.
brokeanddisguste d

Minneapolis, MN

#14 Sep 24, 2010
Affordable healthcare is exponential. MN leads the way in healthcare - what is to follow? United States world healthcare all leads to MN which results in our own private welfare state until it is expanded world-wide.

Who is going to pay for all this?

SOCIALISM!
Peter

Houston, TX

#15 Sep 24, 2010
Do we have a lack of affordable healthcare or a surplus of people that can't afford things? In truth, it's both. But that means thinking about really obvious things like enforcing immigration. Really, liberals, you think imported high school drop outs from Mexico that wash dishes are buying their own healthcare? No, they're not. Open borders make healthcare worse.
brokeanddisguste d

Minneapolis, MN

#16 Sep 24, 2010
Peter wrote:
Do we have a lack of affordable healthcare or a surplus of people that can't afford things? In truth, it's both. But that means thinking about really obvious things like enforcing immigration. Really, liberals, you think imported high school drop outs from Mexico that wash dishes are buying their own healthcare? No, they're not. Open borders make healthcare worse.
I think Liberals want to enforce their way of thinking and don't want to pay for it. In the end, I think, healthcare is about lifestyle and genetics and nobody gets out alive in the END. It's all about access to a comfort level and what's FAIR.
Freedom Lover

Minneapolis, MN

#17 Sep 24, 2010
brokeanddisgusted wrote:
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I think Liberals want to enforce their way of thinking and don't want to pay for it. In the end, I think, healthcare is about lifestyle and genetics and nobody gets out alive in the END. It's all about access to a comfort level and what's FAIR.
That whole "enforce their way of thinking" think, to me is their ever-greater reach into the family. It used to be grade school, then kindergarten. Now it's all about getting all the three and four year olds into reeducation (por-k) centers to undoo the damage caused by parents who don't subscribe to the nanny state philosophy.
BOB

Rochester, MN

#18 Sep 25, 2010
Insurance COULD lower rates, BUT then they woud have to lowere what they pay out. Simple. The only ways to lower what is paid out is to incrrease co pays/ deductibles or to lower what they pay for services. There is a limit to how much they can cut wha is paid for services (Medicare already pays LESS than the cost of services. Insurance cos are not going to get better rates than Uncle Sam. So how do you cut actual costs of services? Fewer tests, fewer days in hospital, fewer nurses, fewer drugs, fewer visits to ER or office (allowing fewer MDs) etc. Cut the number of hospitals, due less surgery, etc.
Carbon Bigfoot

Minneapolis, MN

#19 Sep 27, 2010
Johngage wrote:
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Actually if you allow more competition that will cause rates to go up. With only 4 plans in MN, that allows them to get greater discounts from the medical providers. If you divvy the pie up more, the less leverage the health plans have in getting discounts from providers. 4 carriers with all the members will have more leverage than 8 carriers with the same amount of members.
You seem to have a great understanding of the law of supply and demand. You should apply for a professorship at the U of MN. If that doesn't work out, you could teach pre-school, since even a first-grader would see through your line of bull.
Porkulus

Monroe, LA

#20 Sep 27, 2010
The Massachusetts Health-Care 'Train Wreck'
The future of ObamaCare is unfolding here: runaway spending, price controls, even limits on care and medical licensing.
President Obama said earlier this year that the health-care bill that Congress passed three months ago is "essentially identical" to the Massachusetts universal coverage plan that then-Gov. Mitt Romney signed into law in 2006. No one but Mr. Romney disagrees.
As events are now unfolding, the Massachusetts plan couldn't be a more damning indictment of ObamaCare. The state's universal health-care prototype is growing more dysfunctional by the day, which is the inevitable result of a health system dominated by politics.
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The deeper problem is that price controls seem to be the only way the political class can salvage a program that was supposed to reduce spending and manifestly has not. Massachusetts now has the highest average premiums in the nation.
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An entitlement sold as a way to reduce costs was bound to fundamentally change the system. The larger question—for Massachusetts, and now for the nation—is whether that was really the plan all along.
"If you're going to do health-care cost containment, it has to be stealth," said Jon Kingsdale, speaking at a conference sponsored by the New Republic magazine last October. "It has to be unsuspected by any of the key players to actually have an effect." Mr. Kingsdale is the former director of the Massachusetts "connector," the beta version of ObamaCare's insurance "exchanges," and is now widely expected to serve as an ObamaCare regulator.

In other words, health reform was a classic bait and switch
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274...

"Mess" is too light a term for the bureaucratic, administrative, and financial hell these clowns intend to visit upon flyover country.
The main point of Obamacare is to bankrupt private insurers. If Massachusetts is any guide, it will work as planned.
TooHotTooTrot

Boise, ID

#21 Sep 27, 2010
Why worry about the rates?

After last Wednesday, no one is selling policies anyway.

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