Our Re- elected sheriff is Firing dep...

Since: Sep 07

United States

#22 Nov 30, 2007
This is no different than when a new President or Governor takes office or is re-elected. A housecleaning is almost always planned by things observed during the process leading up to election.

That is what happens when you are an APPOINTED official. You people need to understand that is the difference between an employee's vs. a political appointee's "rights" to be let go...

1 of the deputies on that list is a friend of mine. I feel badly for him & his situation at this point but he even said that is the nature of law enforcement here in the Commonwealth.

Get over it! If it were ethics, it wouldn't be called politics!!!
Fox Supporter

United States

#23 Nov 30, 2007
broadband4all...

You're exactly right...and it's not just in the Commonwealth, it's the entire US.
Fox supporter

United States

#24 Nov 30, 2007
arearesident wrote:
Nitpicking? What's it called when a deputy is fired because he doesn't outwardly support the sherrif, instead chooses to stay neutral? To have the authority to fire at a whim is one thing but to use it for your own political purposes is another. There is no way on earth the termination of all those officers for not supporting Danny is decent. It may be legal but not right or decent. If they didn't want to be there they would have quit, don't you think? Maybe the thought of serving the pulic was more important than to serve Danny Fox. After all, it's the public they are all supposed to be serving, regardless of who the sherrif is. Again, I understand the "power" of the sherrif, but I think to use it for personal reasons is outside the scope and purpose of the power. I guess I'm wrong. My gosh. Why would anybody want to work for Fox? If you don't nod in agreement with him you get fired, your career is ruined and you have that on your work history for the rest of your life. Merry Christmas. It's bossism like that, that made them hope change I'd suspect. Now the rest malcontents will keep their jobs by cowering, saying yessir chief, anything you want chief, you're right sir. Right on it sir! 100% beside you SIR!
Boy, don't I feel safer already!
For some reason my first post disappeared...so I'll attempt to redo it.
No it's nitpicking over the use of the word loyal. I am 100% loyal to my spouse, as well as 100% respectful. Does this mean we don't disagree, of course not, but we do support each other. I have never worked for an employer that I wasn't 100% loyal to. If the loyalty began to resolve, it was time to go. One's work performance can't help but suffer if the loyalty is not there.

What Fox did is the way of the world when it comes to elected officials. Whether it's the Sheriff, the Governor or the President, when a new individual comes in, it's natural to clean house. How can you run a united department if there are individuals who are not loyal. It's not an issue that they voted for Hawkins. It's an issue of morals, ethics and loyalty. It is not moral or ethical to vehemently work with all their might in an attempt to oust Danny. And in their efforts, making up blatant lies.

Let's reflect...when Danny ran the first time, 2 other people at MCSO ran as well. They obviously didn't win...but did Danny fire them. Nope.

And then there's they question...why didn't these malcontents quit before? Your response is probably because they were in it for the law enforcement. But there are other ways to fulfill the law enforcement aspect without having to work for a man that they don't respect and don't want to work for. But I guess it's easier to be a victim. They need to step up to the plate and take responsibility for their actions. Accountability is a pretty awesome thing. It takes a big person to take credit, positive or negative, for their actions.

Since: Aug 07

Colonial Beach, VA

#25 Nov 30, 2007
Fox Supporter, I work for a very large company with a number of people above me and many more below. My loyalty is to the best interests of the company, not to any individual in authority over me. Being any other way would be disloyal to not only my prefession, but to the very source of my paycheck. Can we compare a privately owned company to a Sheriff's Office? yes, I think it's a fair comparision because the only loyalty in the Sheriff's Office should be to their profession (to uphold the law) and to the source of their paycheck (the people).

Every organization needs a system of checks and balances and having or expecting to have a group of blind yes men is unrealistic and, believe it or not, not a good thing.

Since: Aug 07

Colonial Beach, VA

#26 Nov 30, 2007
broadbandforall, you're right, but keep in mind Sherriff Fox was re-elected so the usual changes that might take place when a new official takes office can't really be applied to this situation.
Fox Supporter

United States

#27 Nov 30, 2007
New Generation wrote:
Fox Supporter, I work for a very large company with a number of people above me and many more below. My loyalty is to the best interests of the company, not to any individual in authority over me. Being any other way would be disloyal to not only my prefession, but to the very source of my paycheck. Can we compare a privately owned company to a Sheriff's Office? yes, I think it's a fair comparision because the only loyalty in the Sheriff's Office should be to their profession (to uphold the law) and to the source of their paycheck (the people).
Every organization needs a system of checks and balances and having or expecting to have a group of blind yes men is unrealistic and, believe it or not, not a good thing.
Are you kidding me when you say that being loyal and respectful automatically means you're a 'yes man'? I any position I have ever held, if ever there was a time when I lost the loyality for my boss or my profession, it was time to move on.

And I use the same comparison to a marriage. My spouse and I are 100% loyal and respectful of each other. Does that mean that we both jump when the other speaks? Or that one of us barks orders to the other? Of course not. THAT is unrealistic.

When you lose loyalty and respect it's impossible to do your job well, as an employee, spouse, whatever...
Rusty Shakleford

Winchester, VA

#28 Nov 30, 2007
9 Deputies fired as of today. Screw Fox and Screw the Mecklenburg Co. Sheriff's Dept. For not this, but for a personal grievance that occurred just today, I say this. They can all go to hell.
Rusty Shakleford

Winchester, VA

#29 Nov 30, 2007
By the way, one of the Deputies he fired had only 2 years left to retirement. If he was good enough to serve for Fox for the past few years then why is he let go now...I'll tell you why, a personal vendetta the likes of which a regular citizen would be arrested for.

Welcome to 1938 Germany!
Rusty Shakleford

Winchester, VA

#30 Nov 30, 2007
PS...I hope everyone of these fired Deputies files either a Grievance or a Lawsuit against the county.

We are living in a country now where the 1st amendment is dead. Where you can get punished for not only your actions but your thoughts as well. I pity our children because the Political Correctness Police are now running the madhouse. It's a sad day in not only the county but America.

Again...welcome to 1938 Germany...except this time it's the Left Wing Fascists that have taken control.
Shoe Booty

Winchester, VA

#31 Nov 30, 2007
I agree with Rusty. I'm almost afraid to post anything on this board now for fear of retribution. How many of you Fox supporters know that his wife is second in command at the Treasurer's office? Probably the only reason she didn't run for the Treasurer's position is because she couldn't be Treasurer if her husband won. So we've got a husband and wife making....say 125K a year combined off a dying county...that makes sense!!!
native living in raleigh

Dillon, SC

#32 Dec 1, 2007
hey bitches im back""" wow the shitstorm is still brewing.this is some great stuff i smell a t.v. movie in the works.i am sure we can get corky that retarted kid to play the part of danny fox.
arearesident

Gloucester, VA

#33 Dec 1, 2007
Fox Supporter, I'll have to give you one thing buddy. You're loyal for sure. Let's all just watch the MCSO and see who gets the next promotion.

To Broadband4all, I agree with you on the house sweeping deal. It is normal when new brooms enter to sweep clean the old. But as New Generation pointed out, some of these deputies have been there Danny Fox was a jailer. 25 years plus for some. The problem was they didn't line up and work the fair boothe for Danny or put Fox for Sherrif signs in their yards. Some did outwardly support Hawkins, off duty, but that is their Constitutional Right. As Uncle Ben said "with great power comes great responsibility. Be careful to use it well." Does getting fired for wanting change or getting fired no not "yezza bossing" sound like using well the "power"? Not to me it doesn't. But I'm just on person.

Since: Aug 07

Urbanna, VA

#34 Dec 1, 2007
Foz supporter, if your boss owns the company then being loyal to the company is one and the same. Last I knew a Sheriff doesn't own the county. The deputies owe their loyalty to the people they are paid to protect.

If they were doing their jobs then not supporting a candidate for re-election is not justification for firing them.If Danny has ill feelings towards them fine, don't buy them a Christmas present, but it's a disservice to the people of the county to conduct the office of Sheriff in that manner and an abuse of power.
Dont think twice

AOL

#35 Dec 2, 2007
Does anyone in Mecklenburg County feel safe? If you are a Hawkins supporter I would like to know. I feel that any one that knows who I voted for will not respond to me as they would to a Fox supporter. That it what I feel is the real crime here. We can't feel like we can count on anyone in the Dept now. What will Fox do to gain the respect of the Dept. back? My feelings are just that mine, what will others feel when they want to move here and see what is going on? Why would business come here if they don't want to "pay" the Dept. off? This needs to be fix nationally so this can't happen to ANYONE again. No ONE person should have this much power in any county. The good sheriff needs to report to someone that oversees this mess.
mike hunt

South Hill, VA

#36 Dec 2, 2007
dear santa instead of bringing me the the new cb radio for my pick-up could you instead give danny fox a set of balls.
fss

Vernon Hill, VA

#37 Dec 2, 2007
Did you honestly believe Hawkins was going to keep eveyone?
jaun perez

South Hill, VA

#38 Dec 2, 2007
viva la fox"""'
nunya business

South Hill, VA

#39 Dec 2, 2007
saw fox at the cc parade, he was all by himself in the mcso truck. i guess nobody wanted to be seen with him,or they were scared that maybe someone may try and pick him off from one of the rooftops.
jack tripper

South Hill, VA

#40 Dec 2, 2007
whats with all the old folks in chase city? looked like they were filming a sequel of the movie cocoon
buck melanoma

South Hill, VA

#41 Dec 2, 2007
you call that a parade it looked more like a death march.the grand marshall didnt even look like they had a pulse.

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